First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List Re: Coolant recovery tank by "ROY D LUMSDEN" <rlumsden@tampabay.rr.com> RE: 350 power tricks? by "tim marcinek" <marcts@ga.prestige.net> new style alternator by "tim marcinek" <marcts@ga.prestige.net> Re: Coolant recovery tank by "Bob Trimpe" <trimpe@fuse.net> Re: new style alternator by "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> Re: Turn signal repair by "R & P" <Ronsoy@bellsouth.net> Re: 350 power tricks? by <geebjen@att.net> Re: Alternators by "Shawn Jeppson" <sfjeppson@earthlink.net> Lower Control Arm by "Dean Larson" <DLarson@IDENTIFIX.com> 67 exhaust by "Jim Miller" <jimdmi@kcdata.com> What's a 67 turn lever with cruise look like?? by <kmorrow@socket.net> Re: What's a 67 turn lever with cruise look like?? by "Geoff Martin" <Geoff@firstgenfirebird.org> Re: 67 exhaust by "Steve" <poncho68sa@hotmail.com> Re: Turn signal repair by "Charles Hazelton" <chuckhazelton@surfree.com>
(back) Subject: Re: Coolant recovery tank From: "ROY D LUMSDEN" <rlumsden@tampabay.rr.com> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 08:51:05 -0500 Guys, I would love to see some pictures of a coolant recovery system that looks stock. If someone has something and can supply information on where to obtain the parts, I love to see them. If you have pictures, you can = forward them to: rlumsden@tampabay.rr.com Thanks, Roy ----- Original Message ----- From: <hugoba@apcom.com> To: <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 1:29 AM Subject: Re: Coolant recovery tank > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > My 64 Olds Vista Cruiser has a plastic bottle that wraps in front of the drivers > side fender that is for the windshield washer fluid. Unfortunately it's cracked > but I'm wondering if this is the bottle that some are seeing as the coolant > recovery bottle. Maybe some dealers installed this as a "local" option. > I'll show it to the guys tomorrow and take some pictures (if I remember = to take > the camera with me). > > Hugo > >
(back) Subject: RE: 350 power tricks? From: "tim marcinek" <marcts@ga.prestige.net> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 10:20:29 -0500 What rear gear ratio are you running? If you are running high gearing (numerically) 3.73 or more, and put a hot cam in it, and performer rpm, 4bbl, headers, 2.5 exhaust, stall converter etc, you may be able to break into the mid 14's with it. I went through all of this but have a 2.56 gear. I put on the performer manifold, performer carb 600 cfm (i really like this), msd ignition, msd distrib, headers, flowmaster 2.5 in kit. It sounds great and drives fine, but all I could muster is 15.8 at about = 90 mph, running through the quarter in second with room to spare. So I had a choice to keep the 350 or change the rear. I kept the rear and am almost done with my new 455. (462 now) I am going to try it with the 2.56 first, and if it does not satisfy me, I will go with a 3.23 gear. I = am hoping to the into the 13's with the new motor. The best part, if you get all of these things, you can use them on a = larger motor if you choose, since pontiacs are all basically the same. (Except maybe the 600 carb, i may be selling mine, i have a holley 750 which was = too big for the 350, only ran 1 week, and swapped for the 600.) The 600 may be gasping for breath with the 455. Anyway if you get the flowmaster, it sounds like you are going like hell even if you are not. I get yelled at more in my firebird (country roads) than i do in my new z28, even going much slower in the firebird. have fun tim
(back) Subject: new style alternator From: "tim marcinek" <marcts@ga.prestige.net> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 10:24:20 -0500 Hi guys, On my new motor i am trying to use the 73 accessories. I have them all as well as the timing cover and accessories from my 68 motor. I want to use the 73 alternator with internal regulator and eliminate the external regulator on mine. I haven't gotten out the wiring diagrams yet, but just wanted to ask if anyone has done this before, and if there are any pitfalls. thanks tim
(back) Subject: Re: Coolant recovery tank From: "Bob Trimpe" <trimpe@fuse.net> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 10:36:35 -0500 I currently have a barf can mounted right behind the battery. I made a "L" bracket that screwed to the battery hold-down, so no extra gholes. The = bottle is really small - came out of a Honda Civic. I'm looking for ways to make = it less obtrusive; Attila's mod looks like a good one. I need to look at = mounting schemes... Bob Trimpe John Wern wrote: > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > Bob - Got any ideas or tricks up your sleeve? I've been thinking about = it. > I went to the local pull - it yard I got some ideas but nothing behind = the > fender. John. > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Trimpe <trimpe@fuse.net> > To: First Generation Firebird-L <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> > Date: Saturday, February 03, 2001 11:28 PM > Subject: Re: Coolant recovery tank > > >First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = >......................................................................... > >Got it fine. I can use the info > > > >Thanks, > >Bob Trimpe > > > >Attila Szabo wrote: > > > >> First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > >> = ......................................................................... > >> did you guys receive the pictures of the coolant tank ok? just > wondering, > >> have had some problems with sending email in the past. Sytems = networking > is > >> FUN. let me know > >> Attila >
(back) Subject: Re: new style alternator From: "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 12:21:17 -0500 Tim I just ran into this. There are a couple ways to go. I went with the internal regulator as we.. and instead of threading wires I bought a new wire harness for the front. (one for the rear too) But just to let you = know They have the harnesses in stock look very good. John. -----Original Message----- From: tim marcinek <marcts@ga.prestige.net> To: Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> Date: Sunday, February 04, 2001 11:06 AM Subject: new style alternator >First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List >......................................................................... >Hi guys, >On my new motor i am trying to use the 73 accessories. I have them all = as >well as the timing cover and accessories from my 68 motor. I want to use >the 73 alternator with internal regulator and eliminate the external >regulator on mine. > >I haven't gotten out the wiring diagrams yet, but just wanted to ask if >anyone has done this before, and if there are any pitfalls. > >thanks >
(back) Subject: Re: Turn signal repair From: "R & P" <Ronsoy@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 13:40:25 -0500 Yeah no lie on the flasher, Don't forget the fuse also....I surprised my self on my newer car my fuse was blown and I'm scratching my head to find the problem, SOMETIMES, we get so close to the problem we forget to step back and look at the SIMPLE first. RonMan
(back) Subject: Re: 350 power tricks? From: <geebjen@att.net> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 13:59:04 -0500 Rod, I think you've gotten some good advice so far.....let me add these two things. 1) You most likely have a 2.56 or maybe 2.78 rear end. Upgrade to a 3.23 or so. 2) If you have an auto trans, get a 2000 or 2400 stall torque converter. These two changes alone made a huge difference on my wife's 350. Steve Lothridge > Subject: 350 power tricks? > From: "Just Rod" <pjozif@hotmail.com> > Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 02:17:38 -0000 > > what is the best way to liven up a 350 pontiac? other than a camshaft! > a swap from 2bbl to 4bbl? > exhaust? > how about the other little tricks like a cold thermostat,open element, = k+n, > carb spacer, high energy wires or a super coil?--- > is there anything else? > ROD > = _________________________________________________________________________
(back) Subject: Re: Alternators From: "Shawn Jeppson" <sfjeppson@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 17:18:50 -0700 I used to work at AutoZone and I almost completely agree with you. They = do sell very cheep rebuilt alternators and starters, but they also have brand new alternators and some good quality rebuilt starters in which the only thing reused is the casing. They use updated technology in these too. I saw = the cheep junk come back all the time, but the better parts work really well. = I have run them with no problem. And if there is someday a problem they = have a lifetime warranty, a good deal for people like us who plan on holding onto = our cars for many years. Shawn 67 coupe scott wrote: > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > Mark, I work at a shop where we change alternators and starters and such = as > an everyday thing. I understand that Kragen is alot like our Autozone, = and > let me tell you I would never, ever, buy an electrical part from them. > Instead I buy suspension parts or nuts and bolts from them but for > electrical parts I always go with a better parts store. I recommend = NAPA. We > have customers who sometimes insist on bringing their own parts. One day = a > guy brought me a starter for his 83 T/A. The starter came from Autozone, > well anyway I ended up changing out 7 starters from them before I said = screw > it and I went and bought one from NAPA myself, and end of problem. Then = ones > from Autozone never even cranked it over a little. So I would have saved > about 6 hours of labor if I had gotten one from a good store in the = first > place. Anyway I would take the alternator off and take it to the store = have > em check it out. If it is bad you might try another but sometimes the = extra > 10 or 20 dollars you save just isn't worth all the work. > > > I'm interested in hearing about any experiences people have had with > > alternators.
(back) Subject: Lower Control Arm From: "Dean Larson" <DLarson@IDENTIFIX.com> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 16:23:44 -0600 All, I am looking for a right side lower control arm for my '69 coupe. Anyone have one they wish to part with, or know where I can get one from. I = have the bushings and balljoint for it. Does anyone have a list of boneyards they have had luck with? Thanks, Dean Larson '69 Coupe
(back) Subject: 67 exhaust From: "Jim Miller" <jimdmi@kcdata.com> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 17:56:33 -0600 I 'm getting ready to install an exhaust on my 67 convertable. My problem is that there was nothing on it when I bought the car so I have no idea = what the system looks like. I would like to install a system that is close to original. I noticed in some of the aftermarket catalogs that most of the systems they offer will not work on convertables. Does anyone have a = photo or diagram that will show me what the exhaust looks like? Anyone have a suggestion on where I can buy a complete exhaust? What is the difference between a coupe and convertable axhaust? Jim 67convert.
(back) Subject: What's a 67 turn lever with cruise look like?? From: <kmorrow@socket.net> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 01:24:21 GMT Anyone have a 67 with cruise control. Want to know what the orignal turn = lever knob looked like for a 67 with cruise. I have seen several different ones = all claiming to be for 67 birds. The 67 parts book lists a part number that = was superceded in the 72 master parts catalog to fit both 67 and 68. I have = seen one with a chrome knob shaped just like the non cruise ones with the = plastic color keyed end(larger tip with horizontal lines word cruise inset in = knob)and I have seen some of the newer part numbered ones and replacements that = have a smooth tapered black plastic end with no lines and white silkscreened = "cruise" on the black tip. I know any will fit but don't want to pay a premium for = a supposed correct one and find out it is a replacement style or wrong one. Thanks, Kane Morrow kmorrow@socket.net
(back) Subject: Re: What's a 67 turn lever with cruise look like?? From: "Geoff Martin" <Geoff@firstgenfirebird.org> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 21:08:21 -0500 I show the smooth black with white "<-Cruise" etched into it on a '68 Pontiac. This is from a '68 Pontiac sales manual but it looks to be from a big cruiser. Should be the same for the Firebird. Photo at: http://FirstGenFirebird.org/firebird/graphics/accessories/441.jpg Found using the '68 Options and Accessories web page: http://FirstGenFirebird.org/firebird/1968/options.html Geoff '68 Mayfair Maize Firebird 350 Convertible <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/show/closeup.mv?CarID=3D46> <Geoff@FirstGenFirebird.org> ps - Would be interested in borrowing someone's '67 sales manual to scan the graphics. Also would settle for emailed scanned photos but I like tweaking the images before they go digital. >Anyone have a 67 with cruise control. Want to know what the orignal turn >lever >knob looked like for a 67 with cruise. I have seen several different ones = >all >claiming to be for 67 birds. The 67 parts book lists a part number that = was >superceded in the 72 master parts catalog to fit both 67 and 68. I have = seen >one with a chrome knob shaped just like the non cruise ones with the = plastic >color keyed end(larger tip with horizontal lines word cruise inset in >knob)and >I have seen some of the newer part numbered ones and replacements that >have a >smooth tapered black plastic end with no lines and white silkscreened >"cruise" >on the black tip. I know any will fit but don't want to pay a premium for = a >supposed correct one and find out it is a replacement style or wrong one.
(back) Subject: Re: 67 exhaust From: "Steve" <poncho68sa@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:36:26 -0500 http://www.gardnerexhaust.com/firebird.html Thanks- Steve.... poncho68sa@hotmail.com 68 Firebird Restoration http://lightning.locl.net/homes/sapple/index.html Pontiac Firebird Links http://communities.msn.com/PontiacFirebirdLinks/home.htm '68 Firebird Photos http://communities.msn.com/68FirebirdRestoration/home.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Miller <jimdmi@kcdata.com> To: First Generation Firebird-L <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 6:56 PM Subject: 67 exhaust > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > I 'm getting ready to install an exhaust on my 67 convertable. My = problem > is that there was nothing on it when I bought the car so I have no idea what > the system looks like. I would like to install a system that is close = to > original. I noticed in some of the aftermarket catalogs that most of = the > systems they offer will not work on convertables. Does anyone have a photo > or diagram that will show me what the exhaust looks like? Anyone have a > suggestion on where I can buy a complete exhaust? What is the = difference > between a coupe and convertable axhaust? Jim 67convert. >
(back) Subject: Re: Turn signal repair From: "Charles Hazelton" <chuckhazelton@surfree.com> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 20:31:09 -0800 Thanks again to all who walked me thru the obvious and the obscure possibilities. I used every tip and it still seems to come down to the t/s switch. Got one on order--let you know if that fixes it. Sure hope it = does. Otherwise I'll have to replace the entire car, one piece at a time :o{ ----- Original Message ----- From: "R & P" <Ronsoy@bellsouth.net> To: "First Generation Firebird-L" <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 10:40 AM Subject: Re: Turn signal repair > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > Yeah no lie on the flasher, Don't forget the fuse also....I surprised my > self on my newer car my fuse was blown and I'm scratching my head to = find > the problem, SOMETIMES, we get so close to the problem we forget to step > back and look at the SIMPLE first. > > > RonMan