First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List Re: Conv. top by <jhammond@wi.rr.com> Fuel additives by "Dan Lawrence" <danl@fdn.com> Re: Carb rebuild by "matt schmid" <schmidmj@hotmail.com> RE: peicing an engine together by "matt schmid" <schmidmj@hotmail.com> Pitman arm & steering isolator by "GTOken" <GTOken@ipa.net> RE: peicing an engine together by "Slobird" <marcts@ga.prestige.net> overdrive trans by "Slobird" <marcts@ga.prestige.net> Remote Mirrors by "DC" <saleen1@knight-hub.com> Re: Remote Mirrors by <JGeigel@aol.com> Re: COMPRESSION VS FLOW by "Andrew & Kate Panek" <panek@inil.com> Rear 1/4 Armrest Ashtray by "Andy" <fbird68@ix.netcom.com> Re: Rear 1/4 Armrest Ashtray by <Jimc2002@aol.com> Re: Rear 1/4 Armrest Ashtray by <Jimc2002@aol.com> Re: Rear 1/4 Armrest Ashtray by <hugoba@apcom.com> Re: Rear 1/4 Armrest Ashtray by <JGeigel@aol.com> RE: peicing an engine together by "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> Re: Pitman arm & steering isolator by "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> 2nd gen disc rear end swap question. by "Geoff Swavley" <geoffs@radx.net> Re: Turbo TA Info/jUnusual Part by "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> Rear Main Seal by "Keith Donmoyer" <kadonny@hotmail.com>
(back) Subject: Re: Conv. top From: <jhammond@wi.rr.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 09:11:54 -0500 I have some pictures on my web site that might help you. If you need more, let me know. http://www.1967firebird.com/restore.html Jim Hammond 1967 326 Firebird Milwaukee On 31 Mar 01, at 19:15, Dereck Kowalski wrote: > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > Does anyone have a picture of the power top cylinders to see how they = mount? > > Thanks, > Dereck >
(back) Subject: Fuel additives From: "Dan Lawrence" <danl@fdn.com> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 10:43:14 -0400 Several weeks ago I asked the group what to do about octane and what the 110 octane fuel was. After the aircraft fuel was explained it seemed to be a last resort for me because of all the trouble obtaining, transporting, etc. Curt left this link for a possible solution. http://www.wauknet.com/douthitt/pumpgas.htm I tried adding the 10% tolulene and couldn't believe the performance improvement. Actually, I had about 8% added in. I got a slight ping occasionally at full temp and when I should have down shifted. I got the gallon of tolulene from Ace Hardware for $8.50. This seems much easier to obtain and the results were fantastic. Thanks a million for the help. I would have never known about the info on the web. Dan 68/coupe/428
(back) Subject: Re: Carb rebuild From: "matt schmid" <schmidmj@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 16:54:01 Thanks, that helps. Working on it now. Matt > > I DON'T like to mail order stuff like that. I used to get Q-jet kits = from >Auto Zone a friend from school worked there, No super discounts or = anything >but they were $15-18 they were made by Standard and were very good. >Last week I went there, tried to get one for a 73 Pontiac my friend is = know >in collage so had no luck. Called a local auto parts store with the carb >ID# >at 9.00 am they had it by 1. picked it up on my way home from work the = same >day. It's in a Borg warner box but is the exactly the same, cost $18 with >tax. > Get a new fuel filter, not included with kits. Don't use the bronze >ones >get a paper or get a new good ACdelco inline filter and leave the factory = >one >in the fitting out. >If it's a Q-jet or anybody else that has a Q-jet get Rochester = carburetors >by >Doug Roe. > (off the cover) > How to install & tune for street or strip. > Basic principles of operation, air & fuel requirements. > repairs & adjustments.plus toips on choosing manifolds & >fuel-supply >sytems > Metering rod/hanger lists and charts >I highly recomend >John Costello > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: RE: peicing an engine together From: "matt schmid" <schmidmj@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 18:50:40 Thanks, my car doesn't have a brake booster, but there is a line coming = off the big fitting in the back with a metal fitting that has a check = valve,any idea. The hose says, "fuel vapor hose" Matt >From: "Slobird" <marcts@ga.prestige.net> >Reply-To: "First Generation Firebird-L"<Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> >To: "'First Generation Firebird-L'" <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> >Subject: RE: peicing an engine together>Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:42:25 >-0500> >First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List >.........................................................................>= Matt, >>All you need is one line going from the carb to the distributor >>advance,>THe >big fitting on the back goes to the power brake booster, and one linegoes >to the transmission modulator which controls your shifts. That's all you >need, just plug any others.> >good luck, hope you have close to all of the pieces!>>tim>> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: Pitman arm & steering isolator From: "GTOken" <GTOken@ipa.net> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 16:06:40 -0500 Looks like Im going to need a pitman arm & steering column isolator. Will I be able to get these locally or will I have to mail order? Whats the best price on these items? Ken F. '68 Firebird
(back) Subject: RE: peicing an engine together From: "Slobird" <marcts@ga.prestige.net> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:40:00 -0400 The only think I can think of would be the pcfv if it has a check valve. You can connect the pcv to the carb or plug the big fitting. My pcv goes from the valley pan to the intake. First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List .......................................................................... Thanks, my car doesn't have a brake booster, but there is a line coming = off the big fitting in the back with a metal fitting that has a check = valve,any idea. The hose says, "fuel vapor hose" Matt
(back) Subject: overdrive trans From: "Slobird" <marcts@ga.prestige.net> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:41:01 -0400 Did someone on the list have a 200r4 or an adapted 700r4 for sale? I may = be interested. Please drop me a line and tell me about how much $$. thanks Tim
(back) Subject: Remote Mirrors From: "DC" <saleen1@knight-hub.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 19:03:02 -0400 I have a 69 convertible and the car is suppose to have a remote side = mirror ....does anyone know where I can get one of these. Also after doing some research I have found that the black standard interior that I currently = have is suppose to be red custom deluxe...can I have the current standard seats recovered with the custom deluxe covers? Also how much work is involved changing the standard door panels to deluxe..someone told me that I had to change the window registers and the door handle I am suppose to have an electric deck lid release button but the idiot who had the car before me must have pulled it out with the red interior...any help would be appreciative... Dennis
(back) Subject: Re: Remote Mirrors From: <JGeigel@aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 20:39:24 EDT Dennis, On Ebay you will find an NOS 69 remote mirror. Current bid is $200. I've = bought from the seller before (Arcadiadoug). Very reliable and I would highly recommend buying it from him if you can afford it. As to the seats, if you are looking for red comfortweave seat covers, = good luck... I bought a set recently for my 68 and they were almost impossible = to find as it is no longer made. I got lucky and found a set at the Paddock. = They were made by PUI. As for the doorpanels, you will need to change out the door opening = hardware, but it's pretty easy. Joe Geigel In a message dated 4/1/2001 5:05:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, saleen1@knight-hub.com writes: I have a 69 convertible and the car is suppose to have a remote side = mirror ....does anyone know where I can get one of these. Also after doing some research I have found that the black standard interior that I currently = have is suppose to be red custom deluxe...can I have the current standard seats recovered with the custom deluxe covers? Also how much work is involved changing the standard door panels to deluxe..someone told me that I had to change the window registers and the door handle I am suppose to have an electric deck lid release button but the idiot who had the car before me must have pulled it out with the red interior...any help would be appreciative...
(back) Subject: Re: COMPRESSION VS FLOW From: "Andrew & Kate Panek" <panek@inil.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 19:49:14 -0500 THANKS TIM... LOOKING FOR ALL ADVICE FOR BUILDING THIS CAR RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING AS EVERY DOLLAR COUNTS. ANDREW 69 CONV
(back) Subject: Rear 1/4 Armrest Ashtray From: "Andy" <fbird68@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:04:28 -0800 I recently bought the rear armrest ashtrays from Ames. Mine are in decent shape, but the chrome has rubbed off one spot on one of the lids. I didn't realize until I went to replace them that the ones from Ames have smooth lids, and mine have widely spaced grooves. The ones from Ames are "Genuine GM", but now I'm thinking they may be multipurpose GM replacements. Anyone know which style is correct for first-gen Firebirds? Thanks, Andy
(back) Subject: Re: Rear 1/4 Armrest Ashtray From: <Jimc2002@aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 22:55:19 EDT Andy, My 68 (delux interior) has three groves evenly spaced on what I know are = the originals. Jim
(back) Subject: Re: Rear 1/4 Armrest Ashtray From: <Jimc2002@aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 22:59:30 EDT Andy, One more thing - I checked the Year One catalog. Their ashtray has a = note, " Note: 1967-68 models were equipped with rear ashtrays with ribbed = covers. The new part will fit correctly but does not have the ridges on the = covers." Jim 68 400HO Convert
(back) Subject: Re: Rear 1/4 Armrest Ashtray From: <hugoba@apcom.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 21:13:23 -0700 (PDT) I just looked at the 69 vert ant they have 3 grooves on the top making 4 = bands if that makes any sence. Hugo > From Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com Sun Apr 1 19:27:31 2001 > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:04:28 -0800 > From: Andy <fbird68@ix.netcom.com> > X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: First Generation Firebird List <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> > Subject: Rear 1/4 Armrest Ashtray > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > I recently bought the rear armrest ashtrays from Ames. Mine are in > decent shape, but the chrome has rubbed off one spot on one of the lids. > I didn't realize until I went to replace them that the ones from Ames > have smooth lids, and mine have widely spaced grooves. The ones from > Ames are "Genuine GM", but now I'm thinking they may be multipurpose GM > replacements. Anyone know which style is correct for first-gen > Firebirds? > > Thanks, > Andy >
(back) Subject: Re: Rear 1/4 Armrest Ashtray From: <JGeigel@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 00:12:49 EDT Andy, The correct ashtrays are your originals with the grooves. They are not = made yet in repros. Only the generic ones you bought are available. Joe Geigel
(back) Subject: RE: peicing an engine together From: "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 22:44:34 -0700 Another guess: the carb or car once had a booster I would use fuel/PCV hose for this application because it is resistant to underhood chemicals and not prone to collapse. PCV is seldom from the back. ..o2 Rowan >From: "Slobird" <marcts@ga.prestige.net> >The only think I can think of would be the pcfv if it has a check valve. >You can connect the pcv to the carb or plug the big fitting. My pcv goes >from the valley pan to the intake. > > > >First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List >......................................................................... >Thanks, my car doesn't have a brake booster, but there is a line coming = off >the big fitting in the back with a metal fitting that has a check = valve,any >idea. The hose says, "fuel vapor hose" >Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: Re: Pitman arm & steering isolator From: "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 23:03:47 -0700 Ken, The rag joint is a commonly available part. My local stores wanted $160 or so to order the pitman arm from rare parts. = I mail ordered from Classic industries, and got it four days later I think = $130 with shiping. I think they got it from ...rare parts. I have heard they can be found cheaper. Rowan >From: GTOken <GTOken@ipa.net> >Looks like Im going to need a pitman arm & steering column isolator. >Will I be able to get these locally or will I have to mail order? Whats >the best price on these items? > >Ken F. >'68 Firebird _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: 2nd gen disc rear end swap question. From: "Geoff Swavley" <geoffs@radx.net> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 16:52:52 +1000 Hi all, My '68 has been off the raod for 14 months now ..... just to swap a 2nd gen rearend under the car ..... and now I'm getting angry! It took one company 6 months to move the disk brakes over from a 2nd gen rear to another 2nd gen rear, and it has taken 4 months for two 15" rally II wheels to be procurred and chromed so as to fit over the calipers (basically I had to upgrade my 14" wheels). My question is this. The mechanic can't get one caliper to bleed properly. I went over and had a look and the rear end has one disc caliper up and one disc caliper down .... I could have sworn that when I gave the diff place the rear end it had both disc brake calipers up top. Does anyone have the URL to a site where I can eyeball a 2nd gen disc brake rear for confirmation ... or better yet ... can anyone confirm that this is how a 2nd gen disc rear is? If so .... all hell is about to break loose at the diff place .... either that or .... is it possible to mount a caliper around the wrong way?? I've had it up to here at the moment ..... thanks geoffs :-)
(back) Subject: Re: Turbo TA Info/jUnusual Part From: "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 23:58:02 -0700 My understanding is that most carbs are unhappy with the boost pressure downstream of the turbo. My thought would be to start with 8 or 8.5:1 Cr and use an electronic brainbox for the ignition to ward off the detonation. In My opinion(I'm = no expert)a system with a knock sensor will outperform a preprogrammed retard = switch. All OEM turbo motors use better head bolts. a 'must see' project; http://www.sdsefi.com/features/apr00stool.htm and the place he got the controler: http://www.sdsefi.com/index.html Rowan >From: PStonebrak@aol.com >The thing that Majestic pointed out was the fact that the carb set on top = >of >a plenum that recieved the boost. The fuel was also drafted for the turbo = >at >that point. I am not familiar with turbos so my feedback is very limited. = >But >I think normally the turbo boosts air thru the top of the carb. I also >talked >to someone that used an aftermarket turbo on a 455. It got blown to = pieces. >Main webbing couldn't handle it. Aftermarket main caps and machine work = can >get pricey. 350s are cheap and a couple of mine are sitting around = waiting >for a new home. A lot easier to come by than a 455. Pete > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: Rear Main Seal From: "Keith Donmoyer" <kadonny@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 07:30:38 -0400 Larry, I did the same thing...ended up installing the rope seal. If I remember right, the Ford seal is still not exactly the right diameter but the = closest one out there for the 350. Keith 68 H.O. Subject: Re: rear main seal question From: "larry diede" <ldiede@bangkok.com> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:44:08 -0700 The Caddy seal will only work on the large diameter journals of the 455. = I know this first hand, as I purchased the Caddy seal and tried to install it in = my 350. It is too large. The small 350 and 400 engines use a 2 piece seal from a Ford 460 engine I = am told. You will need to verify this yourself. After finding out I could = not use the Caddy seal, I used the rope seal and installed it as per instructions from Jim Hand. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com