First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List Re: Starter shims? by "Frank Zeller" <fzeller@tri-austin.com> Re: Updated Project by "Niklas Ridell" <vcc2.nridell@memo.volvo.se> 2 Questions. Cooling problem & Tach Hook-up to HEI by "Mike In Michigan" <rockster37@hotmail.com> BOP Show - Scottsdale AZ 4/22/01! by "bird@mail.javanet.com" <bird@mail.javanet.com> Re: Updated Project by "Frank Zeller" <fzeller@tri-austin.com> Re: Admin Big Server Crash by "Keith Donmoyer" <kadonny@hotmail.com> New Addition by "Keith Donmoyer" <kadonny@hotmail.com> Re: Chicago area get together by "Lee" <pyre400@yahoo.com> Re: Ram Air 101 by <David_S_Smith@amat.com> Re: Chicago area get together by <jrotman@rms.moore.com> updated photos by "matt schmid" <schmidmj@hotmail.com> Re: Ram Air 101 by <hugoba@apcom.com>
(back) Subject: Re: Starter shims? From: "Frank Zeller" <fzeller@tri-austin.com> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 07:55:02 -0500 After you put the new starter in, disconnect the coil wire and turn the = motor over. Lessen for a periodic reductions in turn over speed. If it = sounds constant then your ok. If the motor speeds up and slows down you = need to add a shim. >>> vcc2.nridell@memo.volvo.se 04/09/01 06:40AM >>> First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List .......................................................................... When I mount a new starter on a Pontiac engine do I need to shim it like the chevy guys do? If so, how is the procedure? /Niklas
(back) Subject: Re: Updated Project From: "Niklas Ridell" <vcc2.nridell@memo.volvo.se> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 15:32:53 +0200 Looking great Dereck! If I had your welding skills and courage I would consider putting a double joint rear end from a Corvette or a Jaguar under that Bird. Has anyone seen this modification on a first gen. bird? /Niklas dakowals@mtu.edu wrote: > > I finally got a chance to put some new photos up on the 67 restoration = site. > Check it out and let me know what you think. > > Dereck > http://stuweb.ee.mtu.edu/~dakowals/ >
(back) Subject: 2 Questions. Cooling problem & Tach Hook-up to HEI From: "Mike In Michigan" <rockster37@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 09:41:56 -0400 Here is something a little different for everyone, my car heats up as you drive over 50mph, but it can idle all day long in over 100=B0 heat and = stay cool as a cucumber, why is that? Also, how hard is it to hook up a hood tach to HEI ingnition, any help me? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: BOP Show - Scottsdale AZ 4/22/01! From: "bird@mail.javanet.com" <bird@mail.javanet.com> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:17:18 -0400 I am going to be in Phoenix AZ visiting in-laws over the weekend of = 4/21-22. Since it's an in-law visit, the more car shows I can find the = saner I'll remain. In addition to the Scottsdale Pavillions cruise night on Saturday night, I = learned that the annual BOP show put on by the Desert Renegades Pontiac = Club will be taking place Sunday 4/22. It too will be at the Scottsdale = Pavillions. I went to it last year, it was an excellent show with great = cars and great goodies. Though it's too far to drive either my 67 or my 92 from Maine to Arizona = just for the weekend, I plan to attend as a spectator. Last year I think I = saw maybe one first gen firebird, and it was a project car. How = disappointing! Actually the two nicest cars I saw last year were a = gold/gold 65 GTO 389 tri-power post coupe and a 62 Olds Starfire = convertible. Anyway, anyone from the list live nearby to Scottsdale and planning to = attend? If so, email me off-list at bird@javanet.com and let me know so I = can come find you and say hello! Dan Kagan bird@javanet.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ .
(back) Subject: Re: Updated Project From: "Frank Zeller" <fzeller@tri-austin.com> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 09:47:04 -0500 I've heard of a place on the west coast the sell a kit. >>> vcc2.nridell@memo.volvo.se 04/09/01 08:32AM >>> First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List .......................................................................... Looking great Dereck! If I had your welding skills and courage I would consider putting a double joint rear end from a Corvette or a Jaguar under that Bird. Has anyone seen this modification on a first gen. bird? /Niklas dakowals@mtu.edu wrote: > > I finally got a chance to put some new photos up on the 67 restoration = site. > Check it out and let me know what you think. > > Dereck > http://stuweb.ee.mtu.edu/~dakowals/ >
(back) Subject: Re: Admin Big Server Crash From: "Keith Donmoyer" <kadonny@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:52:08 -0400 Geoff, you NEVER NEED TO APOLIGIZE. We all know what you do and how much time you put in. Everyone must take it in stride and realize that you = (and all of us)do it for the love of the cars. If they don't, then we don't = need them on the list. P.S. If anyone wants to help Geoff with the money thing, but stuff at the Firebird Store!!!! Keith 68 H.O. Subject: Re: Re : ADMN: Big Server Crash From: "Geoff Martin" <Geoff@firstgenfirebird.org> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 00:02:11 -0400 Again, thanks everyone for your encouragement! Has been a good passion from the beginning. Since finances (way too much college) prohibit me from getting my Firebird back on the road at this time, this is the next best thing. One day all will be fine and I will have her back on the road. Once Vicki gets a new car and a few house repairs, I think I should be able to convince her it is a good thing to get the hobby car back on the road. Received encouragement from the list since a few of you have been working on your Firebirds for "several" more years than I have. Geoff '68 Mayfair Maize Firebird 350 Convertible _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: New Addition From: "Keith Donmoyer" <kadonny@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:55:23 -0400 Chris, CONGRATULATIONS!!!! I am sure all will turn out fine. Keith 68 H.O. Subject: New addition From: "Chris Porter" <fxstsb@qwest.net> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 08:38:42 -0700 Hey all, been away for a week now. My wife went into labor in the middle of her baby shower last Saturday. She was in ICU until this past Wednesday. At 10:45 AM, she gave birth to our 1st child, Chase Edward. He will spend another 2 month's in the hospital, before we can take him home. He's now in ICU, but so far ( finger's and toes crossed ) he's holding his own. Mom is well, she came home last night. I'm starting to get REAL excited about being a dad, and someday sharing the Bird and the other Muscle Cars we have with him. Chris `68 350 H.O. Drop-top _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: Re: Chicago area get together From: "Lee" <pyre400@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:24:30 -0700 (PDT) I should be on the road by the middle of the month. I just finished putting in my springs, control arms, and tie rods. I have to get into the shop for an alignment, and to weld up the exhaust, and then I have to jet the carb and adjust the valves and I'm driving. I did notice that I have a nasty leak on my (7 turn) steering box so I might replace that with a 4 turn, but it looks like a nasty job. I live about 20 min from the border of Indiana, and I know a few folks on the list live somewhat near Chicago proper. Let me know whats happening Lee __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
(back) Subject: Re: Ram Air 101 From: <David_S_Smith@amat.com> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:25:10 -0500 The motorcycles use the high pressure area in the front to force feeding = more air into the engine at high speeds. The greater the pressure, the more O2 = the engine gets. Do the drag racers go faster in Denver or Houston? If I were going to do this to a 68 Firebird, I would remove the high beams = and then duct the air from that area to the air filter assembly with large = aluminium tubing (like maybe from a clothes dryer). I imagine that you would have to cut holes in the core support for the = tubing. You would also have to build a air filter assembly that accepts the 2 = large hoses. But then again, you could always remove the whole assembly pretty = easily also. Dave
(back) Subject: Re: Chicago area get together From: <jrotman@rms.moore.com> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:29:14 -0500 Pete, there is a huge 2 day car show and parts swap in Jefferson, WI = about halfway between Milwaukee, WI and Madison, about an 1 1/2 hours from my house in = the Northern burbs of Chicago on the 28th and 29th of April ( I think any = way) if you are interested in going. Lowel, is a ways away of course but if you need = anything, you'll likely find it at Jefferson. Joe Rotman 1968 Firebird 350
(back) Subject: updated photos From: "matt schmid" <schmidmj@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 17:28:26 I got a few more pictures up on the web of what my car looked like under = the hood when I first bought it. Here's the link http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=3D1549442 I know, I know it's a small garage, but it's all I've got for now. Matt 68 350 coupe _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: Re: Ram Air 101 From: <hugoba@apcom.com> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:40:18 -0700 (PDT) If you look in the back of most car wrenching magazines you will see and = ad for an air cleaner with two snorkels and some ducting to do precisely = this, no fabbing needed (unless you want to). Hugo > From Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com Mon Apr 9 09:51:24 2001 > From: David_S_Smith@amat.com > X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMAT > To: "First Generation Firebird-L" <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> > cc: x1r1@hotmail.com > Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:25:10 -0500 > Subject: Re: Ram Air 101 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Disposition: inline > > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > The motorcycles use the high pressure area in the front to force feeding = more > air into the engine at high speeds. The greater the pressure, the more = O2 the > engine gets. Do the drag racers go faster in Denver or Houston? > > If I were going to do this to a 68 Firebird, I would remove the high = beams and > then duct the air from that area to the air filter assembly with large = aluminium > tubing (like maybe from a clothes dryer). > > I imagine that you would have to cut holes in the core support for the = tubing. > You would also have to build a air filter assembly that accepts the 2 = large > hoses. But then again, you could always remove the whole assembly = pretty easily > also. > > Dave > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: > From: "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> > Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 23:50:31 -0700 > > Bikes...Great idea! I have new browsing enhancement as we got DSL > service(after a year of bitter battling)today. Only problem is DSL = seems to > disconnect if the phone is used or called. > Sticking my hand out the window at 60, it feels like it would at least > compensate for restrictive/bent ducting > > highway 17 is a 'special enforcement zone' > Maybe midnight drags at Dolan road or 4Mile beach. > > "saltydog" <saltyd@home.com> wrote: > Just out of curiosity on what others have to say, I believe we have > discussed this before and actually you can get more air from the back of = the > hood near the windshield because of a low pressure in this area and that > right out on the front of the hood is a high pressure area. Does anyone > remember something about that? I definately wouldn't argue with the > statement that it looks better out there on the front. hehehe. > > . That is why the Ram Air setup on the Trans Ams is much better than = the > ram air hood on the SS. On the SS the air has to turn around and come = back > toward the front of the car to enter the maf, whereas on the TA it gets > rammed right up the snout (argueably looks better also). > > Yes...Mine will be a nose breather from behind the grille. If I = get a > 400 hood, the ram air ports will handily blow cool ir across the TPI > runners(isnt that cool) > > Although it is called Ram Air, the factor is cold air induction. Under = hood > air is hotter than outside of the hood. Pete > > This too will be in my favor > And thanks Jason for the description /results of your TA. > A friend of mine who has raced a few TPI 'Vettes tells me the mod that = made > the biggest differene for him was the 'airfoil' between the bores of the > throttle body. I guess smooth flow is the key. > Rowan > > >From: David_S_Smith@amat.com > > >Rowan, > > > >Lots of the latest sport bikes use the "ram air" to force more air = through > >the > >carburator. From what I have read, the effect is minimal until the > >motorcycle > >gets up well over 100mph. > > > >The way they prevent 'upsetting the carb' is by venting the carb to the > >intake > >track so that the float boal sees the same pressure as the intake = track. > >If the > >float boal is not vented to the same pressure as the intake track, = then > >the > >fuel would be pressurized out of the float boal. > > > >They also jet the carb richer on the high end so that it can use the = extra > >air. > >Unfortunately, the engine runs rich at full throttle when at lower road > >speeds. > > > >I remember reading about ram air in one of my issues of Roadracing = World > >(motorcycle related), so maybe you can find something in their = archives. > >http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/index.html > > > >Even if you don't find anything in the Roadracing World site, I would = still > >look > >through other motorcycle sites because the ram air is so common on = modern > >sport > >bikes. > > > > > >So, just how fast do you plan on taking that Hwy 17 pass? > > > >Dave > > >From: "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> > > >Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:34:28 -0800 > > > > > > In installing my EFI motor, I have a great deal of freedom of = design > > >for the air intake system. > > >The only rule is it must come from the front. > > >I know my engine will respond best to cold forced air. > > >A 5lb. supercharger can be installed with nothing but a fuel pump = change. > > >From this, I assume the ECM will deal with any changes I make, but if = not > >I > > >do have a bro who can reprogram my chip. > > > > > > > > >It seems to me that a carb might be upset by too much pressure added, > > >especialy as it would be relatively minor on the street, but a lot at = say > > >100mph. > > > > > >My system has a MAF sensor that measures the actual amount of air = that > > >enters the engine, and fuel is adjusted based on that. > > > What I am looking for is information on sizing my ram air = snorkel. > > >Do I just go as big as I can (the entire grille opening becomes a = giant > > >scoop while the radiator is fed by the chin breathing kit from the = donor > > >car), or is there some practial limitation? > > >any input, links, or formulae would be welcome. > > >Thanks, > > > Rowan *68 > > > >