First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List Music/Song that defines the gen 1 'birds by "Duane Bender" <dbender@dotcomify.com> Multi Leaf Springs by "Greg Camaro" <myhotrs@hotmail.com> Re: Someone else but me from Sweden?? by "Niklas Ridell" <vcc2.nridell@memo.volvo.se> Safety Mandated Items by "Keith Donmoyer" <kadonny@hotmail.com> Re: Music/Song that defines the gen 1 'birds by <jrotman@rms.moore.com> Summer song by "Chris Porter" <fxstsb@qwest.net> Re: Got it running but... by "matt schmid" <schmidmj@hotmail.com> Re: Music/Song that defines the gen 1 'birds by "Rich Durham" <bull@ccomm.com> Re: Music/Song that defines the gen 1 'birds by "matt schmid" <schmidmj@hotmail.com> RE: Music/Song that defines the gen 1 'birds by "Trimpe, Bob" <TrimpeB@rajones.com> 8.5 to 8.2? by "lws" <lws@nextek.net> Re: Music/Song that defines the gen 1 'birds by "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> Re: Got it running but... by "marcts" <marcts@ga.prestige.net> RE: Music/Song that defines the gen 1 'birds by "Erich Wagner" <ewagner@advancepac.com> Re: List Server(oops): Re: Safety mandated items by "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> Re: 8.5 to 8.2? by "Frank Zeller" <fzeller@tri-austin.com>
(back) Subject: Music/Song that defines the gen 1 'birds From: "Duane Bender" <dbender@dotcomify.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:23:28 -0400 Hello, Summer is almost upon us, and in some parts of the continent we are starting to see the sun for the first time in months. Covers are coming off and V8's are firing - time for cruisin'.... SO ---- I'm looking for opinions on the "song, artist or other music that defines the gen 1 'birds" -- you know, the song that revs up YOUR engine while you're spending time with your precious baby bird. Let me know what you think! Thanks & cheers, -Duane Bender '68 V8 Coupe
(back) Subject: Multi Leaf Springs From: "Greg Camaro" <myhotrs@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:29:34 -0700 Hey all, I am shopping for new multi-leaf springs for my 68 coupe. Corvette Brakes = has a carbon? composite spring (very steep $$). I have also seen various lowered and high performance springs. What have you guys used and what would you recommend? The car will be street driven only, but I want it to handle. Thanks, Greg Z _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: Re: Someone else but me from Sweden?? From: "Niklas Ridell" <vcc2.nridell@memo.volvo.se> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:31:12 +0200 Hej Roger & v=E4lkommen. You're not alone buddy. I've been on the list for about two years now and you could say that all I know about Birds I've learned from the list. It's a great source of knowledge. Feel free to e-mail me directly if you have any swedish related bird questions. /Niklas Gothenburg, Sweden 68 Coupe u92109186@telia.com wrote: > > Hello! > I=B4m Roger Andersson and is living in Sweden! > Is it anyone else but me in this mailing list who is from Sweden? > I have heritage a restoration object, a 68 Firebird, for a couple of = years > ago and I will try to restore it with a start later this year. > Regards > Roger Andersson > Boden, Sweden > > -------
(back) Subject: Safety Mandated Items From: "Keith Donmoyer" <kadonny@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:56:05 -0400 Paul, My car is one such car. My 68 was assembled in November 67 and does not have the shoulder belts. The car is original. Keith 68 H.O. Subject: Re: Safety mandated items From: "Andy" <fbird68@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:26:46 -0700 Paul, The 1968 Annual states that front-seat shoulder harnesses were required starting January 1, 1968. Lap belts were required for all seats. My '68 had front shoulder harnesses, but they proved to be so impractical that I did not put them back up when I replaced the headliner years ago. Is it possible the '68s you've seen were manufactured before January 1? Mine was made in February. Andy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: Re: Music/Song that defines the gen 1 'birds From: <jrotman@rms.moore.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:28:36 -0500 Born To Run of course!!
(back) Subject: Summer song From: "Chris Porter" <fxstsb@qwest.net> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:56:09 -0700 Sammy Hagar- Trans Am. Very good Bird song. Be better if I had a `69 T/A....maybe someday, anybody have a winning lottery ticket they want to give me..lol. Chris `68 350 H.O. Drop-top
(back) Subject: Re: Got it running but... From: "matt schmid" <schmidmj@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:08:54 The new Holley is a 4bbl 4150/4160 with manual choke, I belive it is 650 cfm, or 600 cfm. It was used so set up for another engine. Tried adjusting = myself but hadn't learned enough about Holley's to do it correctly. Now I believe after some research I know enough and I'm going to try again tonight. The engine is a 350 stock. I just got new spark plugs, spark plug = wires, distributor cap, dist coil and dist button/or rotor (HEI obviously) = the intake manifold is not stock. I believe it is actually and edelbrock intake, not sure but has the split 4 bore intake with 2 smaller than the other two. The rest is stock, I believe, to my knowledge nothing else had been done to it. >From: Studderin@aol.com >Reply-To: "First Generation Firebird-L" = <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> >To: Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com >Subject: Re: Got it running but... >Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:17:42 EDT > >First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List >......................................................................... >Matt > I just read your first post and Think your plugs are folded, What >model >and size is the "new" holley? Is used and already setup for some one = else's >car? Dose your exhaust smell like a 2 stroke weedwacker? Tell us more on >your >motor (size) and how stock or not stock it is. >John Costello > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: Re: Music/Song that defines the gen 1 'birds From: "Rich Durham" <bull@ccomm.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:29:00 -0400 "Groovin'" by the Rascals At 10:23 AM 4/17/01 -0400, you wrote: >First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List >......................................................................... >Hello, > >Summer is almost upon us, and in some parts of >the continent we are starting to see the sun for >the first time in months. Covers are coming off and >V8's are firing - time for cruisin'.... > >SO ---- I'm looking for opinions on the "song, artist >or other music that defines the gen 1 'birds" -- >you know, the song that revs up YOUR engine while >you're spending time with your precious baby bird. > >Let me know what you think! > >Thanks & cheers, > >-Duane Bender >'68 V8 Coupe > > Rich Durham Weatherly, Pa. bull@ccomm.com
(back) Subject: Re: Music/Song that defines the gen 1 'birds From: "matt schmid" <schmidmj@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:16:49 George Thorogood & the Deleware Destroyers "Bad to the Bone" On the day it was born The MECHANICS all gathered 'round And they gazed in wide wonder At the joy they had found The head mechanic spoke up Said leave this one alone He could tell right away That it was bad to the bone Bad to the bone, bad to the bone B-b-b-b-bad, B-b-b-b-bad, B-b-b-b-bad, bad to the bone _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: RE: Music/Song that defines the gen 1 'birds From: "Trimpe, Bob" <TrimpeB@rajones.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:30:18 -0400 "Eight Miles High" by (who else) the Byrds Bob Trimpe -----Original Message----- From: jrotman@rms.moore.com [mailto:jrotman@rms.moore.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 11:29 AM To: First Generation Firebird-L Subject: Re: Music/Song that defines the gen 1 'birds First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List .......................................................................... Born To Run of course!!
(back) Subject: 8.5 to 8.2? From: "lws" <lws@nextek.net> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:21:10 -0400 is it possible to change the insides of 79 camaro/firebird 8.5 3.42 posi over to my 68 original rear housing which is 8.2,right?any problems?Thanks,Larry
(back) Subject: Re: Music/Song that defines the gen 1 'birds From: "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:25:14 -0700 My desire for an F-body (any first gen f-body) began in my teenage years, doubtless the influence of Dead Milkmen, Bitchin Camaro. These days, KPIG in Freedom CA (once known as Whiskey Hill) keeps me = company in the garage. They play a lot of gearhead and rambling kind of music, = and broadcast online www.KPIG.com , and are possibly the largest internet = radio station. but... There is NO Music like a dual exhaust V8 wide open in a tunnel! Rowan >From: "Duane Bender" <dbender@dotcomify.com> >Hello, > >Summer is almost upon us, and in some parts of >the continent we are starting to see the sun for >the first time in months. Covers are coming off and >V8's are firing - time for cruisin'.... > >SO ---- I'm looking for opinions on the "song, artist >or other music that defines the gen 1 'birds" -- >you know, the song that revs up YOUR engine while >you're spending time with your precious baby bird. > >Let me know what you think! > >Thanks & cheers, > >-Duane Bender >'68 V8 Coupe _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: Re: Got it running but... From: "marcts" <marcts@ga.prestige.net> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:47:22 -0400 Matt, I just looked at your pics and that is a quadrajet manifold. This is a factory manifold. You cannot use a holley square bore carb on this manifold without an adapter. This is probably a big reason why your car runs like sh@t! Even with the adapter it is not good to use the holley with this. Either trash that intake for a performer and use the holley, or get a quadrajet. The edelbrock manifolds are square bore, the performer is a dual plane as is the performer rpm, and the torquer is a single plane which just has one big square hole. Since your engine is a stock 350, anything larger than a 600 will be too big. Also make sure you plug all vacuum leaks!
(back) Subject: RE: Music/Song that defines the gen 1 'birds From: "Erich Wagner" <ewagner@advancepac.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:00:01 -0400 George Thorogood & the Deleware Destroyers "Bad to the Bone" On the day it was born The MECHANICS all gathered 'round And they gazed in wide wonder At the joy they had found The head mechanic spoke up Said leave this one alone He could tell right away That it was bad to the bone Bad to the bone, bad to the bone B-b-b-b-bad, B-b-b-b-bad, B-b-b-b-bad, bad to the bone That gets my vote!!! Erich Wagner '67 Firebird 326 Convertible e-mail: ewagner@advancepac.com <mailto:ewagner@advancepac.com> or honus@fuse.net <mailto:honus@fuse.net>
(back) Subject: Re: List Server(oops): Re: Safety mandated items From: "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:11:13 -0700 >My trim tag indicates first week of January '68, >and the car has no sign of shoulder harness, >but it is missing a lot of little stuff too. >would the '67 colsole maybe be original? >Rowan > > > >From: Andy <fbird68@ix.netcom.com> > >Paul, > > > >The 1968 Annual states that front-seat shoulder harnesses were required > >starting January 1, 1968. Lap belts were required for all seats. My '68 > >had front shoulder harnesses, but they proved to be so impractical that > >I did not put them back up when I replaced the headliner years ago. Is > >it possible the '68s you've seen were manufactured before January 1? > >Mine was made in February. > > > >Andy > > > > > > > > > > Subject: safty mandated items > > > From: <Pzary3233@aol.com> > > > Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:51:49 EDT > > > > > > Andy > > > So with the information that was just provided it says that Shoulder > >belts > > > > > > where mandated in to existence on the 68 cars? But I thought that it >was > > > only > > > an option that's just my thinking because I know that a lot of the = 68 > >cars > > > do > > > not have shoulder belts as mine never did till I put them in. I may = be > > >way > > > > > > off and iterpreting that very wrong. so please correct me. > > > Paul Z. > > > 68, 350 coupe _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: Re: 8.5 to 8.2? From: "Frank Zeller" <fzeller@tri-austin.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:28:09 -0500 This is from the classical Pontiac web site.......................... Hi, I've done lots of those change overs. Grind case and a little off the = ring gear so that ring gear /posi assembly will install in your Pontiac = case. The ring gear will be fine, besides the pinion never touches the = outside of the of the ring gear. Remove big pinion bearing from Chevy, = remove big pinion race from Pontiac case. Take measurements of Pontiac = outer race, Chevy pinion inner race , and Chevy bearing thickness. Now go = to a Decimal to Metric conversion table and change measurements to metric. = Now call bearing shop and order bearing , it's a standard stock unit. And = stronger than original!, (more rollers,hihger grade) Install 8.5 ring , = pinion, posi in a Pontiac case !! Pontiac axles will slide right in, no = worry on the c-clip for Pontiac uses retainer bolts. !! Now you all can do = it, I've been doing this for years, developed it myself . >>> lws@nextek.net 04/17/01 03:21PM >>> First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List .......................................................................... is it possible to change the insides of 79 camaro/firebird 8.5 3.42 posi over to my 68 original rear housing which is 8.2,right?any problems?Thanks,Larry