First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List Ivy Gold Interior by <Pzary3233@aol.com> fine thread vs coarse thread control arm bolts is there a difference? by <BHA676@aol.com> Owner Show Pages Updated (5-6-2001) by "Geoff Martin" <Geoff@firstgenfirebird.org> Got brakes ??? by "Chris Porter" <fxstsb@qwest.net> Re: fine thread vs coarse thread control arm bolts is there adifference? by "Joe Brown" <jb.pb@gte.net> Re: Ivy Gold Interior by <JGeigel@aol.com> bolt technology 101... by "danny" <dannyboylll@qwest.net> Re: fine thread vs coarse thread control arm bolts is there adifference? by "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> Will 1967 326 heads work on a 1977 400 ? by "Mike In Michigan" <rockster37@hotmail.com> Re: fine thread vs coarse thread control arm bolts is thereadifference? by "Doug" <dcharnley@mediaone.net> Re: Ivy Gold Interior by <Pzary3233@aol.com> Re: interior colors by "John Clear" <jjclear@my-deja.com>
(back) Subject: Ivy Gold Interior From: <Pzary3233@aol.com> Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 14:07:21 EDT HEy all, it almost time to get my intrior done! so i have a few questions about my interior. I ahve a 68 with april gold exterior paint and Ivy gold = interior. I need to know what the original color for the dash pad and the package = tray. My dash pad which tomy knowage is original is a really dark grean color = even in the areas that are not in the sun light. as for the pcakage try it was gone and I do not have anyhting to go by. Thanks for any information you = can give me! Paul Z 68 350 coupe
(back) Subject: fine thread vs coarse thread control arm bolts is there a difference? From: <BHA676@aol.com> Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 14:09:22 EDT I found near identical grade 8 bolts with fine thread along with the = locking nuts at a hardware store. But the threads are fine. The guy there said = they were actually stronger than coarse. Is this right? I found the correct parts in a catalog for 5.50 a pop but is this necessary? I want to save money but dont want to have problems later. brad 67 400 convert
(back) Subject: Owner Show Pages Updated (5-6-2001) From: "Geoff Martin" <Geoff@firstgenfirebird.org> Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 19:54:20 -0400 Subject: Owner Show Pages Updated (5-6-2001) Added some more owners today to the First Generation Firebird Owners' Show Pages: James Davis 1968 Blue (Not Factory) Firebird 400 Coupe (http://FirstGenFirebird.org/show/closeup.mv?CarID=3D163) ------------------- Enjoy - Geoff '68 Mayfair Maize Firebird 350 Convertible (http://FirstGenFirebird.org/show/closeup.mv?CarID=3D46) (Geoff@firstgenfirebird.org) More information about adding your car or link to the owner pages: (http://FirstGenFirebird.org/firebird/owners/info.html) (Make sure to drop the "(" and ")" when using the URLs)
(back) Subject: Got brakes ??? From: "Chris Porter" <fxstsb@qwest.net> Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 17:41:23 -0700 Well, I got brakes now. Got my rebuilt, and newly gold plated, booster back. Got a new master cylinder installed. And presto ! The pedal feel's great, and stop's the car <<< bonus. No more RPM increase when I step on the brakes either. Now to get the non 400 hood painted to match, and I'm back on the road. :-). Chris `68 350 H.O. Drop-top
(back) Subject: Re: fine thread vs coarse thread control arm bolts is there adifference? From: "Joe Brown" <jb.pb@gte.net> Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 21:47:22 -0400 Yes fine thread bolts will work the same . But we need a bolt expert here = , what is the difference between fine and course ? I would assume fine = thread you could make tighter easier or make a closer adjustment to a specified torque . Joe
(back) Subject: Re: Ivy Gold Interior From: <JGeigel@aol.com> Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 23:15:56 EDT Paul, I don't know about the package tray, but my 68 convert has a deluxe Ivy Gold= =20 interior and it has a dark green dash pad. =A0That is the way it was from th= e=20 factory. Joe Geigel HEy all, it almost time to get my intrior done! so i have a few questions about my=20 interior. I ahve a 68 with april gold exterior paint and Ivy gold interior.=20= I=20 need to know what the original color for the dash pad and the package tray.=20 My dash pad which tomy knowage is original is a really dark grean color even= =20 in the areas that are not in the sun light. as for the pcakage try it was=20 gone and I do not have anyhting to go by. Thanks for any information you can= =20 give me! Paul Z 68 350 coupe
(back) Subject: bolt technology 101... From: "danny" <dannyboylll@qwest.net> Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 23:27:41 -0600 the difference between fine threads and course threads is that fine = threads allow for a more precise torque. fine threads also allow for very fine ajustments to insert cotter pins or for aligning saftey wire holes while maintaing a very small torque range. very important for some torque-critical items. course threads on the other hand are more rugged = and can take more abuse in the form of tension and compression legnthwise = along the bolt. i got my info from a united states airforce technical manual for general aircraft repair. -danny 68 400 new mexico
(back) Subject: Re: fine thread vs coarse thread control arm bolts is there adifference? From: "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 22:42:50 -0700 As I see it: the bushings are held in place by the clamping force of the bolt on the bushing liner, so the bushing isn't affected in any waay bu thread type. Fine thread bolts are 'stronger'(less prone to stripping) because there is = more contact surface to share the load. A fine thread bolt will require less torque to acheaive the same clamping force due to the shallower angle(ie.turn a fine bolt 20 turns to move one inch, wheras the coarse takes only 12 turns to cover the distance). AS to using the hardware store bolt on your front end, the point on the OE = bolts eases instalation, but you can use one of them as a guide at the = back while installing the new bolt at the front(or grind a point on the new = bolts for OE look). I'd also use an extra nut to lock it in place, like a shock = top. A nylock nut might succumb to heat and chemicals over time. Rowan PS wanna read more about bolts than I do, visit http://www.arp-bolts.com They have a big tech section I didn't read >From: "Joe Brown" <jb.pb@gte.net> >First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List >......................................................................... >Yes fine thread bolts will work the same . But we need a bolt expert here = , >what is the difference between fine and course ? I would assume fine = thread >you could make tighter easier or make a closer adjustment to a specified >torque . > Joe _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: Will 1967 326 heads work on a 1977 400 ? From: "Mike In Michigan" <rockster37@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 05:17:26 -0400 Will 1967 326 H.O. heads work on a 1977 400 ? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: Re: fine thread vs coarse thread control arm bolts is thereadifference? From: "Doug" <dcharnley@mediaone.net> Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 06:10:51 -0400 I just replaced my lower contol arms using hardware store #8 3 1/2" = long 1/2" bolts. They went in ok using an air gun to drive them. For nuts and = bolts, I paid around $7. After reading this thread, I looked in Year One and they sell the correct = type nut and bolts but they don't say what size or thread type they are so I = don't know if I can get away by just ordering the nuts. The ones I used are = coarse thread, I believe. Doug x1r1 x wrote: > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > > As I see it: > > the bushings are held in place by the clamping force of the bolt on the > bushing liner, so the bushing isn't affected in any waay bu thread type. > > Fine thread bolts are 'stronger'(less prone to stripping) because there = is > more contact surface to share the load. > > A fine thread bolt will require less torque to acheaive the same = clamping > force due to the shallower angle(ie.turn a fine bolt 20 turns to move = one > inch, wheras the coarse takes only 12 turns to cover the distance). > > AS to using the hardware store bolt on your front end, the point on the = OE > bolts eases instalation, but you can use one of them as a guide at the = back > while installing the new bolt at the front(or grind a point on the new = bolts > for OE look). I'd also use an extra nut to lock it in place, like a = shock > top. A nylock nut might succumb to heat and chemicals over time. > Rowan > > PS wanna read more about bolts than I do, visit http://www.arp-bolts.com > They have a big tech section I didn't read > > >From: "Joe Brown" <jb.pb@gte.net> > >First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = >......................................................................... > >Yes fine thread bolts will work the same . But we need a bolt expert = here , > >what is the difference between fine and course ? I would assume fine = thread > >you could make tighter easier or make a closer adjustment to a = specified > >torque . > > Joe > >
(back) Subject: Re: Ivy Gold Interior From: <Pzary3233@aol.com> Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 06:36:53 EDT Thanks very much! Paul
(back) Subject: Re: interior colors From: "John Clear" <jjclear@my-deja.com> Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 05:02:45 -0700 Larry My 68 Conv has the Ivy Gold interior. It's called Ivy gold, but it looks = green to me. Seats, Door & kick panels, carpet & dash are light green. The = dash pad is a dark green. J. Clear >have 68 conv.,was originally green with gold interior and gold = >top.interior >now is green with black top.I want to put it back to original,what >all = was >gold inside?seats,door panels,dash,dash pad,what about = carpet?>Thanks,Larry ------------------------------------------------------------ --=3D=3D Sent via Deja.com =3D=3D-- http://www.deja.com/