First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List Re: Parting out - 67 Firebird by "Bad Acid" <bad-acid@pacbell.net> Re: cocktail shaker differences by "bird" <bird@javanet.com> E-Bay Results by <Framair@aol.com> Re: I'm Back!!! by <joseph.f.rotman@household.com> Re: 69 HEI Hookup Revisited by "Jeff Lane" <JeffLane32@hotmail.com> electrical connector goo by "Todd Chynoweth" <pinec@pitnet.net> Re: Ram Air intake with A/C? by "Stuart Langer" <stumann1@mindspring.com> RE: Front `68 shaker's by "John Clear" <jjclear@my-deja.com> RE RamAir with a/c by "Gary Patrick" <Gary@tcworks.net> Re: Parting out - 67 Firebird by "Gary Patrick" <Gary@tcworks.net> Re: 69 Cocktail Shakers by <joseph.f.rotman@household.com> Re: E-Bay Results by "Jamie Hutchinson" <jhutchi2@maine.rr.com> RE: Parting out - 67 Firebird by "Bryan & Mone' Young" <bryandmo@home.com> RE: Parting out - 67 Firebird by "Ken Reimer" <kreimer@uniserve.com> Re: 69 HEI Hookup Revisited by "Frank Zeller" <fzeller@tri-austin.com> Re: Axel question?????Help by "Frank Zeller" <fzeller@tri-austin.com> Re: 69 HEI Hookup Revisited by "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com>
(back) Subject: Re: Parting out - 67 Firebird From: "Bad Acid" <bad-acid@pacbell.net> Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 22:26:33 -0700 Ken, If your anywhere near Bakersfield, CA, I could use the rear-end and shock mount plates, and probably some other goodies... Lance
(back) Subject: Re: cocktail shaker differences From: "bird" <bird@javanet.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 07:10:09 -0400 The cocktail shakers are the same for all three years. Only the bracketing = differs.
(back) Subject: E-Bay Results From: <Framair@aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 08:05:13 EDT E-BAY ITEM # 584794946 NOS 67/68 "FIREBIRD" Front Fender Emblems (The correct 'flat' style; not '69) Sold for $91pr. Correct me if I'm wrong, but are not the currently available repro emblems (67/68) same as originals in appearance and fit ? If so, why would someone pay almost $100pr when repro's are less than $50pr ? my 3-cents John FRamair@aol.com Semper Fi Ephesians 4:32
(back) Subject: Re: I'm Back!!! From: <joseph.f.rotman@household.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 07:56:28 -0500 Hugo, I live in the Northern burbs of Chicago and I am not sure my old = bird would have made it all the way to Joliet. Sorry the weather was so gawd-awful for you. That track there is only a few years old .. it's great! I couldn't make it cuz it was the first week of my new job. The good news is that I work with a muscle car freak like me who enjoys rebuilding cars. He is in to Bow-ties but what the heck. He is going to mentor me so that = I can feel more comfortable working on my bird. I hope to do the Power tour in a few years myself! Have a great time Joe Rotman 68 Firebird 350 Convertible
(back) Subject: Re: 69 HEI Hookup Revisited From: "Jeff Lane" <JeffLane32@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:25:08 -0400 Thanks for the info. But that still doesn't answer my question. How did you guys do this? I guess I am going to completely replace the old wire = that went to the old coil all the way to the firewall and volt meter it with = the car running. There was a #12 wire spliced onto this wire about a foot from the firewall and that went to an Accel Super Coil with a Crane Cams = Ignition and Pertonix (whatever those LED/ sensor with the flimsy plastic slots things) distributor. I wanted an HEI so I go one used with new coil, cap, rotor, module, and adjustable vacuum advance and put one heavy and one medium spring on the weights. Now we're talking! I was always fighting misses and bogging at higher RPMs. Maybe I wasn't getting 12 volts all along? I've also just slapped on a new Edelbrock carb and both Summit and Edelbrock are at a loss as how to hook up the throttle return spring. It hooked right up to the old Holley that was on there, now there is only a place for the throttle cable and TH-350 kickdown cable! Where does the spring go??? Anyone with a #1411 have this problem? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Brown" <jb.pb@gte.net> To: "First Generation Firebird-L" <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:54 PM Subject: Re: 69 HEI Hookup Revisited > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > If you check the wire going to the coil with it off the coil you will have > 12v , when connect to the coil it drop to 6v . So I do not believe the last > 12" of the wire is resistance , it is the total length of wire , Mopars used > the firewall mounted resistor . I used a 12v source and switched it , = hid > the switch for anti-theft . If the 6v source is hooked up to HEI you = will > have hard starting , long cranking before starting , power will fade = under > hard acceleration after 3500 rpm's . > The first post was a good one , I wish I had that info 8 years ago . > Joe > > >
(back) Subject: electrical connector goo From: "Todd Chynoweth" <pinec@pitnet.net> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 08:37:47 -0500 Rowan, asked (anyone know where to get the grease/goo that connector is packed with?). I am not sure what the factory used but the no corrode compound sold in the electrical department of your local hardware store = may be a good substitute, This is used typically when a electrical connection is made with = dissimilar metals Aluminum and Copper to eliminate corrosion. Todd C
(back) Subject: Re: Ram Air intake with A/C? From: "Stuart Langer" <stumann1@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:01:58 -0500 > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > I was told that 1969 RAM AIR 3 and 4 engines did not have A/C as an = option and I've never seen a RAM AIR engine with A/C. Is this true? Has anyone added A/C > (OE or after market) to a RAM AIR engine? > > Thanks, > > Rich W. My 69 T/A with RAIII has factory A/C. Stumann
(back) Subject: RE: Front `68 shaker's From: "John Clear" <jjclear@my-deja.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:49:44 -0700 Chris, Could you send me those pics also. The shakers for my 68 are in pretty bad = shape, but repairable. I just need to know what the brackets used to look = like. J. Clear jjclear@my-deja.com >Subject: Front `68 shaker's >From: "Chris Porter" <fxstsb@qwest.net> >Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 21:15:44 -0700 > > Charlie, I just piced up a set of front one's. They need a >little work, but I'll snap a photo and sent it your way if >you want. > ------------------------------------------------------------ --=3D=3D Sent via Deja.com =3D=3D-- http://www.deja.com/
(back) Subject: RE RamAir with a/c From: "Gary Patrick" <Gary@tcworks.net> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 16:59:31 -0400 >I was told that 1969 RAM AIR 3 and 4 engines did not have A/C as an option and I've never seen a RAM AIR >engine with A/C. Is this true? Has = anyone added A/C >(OE or after market) to a RAM AIR engine? > Thanks, > Rich W. Rich theres been quite abit of discussion on availability of factory a/c = on 400s and Ram Air cars. In 69 the only ones that werent available with factory a/c were: RA IV and Sprints. The RA III or 400HO as it was called in 69 was available with a/c under certain guidelines. It was available in a 4 speed and with a 336 rear end ratio. Im sure someone has added factory a/c to a true RA car and remember a fellow in Orlando that had an a/c 69 400 HO convert that he cloned into a TA convert. With a real TA hardtop as the donor. Adding factory a/c is a big challenge but can be done. 400 cars are the easiest to do as they already have the baffles and larger radiator. Gary
(back) Subject: Re: Parting out - 67 Firebird From: "Gary Patrick" <Gary@tcworks.net> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:03:01 -0400 Subject: Re: Parting out - 67 Firebird From: <codepnot@erols.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 21:34:56 -0400 Do you have a G O O D rear bumper? Robert, In Maryland Robert Ive got some good cores here. Chrome is tired but no rust or dents. have both front and rears. email me off list. Gary
(back) Subject: Re: 69 Cocktail Shakers From: <joseph.f.rotman@household.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:02:18 -0500 I have a friend who is need of 4 cocktail shakers for a 69. I assume that the bird shakers are the same as the bow-tie shakers. Any suggestions as where I can tell him to find some?
(back) Subject: Re: E-Bay Results From: "Jamie Hutchinson" <jhutchi2@maine.rr.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 19:10:20 -0400 Because that's what some people do on E-bay.....get caught in a bidding = war, overestimate the price without proper references.....?? Maybe they're actually putting the extra value on the fact that they're supposedly NOS........If you get the parts but they retain the box, caveat emptor. = They could actually be repro's after all. I have no problem with my "repro's". Jamie Correct me if I'm wrong, but are not the currently available repro emblems (67/68) same as originals in appearance and fit ? If so, why would someone pay almost $100pr when repro's are less than $50pr ? my 3-cents John FRamair@aol.com Semper Fi Ephesians 4:32
(back) Subject: RE: Parting out - 67 Firebird From: "Bryan & Mone' Young" <bryandmo@home.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 15:14:16 -0700 Ok since it seems everyone is talking about parts again and trying to find them, anyone have a driver's door for a 68 conv? Mine had a really bad accident. I am in southern California. Thought I would give it a try. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com [mailto:Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com]On Behalf Of Ken Reimer Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:37 PM To: First Generation Firebird-L Cc: coreman@uniserve.com Subject: Re: Parting out - 67 Firebird First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List .......................................................................... Hey Craig, I thought that you found that switch a coon's age ago! Yes, I have it used and NOS! Got anything interesting in the core pile? Regards, Ken At 04:07 PM 5/9/2001 -0700, you wrote: >First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List >......................................................................... >Hey Ken, >Craig from Vancouver Core, >If thats a 2 spd console car I could use the neutral safety/backup light >switch under the console and a side view mirror. Let me know. > > > >Ken Reimer wrote: > >> First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List >> = ......................................................................... >> Just received a 67 Firebird, parting it out, let me know if you need >> anything, please be patient for answers. > >
(back) Subject: RE: Parting out - 67 Firebird From: "Ken Reimer" <kreimer@uniserve.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:14:45 -0700 Hi Brian, I have the 68 LH door, e-mail me off-list for a price and shipping quote. Regards, Ken At 03:14 PM 5/10/2001 -0700, you wrote: >First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List >......................................................................... >Ok since it seems everyone is talking about parts again and trying to = find >them, anyone have a driver's door for a 68 conv? Mine had a really bad >accident. I am in southern California. Thought I would give it a try. > > >> >>Ken Reimer wrote: >> >>> First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List >>> = ......................................................................... >>> Just received a 67 Firebird, parting it out, let me know if you need >>> anything, please be patient for answers. >> >
(back) Subject: Re: 69 HEI Hookup Revisited From: "Frank Zeller" <fzeller@tri-austin.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:04:37 -0500 Joe, I can only relate my experience. This is on a 69 Firebird. Approximately = 10 years ago I switched to an HEI. I cut the wire back and installed a = new wire with the correct HEI plug. 10 years ago it had 11.8 volts with = just the ignition on and 12.5 to 14 volts with the motor running. I just = repeated the experiment today and got the same results. When the car had = a 400 I would regularly rev it past 6000 rpm. I also gaped the plugs at = 0.050. This car has been my daily driver for the last 3 years. Frank >>> jb.pb@gte.net 05/09/01 08:54PM >>> First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List .......................................................................... If you check the wire going to the coil with it off the coil you will = have 12v , when connect to the coil it drop to 6v . So I do not believe the = last 12" of the wire is resistance , it is the total length of wire , Mopars = used the firewall mounted resistor . I used a 12v source and switched it , hid the switch for anti-theft . If the 6v source is hooked up to HEI you will have hard starting , long cranking before starting , power will fade under hard acceleration after 3500 rpm's . The first post was a good one , I wish I had that info 8 years ago . Joe
(back) Subject: Re: Axel question?????Help From: "Frank Zeller" <fzeller@tri-austin.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:18:48 -0500 66 to 69 G.T.O Lemans 67 to 69 Firebird have the same 30 inch long 28 = spline axiles. The late 69's might have a little different bearing. >>> Birdm58293@aol.com 05/09/01 09:45PM >>> First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List .......................................................................... I currently have a 1968 XC rearend (68 firebird) and one of the axels are messed up. It is a non-clip type rearend i believe. The question is will a = set of axels from a 68 lemans with 28 spline from a 8.2 rear fit my rear = end? Thanks Tom
(back) Subject: Re: 69 HEI Hookup Revisited From: "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:41:49 -0700 I have a related experiene too... My friend got a BMW 2002 with a hopped up motor, Pertronix and Crane ignition hooked to 9ish volts via the resistor wire. It ran much better once we got 12V to the ignition box. Also, My Chevy PU I converted to HEI. I used a big wire to the run = terminal on the starter. It has sparked flawlessly for about 3 years except for = the time my ign switch went bad. Rowan >From: "Frank Zeller" <fzeller@tri-austin.com> >......................................................................... >Joe, > >I can only relate my experience. This is on a 69 Firebird. = Approximately >10 years ago I switched to an HEI. I cut the wire back and installed a = new >wire with the correct HEI plug. 10 years ago it had 11.8 volts with just = >the ignition on and 12.5 to 14 volts with the motor running. I just >repeated the experiment today and got the same results. When the car had = a >400 I would regularly rev it past 6000 rpm. I also gaped the plugs at >0.050. This car has been my daily driver for the last 3 years. > >Frank > > > >>> jb.pb@gte.net 05/09/01 08:54PM >>> >First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List >......................................................................... >If you check the wire going to the coil with it off the coil you will = have >12v , when connect to the coil it drop to 6v . So I do not believe the >last >12" of the wire is resistance , it is the total length of wire , Mopars >used >the firewall mounted resistor . I used a 12v source and switched it , hid >the switch for anti-theft . If the 6v source is hooked up to HEI you will >have hard starting , long cranking before starting , power will fade = under >hard acceleration after 3500 rpm's . >The first post was a good one , I wish I had that info 8 years ago . > Joe > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com