Bigbird, i replaced the starter and my problem is fixed.The key and cylinder is an issue, i agree it should not spin or be able to remove the key while running.I neglected to mention that it would spin 360 without the key but when cranking it would only go as far as the crank position.Thanks for the tips and the link as i will probably use it.
David
http://FirstGenFirebird.org/show/closeup.mv?CarID=571 If i don't get this car back on the road soon i'm gonna go postal! On a quest for FGF knowledge 1968 Pontiac Firebird Convertible 1969 Oldsmobile Cutlass "S" Convertible *Sold*