I would like to thank everyone for helping me out on my post i just had to buy a new camera yesterday so i am working on getting the pics down.. i think i have them right but here is some of them to show my prob.. that is not the brand new bumper showing in the pic.. but the brand new one has the same measurements as that one does..I am slowly buying new parts for my 69 conv. to some day have it comp. restored thanks again, dave