thanks to all for the reply - i really appreciate it! when i bought the car, it came with a chevy 400 from a 75 caprice - runs like a bat outta hell. the dude also gave me a '69 b-body 400 and 2 muncie 4-speeds, both m21s. one was rebuilt with chevy bellhousing, one has broken dogear with BOP bell housing. he also gave me the manual pedals. i acquired a manual/console steering column, and recently i bought an auto console, but i didn't know if the auto and manual were the same.

i have a 70 grand prix that i've collected 4 speed parts for for years and i can appreciate that the correct parts make all the difference. the frame bracket on a grand prix is not reproduced. the pot-metal console insert for manual trans is not reproduced. i spent big $$$ buying both to get a correct conversion. i've learned the f-bodies are more easily acquired, but i can appreciate that the correct parts make all the difference. i may make the conversion to auto console, then to 4 speed, but we'll see.

i also very much appreciate that rowing 4 muscle car gears is not the same as an updated manual. the sound of a muncie 4 speed...the feel of being connected to the driving experience...that's why i have to convert auto to manual thanks again for the replys

sean