I haven’t read anything particularly negative about either so that’s a good start. Vintage air has a new set up that doesn’t use cables and I really don’t know what to think about that. As far as I know the cables are reliable but maybe there is some advantage to the ‘fly by wire’ set up. I did learn a little more about the install from the downloads they have available. It looks like I just might be able to use their kit 'as is' since the lines I am concerned about exit pretty low on the fire wall. Anyway I am working on a list of questions so hopefully I can address everything when I give them a call. I also noticed that the 10% off add I saw is actually a dealer in MS and not Vintage air directly. Do any of those guys there have a local dealer ‘go to guy’? I’ll do the install but I’m looking for a deal on the kit. I know I need to get started on this as I want to have it ready for Fredericksburg so my girls will go.