Boater Bill, now I'm confused. Salmon said it will bolt up and everything will bolt to it, just like my Bird subframe. "no differences." But you're saying the motor and power steering mounting points are different? How would I account for that? What I'm asking the learned folks on the forum is....are the 1969 Firebird and Camaro subframes EXACTLY identical in every detail so I can use it without mods. Anyone? I'm picking this thing up tomorrow afternoon, so I sure need your help, and fast. Thanks.