Yes Dennis, that's what I was trying to get at. I agree with oldskool that teachers (and staff) who are willing to carry should be allowed to do so if properly trained, this could be part of the answer. However, my bigger concern is the mentality of those who wish to do harm. In each of these cases many warning signs were present. On a campus this week a student was overheard talking about shooting up his school. He was questioned and his house searched. Found were several guns including an assault weapon and nearly 20 clips of ammo. Should not part of our approach be to allow law enforcement the ability to follow up on the signals that were obvious to so many? We recently had a teen death in our small town from an accidental shooting. Two friends fooling around with shotguns in their house while missing school. Where are our parents? There are many facets to this problem, and perhaps many parts to the solution. But no ones political objectives need be a part of it. This is to important.