68Bigbird, Good Point. We had that problem two years ago and found that the input shaft was twisted (didn't notice he twist when we bought the M-20 at a swap meet). We replaced the input shaft and fixed that problem, but the symptoms were similar. Starting in gear with clutch in presents nasty whining, that does not change a whole lot when engaging the pedal. Pedal feels fine. We will be pulling it all out again on Monday, Jan 2, unless we can get to it sooner.