Another thing that needs to be added: If Goeff does decide to ban these problem members there needs to be some "teeth" in it. To avoid this being a repetitive, new member, problem, I would like to suggest that if a memebr is banned and they return under an assumed name, they should be banned as soon as they are discovered. Having this as a definite part of the banning process would end troublemakers from thinking that they can burn their bridges and return time after time. You may wonder how we will tell who they are? Answer: If you can't tell who they are then they are not causing trouble then. Problem completely solved.