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#54173 07/19/06 12:28 PM
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I disagree, Jim. Not on the seller's rep, but on the car. The car as presented is not as the seller claims it, a restored 1969 Trans Am.

T/As consisted of a package of performance and appearance parts on top of a 400 H.O. Firebird. Options could be added that would alter the package and would be shown on the PHS. This car has options not on the PHS docs and is missing some T/A package items.

If the body is in fact a T/A, that's fine. If it's not a T/A, that's fine too as I'm not buying it. It has a nice steel hood and Ram Air components. I cannot tell if the fender extractors are functional from the photos online, and can't tell if the deck lid torsion rods are correct, can't read the body tag to see the code, and can't see the variously located VIN numbers. But the car as presented is not as the seller claims it, a restored 1969 Trans Am.

With as much money in the hobby as we are seeing, fraud is all too common. What do you do if you think you bought the "real thing" with documentation but it turns out to be a clone, or a modified car, or a spliced together car? Research it deeply to be certain it is truly fraudulent? Keep it forever? Sell it? And if you sell it, how do you list it? With short descriptions that leave room for interpretation, or with a great deal of detail that could come back to bite you in court? Or do you stop examining it when you first suspect it may have been misrepresented, so you can truthfully say you did not know it was a clone/spliced/salvaged car?

I am not making any accusations against the seller. I am just stating that I think the car is not entirely what it purports to be. If the additional evidence was provided and proved, I would be willing to reconsider my opinion.


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