maybe i should hand my ase certifacations over to you.and the 30 yrs experience in the repair shop also lee.im never the one always trying to save money.my car breaks down also but at least i don't let money be an object when it comes to repairing it.i have learned that anything mechanical can and will fail eventually.to what degree,we never will know till it happens.if you want to trust your life to the"The "pins" rivet to the crosspiece on the steering gear side and fit (engage) into slots in the steel disc on the end of the steering column shaft. (Just disagree with you Terry on that point.)"than i don't think that you value it enough.life is precious.after seeing many buddies die unnecessarily,why take chances just to save a dollar.but i have always got the feeling with you lee that you would go farther than most to save an allmighty dollar.