455 7M5 Heads (about 8:1 compression) Cam specs unknown (seems pretty big though, or at least lots of overlap) 0.50" HEI 20° BTDC initial (low comp, big cam) 36° BTDC total (w/o vacuum) by 2600rpm Vacuum advance hooked to manifold (adds about 14° at idle)
455 (462) E-brock heads Custom ground roller camshaft Mallory Unilite with Vacuum advance and MSD HiPo round oil coil 91 octane pump gas Autolite AR 3932 plugs @ .040 Total timing 36 degrees (set via dyno testing) Inital timing 8 degrees (found via timing light) 488.9 HP @ 5100 RPM 574.2 ft/lbs at 3700 RPM (lowest point the dyno would measure)
2012 Mustang Boss 302 #1918, Competition Orange. FGF replacement 2006 Mustang V6 Pony, Vista Blue. Factory ordered. 2019 BMW X3 (Titled to the wife, but I'm always driving it for her. So I'm claiming it) Old projects, gone but not forgotten: 1967 FB 400, original CA car. After 22 years of work, trashed by the guy who was supposed to paint it. I had to sell it. 1980 Turbo Trans Am 1970 Mustang fastback, 351C 4Bbl, auto 1988 Mustang GT, 5 speed 1983 F-150 4x4, built 302 1994 Chevy K2500 HD 4x4, 454 TBI
400 (68) 16x Heads Stock Cam 0.45" Pertronix and Flame thrower 12° BTDC initial 30 something° BTDC total altho I think my vacuum valve may be hooked up screwy as it runs better cold...
I think I will do a cold and warm to compare on this thread!
400 engine .045 gap HEI ignition 14 degree initial, 12 mech, w/vac 46 at 2500 rpm. I know.. the timing seems off, but all the mech I can get... and it runs good.
For optimun settings for your combo - I highly recommend having it dynoed. I'm a believer now.
There is a lot of experimention involved in getting one of our non-computer controlled motors to run at it's peak.
2012 Mustang Boss 302 #1918, Competition Orange. FGF replacement 2006 Mustang V6 Pony, Vista Blue. Factory ordered. 2019 BMW X3 (Titled to the wife, but I'm always driving it for her. So I'm claiming it) Old projects, gone but not forgotten: 1967 FB 400, original CA car. After 22 years of work, trashed by the guy who was supposed to paint it. I had to sell it. 1980 Turbo Trans Am 1970 Mustang fastback, 351C 4Bbl, auto 1988 Mustang GT, 5 speed 1983 F-150 4x4, built 302 1994 Chevy K2500 HD 4x4, 454 TBI
Agreed BB (Greg), but I would have thought all our HEI spark gaps would have been within .010 of eachother. And I would have figured initial timing would be within 2-3 degrees for us all.
This is not the case for some reason. Not even close.
'68 428 HO M3 Monster, 4-on-the-floor! Need I say more?
I was reading a tuning tech article last night that said that mucle car era high compression Pontiacs liked 30* total timing because of refomulated gases. Everybody I've ever heard from said 36 to 38 is what they run.
If you're gap was too big for your ignition system, you'd be getting misfire, which you'd probably notice.
Originally Pontiac specified a 0.060" gap with HEI to maximize combustion efficiency. However, over time as the electrode wear increased the gap, the spark could no longer jump it. Since this was happening a little before normal tune-up intervals, they elected to dial it back to .045".
A good working HEI should easily handle the .050" you and I are running now.