Looks like the OEM number for a 68 V8 starter was 1108383? Trying to find out if this was a closed or open nose cone unit. Does anyone have a pic of an original they can post?

Does these pics help?

If you could show a pic of the opposite end that would be great! Thanks!

Never seen that part number for our starter. I've seen 1107355 and 108335 listed for a V8

The original number is 1108335/1108383 for service part number. http://www.teufert.net/partbook/67-76/2-i.pdf. http://www.wallaceracing.com/starter-numbers.htm

The most commonly used starter on a 68 seems to be 1107355 and I don't even see it listed in the first link. The original was suppose to be 1108335 but I've seen a lot with 1107355 which is what the 73 parts index shows.

That starter I have installed. I will get another that's not installed for pics.

Looks like 1108495 for 68 Bird, 4BC.....these lists are all jacked..

You have me curious now. Where is the starter part number? Before I lift and crawl under, can I even see it when it is on the car?

Jim, it's on the large starter housing driver's side, depending on the year they may be on the passenger side... stamped numbers...you really think you have the original starter in yours still?

I believe it is original. My Pontiac dealer repaired it 3/21/72 (63,664 miles) using new brushes, bushing, drive, washer, etc. The same dealer rebuilt it again 9/3/80 (150,358 miles) using more new brushes, bushing, drive, plate, solenoid, etc. Then in 10/13 (about 183,000 miles) I had it repaired at a local shop that sent it out to a rebuilder twice to get it right. So, unless someone did an unlikely switcheroo on me, it should be the original.

Right on, there's not much that can go bad on starter other then the solenoid, brushes and the 2 bushings, all of which are easy to come by. Learned something else today: There were actually high torque starters back in the day. The way you'll find out what you have is measure the width of the brass strip that connects to the solenoid. If its 1/4" wide its a std. starter, 3/8" makes it a high torque. Not sure how high torque it was back than, -maybe 1.2kw vs. 1.5?

I was able to see it around the LB manifold sufficiently to take a picture without lifting up the car. It is blurry but it looks like maybe 1108335 to me.

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Sure does! Concrats, its the original unit!

Nice shot Jim! Not sure what I have. Any ideas? Attached 2 starters. One out of 68 350HO and the other 68 FB400HO.

Code for 400HO starter: 107781 3F 12

Code for 350HO starter: 1108348 7A3 2 AB

Gus, seeing the squared off tops on the "3" in your photos had me looking again. It's the rotten blurred camera shot on mine that made the 3's look rounded topped and smaller. The "335" is clear, crisp, and in-line with the 1108. I also could see a "7 M" before the manifold got in the way. I suspect that means December '67 date code? Should be about right for a 4th week January vehicle.

Also, looking at the parts catalog page and date code, your 400HO may be a '63 starter.

I remembered how to use the macro closeup so I tried again:

You mean the 1007781 starter?
What is a 1108348?

Look at the parts page Harold posted earlier. It shows the 1007781 as 61-64 P/8. The date code you have is 3F so could that be 6/1963? A search for 1108348 shows a few results for referring to Olds in the late 60's.

Edit: Here: http://www.oldcarmanualproject.com/...Electrical%20System%20Ill/Group2.000.pdf
Looks like Olds "1968-69 350/4 BC/ & 400 Eng"

My book says 1108335 is the correct starter for 68 V8 4BC. Found correct date coded one and just had it rebuilt. Also found NOS solenoid 1114356. I believe 400 cars had shield as well.

Selling it?

Nope, going on my car, sorry. Aftermarket hi torque one on it now.

AMA specifications for '68 also list the Starter as being 1108335.
Some who claim to have all original engines still say it's 1107355.

Is there a factory part number for the shield? Guessing no one is reproducing this.
Appears to be riveted to the Starter/Solenoid?

If someone has one of these shields they'd temporary loan me, I could probably have it made.

John
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I think I just saw one in classic industries catalog. I can look in my parts book tonight to see if it shows the p/n. As I recall it does not. I heard they were only put on 400 cars. The two half’s are riveted together but it bolts to the starter.

I've unsuccessfully tried to determine if shields were original from the factory. As I mentioned before, my starter is an original that has been repaired/rebuilt three times. I also know there was no shield before the third repair because I considered adding one I purchased to help with the hot start problem. Before I added it, the starter failed entirely. I find it odd that Mr. Goodwrench in the 1972 and 1980 repairs would have tossed a factory shield. Also, so far, I have found no reference to a shield in documentation.

They are probably a good idea with the heat issue, however, does anyone have evidence of a shield being factory?

I would think if the long branch manifolds were the determining factor for the shield, they would be on the 400HO 's too. And, if they are on long branch equipped 400's, I would expect either a different starter assembly part number or a separate part number for the shield for such equipped engines.

Look at this pic. Pic of my engine with LBM and steel tube for starter wire installed with starter. Why would you need a shield?

Another pic of headers against the starter.

Not sure what shield would be useful for. Maybe it was used in other applications. I've never seen one before this one you have now.

What is the date of the parts book you are showing?

My parts catalog is July 1969.