i got them to download in a total of 8 minutes (my brother is a major computer geek)

thanks Yellowbird. i had to load the CD on the IBM in my brother's room, but i can access these on the MAC right here in front of the TV.

wish i had some parts to install, but watching Tom&Jerry is almost as good. too many push-cars in the garage to break out the welder and do exhaust work or "art".

i still really appreciate the CD, John. it will last forever. who knows where this computer's memory, or i, will be in a few years.