I actually just got off the phone with Jim Butler himself... he processed my order! I thought that was pretty cool.. I asked him to throw me in a free t-shirt. .First he said... I'll tell you what my daddy told me.. Hugs are great, but where is the money... at the end of the call I said, "2XL" he said, " I'll throw ya in some slimfast and a 1XL" he makes ya payfor it, one way or the other.... he beat summits price by $25 too