Nash, Sorry it takes me so long to write. The wife and I have been looking at houses all over the county and we finally found one so now its time to sell ours. So many things to do. Any ways, The tail pipe came out behind the rear tires between the spring and the quarter. I was very very happy with the kit. The bends look very smooth. Id do it again in a heart beat. But like I said it took 8-10 to get it cut and welded just right. I had exhaust put on a car before at a shop. Very disappointed with it. Thats why I decided to go with a kit. So I could spend the time to get it just right. Id take pictures but the car is well its got boxes all around it. Ill take a picture of it in its new home in two months. Joe