I don't know how to put up links, I'm better with a wrench than a computer. Mine are Global West. And yes there is a lot of cussing when you can't take them out when messing around under there. I needed to have my exhaust run behind the axle to get my import inspection passed. I went to a muffler shop to have them install some pipe back there. They cut off all the hangars and installed new ones by drilling into the frame and through the floor behind the seat. Charged me $450 and one side fell off two weeks later. I want to go to the shop Crazy used next time I need an exhaust done. I have pics somewhere hidden in this Voodoo computer thing, I'll post if/when I find some.