Oldskool, No not really! Somehow while reading some of the posted links above I got to some posts where the argument was whether ethanol was the best thing since sliced bread and if it was going to save the planet and all living things on it. I don't know how I got to those sites, I just re read the posted links and the discusion is clearly only about the way ethanol will perform in and engine. Obviously, good or bad for the world was not where this discussion was going. It didn't morph into something else until I posted. I like to get information and opinions from you and anyone else that posts on this site. My mistake and I apologize to everyone.