Thanks yall, thats pretty much what I was thinking. Its sure gonna be a fun-filled job gettin em yanked out Salmon, the third one was definitely an old Pontiac, I was just guessing at the name. It may have been another Grand Ville or even a Bonneville or Catalina or something similar, but it had a lotta stuff grown up around it and it was hard to tell. But it seemed like it had "Sport" on one the emblems. And it definitely had a Pontiac-blue motor. I may have time to go back out there tomorrow or this weekend and start dismantling/ripping/tearing/cursing, among other things. Ill let yall know what I find out, and thanks again for your advice! Charlie