That's funny, I did not even notice the box they are sitting on. That is an old box, not from these. It is way to small of a box for them to fit into.

The reason their will not be any more of these for quite a while is the person I got these from has to re-tool due to an error in the top rear of the panel. I am curious about the rain gutter issue you speak of. Can you elaborate? Like I said, I have not had time to do a detailed measurement comparison as of yet.

Tell ya what. Find a set of these for sale and a case of your favorite beer is on it's way...