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BEANS...what are they? fruit? vegetable? meat?

one guy says they are classified as meat cause of the protien.

one guys say vegetable cause of no seeds.

i say fruit...cause thats what the song about beans says.

beans the magical fruit? right?


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None of the above, they are seeds.

If planted, they grow...






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Bean is a common name for large plant seeds of several genera of Fabaceae (formerly Leguminosae) used for food or feed. They are also known as legumes.

so SEEDS! not no seeds, they ARE seeds


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beat by a minute!


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You guys are quick but incorrect. The song is correct.... they are a fruit!

Wiko; "Beans, Beans, the Musical Fruit" is a children's song about the flatulence often experienced after eating beans. The song is noteworthy for correctly identifying the bean as a fruit, not a vegetable.

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No, they are a seed.

A fruit contains seeds...






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Originally Posted By catalina
No, they are a seed.

A fruit contains seeds...


Funny. Argue with an encyclopedia! Beans are a fruit that contains seeds. The whole bean is considered the casing containing the seeds, that's what makes it a fruit with seeds. wink

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bean
Three quarters of the way down under Cultural you will see my quote from above.

"Beans, Beans, the Musical Fruit" is a children's song about the flatulence often experienced after eating beans. The song is noteworthy for correctly identifying the bean as a fruit, not a vegetable.

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Yeah, and the first friggin line is:

Bean is a common name for large plant seeds of several genera of Fabaceae (formerly Leguminosae) used for food or feed. They are also known as legumes.





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Originally Posted By Fbody69
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bean
Three quarters of the way down under Cultural you will see my quote from above.

"Beans, Beans, the Musical Fruit" is a children's song about the flatulence often experienced after eating beans. The song is noteworthy for correctly identifying the bean as a fruit, not a vegetable.

sorry ,but you dont plant fruits, you plant their seeds...like apple seeds...beans are the seeds to be planted if you grow beans...
Wiki must be wrong on that one...

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Think about it; You are using tunnel vision to just see the part you usually eat. Think about green beans. They are beans in their whole form with the 'seeds' inside(like all fruit). All beans start out like this until processed. They are a fruit. Musical fruit. You do not believe what you read? That's not my words, it's from the encyclopedia.

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Us "old people" (LOL) ...were always told...That if it grew IN the ground, it was a vegetable...If it grew FROM (out of the ground)..it was a fruit. smile


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but beans also can grow on vines.





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Hey, where did Jim's reply go???





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Originally Posted By Fbody69
Think about it; You are using tunnel vision to just see the part you usually eat. Think about green beans. They are beans in their whole form with the 'seeds' inside(like all fruit). All beans start out like this until processed. They are a fruit. Musical fruit. You do not believe what you read? That's not my words, it's from the encyclopedia.


What about a RAM AIR bean?

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Originally Posted By catalina
Hey, where did Jim's reply go???
It said the same as John said..so I canned it.

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Originally Posted By catalina
but beans also can grow on vines.

Like grapes, fruit.

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Originally Posted By 67 Firebird 400
Us "old people" (LOL) ...were always told...That if it grew IN the ground, it was a vegetable...If it grew FROM (out of the ground)..it was a fruit. smile
Good rule but there are exceptions, one exception is the peanut which grows underground and is a fruit also.

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Originally Posted By Fbody69
Originally Posted By catalina
Hey, where did Jim's reply go???
It said the same as John said..so I canned it.

canned beans, or canned fruit, in which section do we find it in the grocery store?
lol


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Originally Posted By Fbody69
Originally Posted By catalina
but beans also can grow on vines.

Like grapes, fruit.

and the seeds* are inside, *which you plant (unless they are seedless...)


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maybe we should ask the "dee de dee" guy, Carlos Mencia, he may know....LOL


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Heck yeah! That guy is funny! And smart, he would get it right.

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Originally Posted By Fbody69
Think about it; You are using tunnel vision to just see the part you usually eat. Think about green beans. They are beans in their whole form with the 'seeds' inside(like all fruit). All beans start out like this until processed. They are a fruit. Musical fruit. You do not believe what you read? That's not my words, it's from the encyclopedia.

green beans are the beans inside ,but you also eat the 'shell', and called green beans , like in some cases peas, green peas...most cases you 'shell' them...even though the entire plant is called peas, the peas are the seeds....


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Originally Posted By Fbody69
Heck yeah! That guy is funny! And smart, he would get it right.

he`d tell us where the "Beans" are from... grin but he uses a different term...


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Peas are fruit too!

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Originally Posted By Fbody69
Peas are fruit too!

well, it depends if you eat the shelled seeds or just the seeds....

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A pea, although treated as a vegetable in cooking, is botanically a fruit; the term is most commonly used to describe the small spherical seeds or the pods of the legume Pisum sativum.[1] The name is also used to describe other edible seeds from the Fabaceae like the pigeon pea (Cajanus cajan), the cowpea (Vigna unguiculata) and the seeds from several species of Lathyrus.


"the term is most commonly used to describe the small spherical seeds or the pods of the legume Pisum sativum."

when I talk about peas , I dont think of the shelled flatish "fruit" that you sometimes get , I think of the green little roundish 'seeds'..or the hard yellow peas (that we in Sweden make pea soup from, whole peas , not split) ,those would hardly be a fruit!?

LOL

good discussion...

now where do these 'fruits' in SF come from?



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The name is also used to describe other edible seeds from the Fabaceae like the pigeon pea (Cajanus cajan), the cowpea (Vigna unguiculata) and the seeds from several species of Lathyrus.


That's a strange coincidence. Just the other day, my wife asked me what I wanted for dinner, and I said I wanted to eat her Vigna unguiculata, and she slapped me......




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The name is also used to describe other edible seeds from the Fabaceae like the pigeon pea (Cajanus cajan), the cowpea (Vigna unguiculata) and the seeds from several species of Lathyrus.


That's a strange coincidence. Just the other day, my wife asked me what I wanted for dinner, and I said I wanted to eat her Vigna unguiculata, and she slapped me......


no wonder...its a COW pea


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The term bean covers many types (chick, lima, green, wax, etc). Legume refers to a group withing the "bean" group, correct?

Where does rice fit in?

I think each one needs to be categorized accordingly.


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Beans are in the Legume group.... Botanically speaking.

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Rice is a grain, like wheat and oats. Corn is a grain as well, but when it's immature, as it is canned or eaten on the cob, it's considered a vegetable. I suppose if you ate immature rice, it would be a vegetable but it doesn't sound very appetizing to me.

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and the debate continues......! there a seed!


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Here's a definition I found online.

anything that bears or is a seed is considered a fruit.
There are different kinds of fruit, ie nuts are a kind of
fruit. Vegetables are any part of the plant that doesn't have to do with making new plants. Lettuce is a leaf, carrot is a root, celery is a stem.

This makes the distinction some are making between the seeds inside the pod and the pod itself moot.

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Wow, pretty active since I took off for a meeting. Still say they are seeds though. Bjorn has it right.





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ok,here is another one,,,what came first:
1)the chicken
2)the egg?????
here is the next question

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ok, its ALL food! lol
its like the question about difference spices and herbs, but that one is a little easier


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Originally Posted By Fbody69
Funny. Argue with an encyclopedia! Beans are a fruit that contains seeds...


Fruit is what's produced by a plant to reproduce. Nuts are also a fruit. Fruit is a shell for seeds.

Are we trying to take Jim's crown of wasting time away besides trying to end an argument? smile


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beans,beans good for the heart;the more you eat the more you fart

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Originally Posted By 69firebirdman
beans,beans good for the heart;the more you eat the more you fart

in other words , "pressure relief"....


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