Zone 01 Dealer 576 Status: Dealer Name Burt Watson Chevrolet Pontiac Address: 7468 Midland P.O. Box 250 City: Freeland State: MI Zip: Year:
Zone 27 Dealer 999 Status: Unknown Dealer Name Midtown Chev. Pontiac Address: 1775 Broadway City: New York State: NY Zip: Year: 1968 info came off 1968 Corvette Paperwork at Carlisle 2002
Zone 28 Dealer 530 Status: Still in Business Dealer Name DON SCOTT CHEVROLET-PONTIAC INC Address: City: WHITEHOUSE State: OH Zip: Year: 1975 From top right corner of the original window sticker of a 1976 corvette built on Wed. Oct. 1st., 1975. Red/Blk vinyl
Zone 29 Dealer 119 Status: Unknown Dealer Name Ideal Pontiac - Buick Address: City: Newton State: NJ Zip: Year: 1964 Manefest
Dealer 09-278 is Ralph Hocket, Inc., Greenfield, IN Information from my 1964 tri power 4 speed convert GTO
Dealer 29-119 is Ideal Pontiac-Buick, Newton, NJ Information from my 1964 4 v 4 speed convert GTO
I hope this will help some one Don
Zone 29 Dealer 685 Status: Unknown Dealer Name P & S Chev buick Pontiac Address: 1111 m street City: Aurora State: NE Zip: 68818 Year: 1970
Zone 40 Dealer 239 Status: Unknown Dealer Name Pontiac Address: City: State: Other Zip: Year: 06-07-6
Zone 42 Dealer 050 Status: Dealer Name Don Boyer Chevrolet-Pontiac Inc Address: 1281 West Pioneer City: Oak Harbor State: WA Zip: Year: 1967
Zone 95 Dealer 442 Status: Still in Business Dealer Name Marvin Starr Pontiac Buick Address: City: Scarborough State: ON Zip: Year:
Zone S 28 Dealer 530 Status: Still in Business Dealer Name don scott chevrolet-pontiac inc. Address: City: whitehouse State: OH Zip: Year: 1975 from original window sticker of 1976 corvette built on wed. oct. 1, 1975
Hi, I have a 67 warranty book and protect-0-plate from a 67 firebird conv with a dealer code of ( 02-611 ) from dealer ( Star Pontiac, 2582 Hyland Boulevard, Staten Island, N.Y. )
Call Bob Maher at (989)781-0807. He should be able to help you get a copy of the Legend that had printed a pretty thorough list of dealer codes. I think the issue was from March of 1999. You can also e-mail him at gtomaher@worldnet.att.net . Hope this helps.
Quote" I have a 1968 Pontiac Firebird 400. I ordered the original invoice from Pontiac Historical Services. The Dealer code was region 24 and Dealer Number was 143 back in 1968. I wish to know the name of the dealer and location. I know region 24 was Southern California"
Subject: Re: [FGF] zone and dealer codes From: "Glenn Uettwiller" <birdman8@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:06:27 -0500
Just paging through a few dealer invoices and billing cards I have here (probably a dozen) I find at least three codes not on Sean's list. I emailed him with updates.
What prompted me was a recent addition to his list almost at the bottom, about a guy ordering a car through the PX to take delivery when he returned from SE Asia. I had heard such things happened, but had not heard any specific stories. Reason this interested me was my 69 Sprint appears to be one of those cars, and I've been hoping to answer this mystery for many years.
Mine has two dealer codes. The "charge to" is code 79 001, which is GM Overseas Operations, located at 757 5th Ave NY NY. But the "ship to" code is 79 015, not on Sean's list. I never really noticed before, because my invoice is virtually unreadable, and in light of that (and apparently some early 69's still had a billing card) I received a billing card for that car. But even that document is pale, so pale that only the car-specific info can be read. The frame of the form is barely discernable, but not the little titles. When I placed it next to a couple of 68 bc's, I saw what was missing. I was told the car came from upstate New York by the guy Dad bought the car from, he was the father of the second owner and knew very little. Never met the actual owner. This was in 1975.
mine came with the original warrenty book with all the tear out warrenty cards still in the back, you can see where the protectoplate was originally with the book. I need to scan all my info and i'll forward it off to whoever is collecting the data. I had found the build sheet years ago when i replaced the original carpet and was given a bunch of bills and documents passed from the guy who bought the car new to the second owner. Im now the third owner and the car has stayed pretty much untouched. Im really interested to find out if the dealer code 7-859 matches the information on my paperwork. Craig
started discussion on PY board to leverage greater pontiac community also. Please continue to here also, as we have no control as to how long information will remain on PY board.
I dont have any information on zone 6 dealer 75 and Seans site does not have any posted. We will record it here as a mystery to be solved and I will forward it to Sean. Any additional info will be helpful. Geographic, etc.
I think I'm the 4th owner with the orig owner who lived in Maine I believe. Is it poss. to go to sec of state and find out any info I think it would be neat to find the original owner.
Here is what I did to find my original owner and dealer.
I did a title search at the DMV in the state that I had it registered in. About 10$. Gave them current title number and vin and previous title numbers and a copy of the title. Be careful, sometimes people get vin numbers transposed on titles, insurance cards, so be sure to send title number if you have it. They mailed back the records that they had. Repeated this process for three more states until I got back to the original title.
The original title had the manufacturers statement of origin with it which had the dealers name and zone and dealer codes.
Talked with the dealers son who remembered his dad selling car to his best friend in High School. He gave me the phone number of the original owner who was surprised and pleased to hear from me.
Call the state DMV and get instructions for this. Be sure to include return postage and addressed envelope. Be sure to get phone nuber of someone that you can talk to and be real nice to them. This process took several months.
There is some conflicting info. out there. Some sites list zone 01 as Boston, MA (New England states) and others list Michigan. I haven't found my car's dealer yet but I know it was purchased in MA and it is a zone 01 car on my PHS documentation.
Ok , finally got my paperwork scanned, the dealer code (or FCO #) is 035-929. I tried a search but it wasnt there or im blind. Any idea where this dealer is? I also scanned my broadcast sheet, or whats left of it, but it is all readable. The car was sold through a dealer in Coquitlam BC in September 1967 named Trapp Motors. I have another number which looks like a dealer code 7-859 which may be the number for the Coquitlam dealer. Craig
from PY board ============= Roughton Pontiac corp norfolk VA zone : 04 dealer 379 R 70 Judge py board member name
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('74 GTO) 15 767 Stenzel Motors Inc. 11th St. and E. Hwy. 212 Watertown, SD 57201
('70 GTO Judge) 15 342 Heintz Pontiac-Cadillac, Inc. 130 N. 2nd St. Mankato, MN 56001
Also, 27 275 should read... Kramer Motors, Inc. 17th-Ave. B Scottsbluff, NB 69361 and 27 235 should read... Johnson Pontiac, Inc. 1250 So. Nevada Colorado Springs, CO 80901
Found another... ('69 Firebird 400) 15 191 De Vinck Pontiac-Cadillac, Inc. 1525 Broadway Superior, WI 54881
"I have found the dealership and the state of my car. Zone 1 dealership 092. The car was delivered to Brigham-Gill Pontiac Inc., Natick, Mass. They are still in Business"
Anybody know of a Zone 01 dealer 196 in Portland, Maine? It is not on the Ultimate GTO site or info/sites Scott or others have posted.
All the historical zones discussion got me interested in expanding the history info I have on my '68.
My '68 was originally leased for 15 months by a company with HQs in Minneapolis, MN. (I've owned it since 4/69.)
The car was ordered and leased to them by Huber Pontiac in Springfield, Illinois - Zone 12 dealer code 332.
It left manufacture in Lordstown, Ohio on 1/29/68 for delivery to a dealer (unknown) in Portland, Maine – Zone 01, dealer code 196. (I assume the company employee using the vehicle was based there.)
The registration and plates was done in Minnesota. I have the original Mn 68 plates and a copy of the registration.
Info from: Original window sticker, Billing History, copy of original registration, bill of sale, Protect-o-plate, Body Broadcast copy, my memory.
I looked at the codes for mine and i have one that is not on there. mine is code 25 dealer 343. I know that the car was always local and I found out there was a dealership in vancouver washington called Mc Coy pontiac any ideas? I found another dealership in reno called winkel pontiac gmc for those in reno
Have you tried a title search with department of motor vehicles. Perhaps they have manufacturers statement of origin on file or original title information that may yield dealers name? Other than that I am not sure.
Try looking at the sites mentioned in the first few posts of the thread. You have probably already done though. Where do you live?
Zone Dealer 15-116 Status: Unknown Dealer Name Kerbeck Cadillac-Pontiac-Chevrolet Address: 430 North Albany Ave City: Atlantic City State: NJ Zip: 08400 Year: 1996
Zone 01 Dealer 576 Status: Dealer Name Burt Watson Chevrolet Pontiac Address: 7468 Midland P.O. Box 250 City: Freeland State: MI Zip: Year:
Zone 08 Dealer 117 Status: No longer in Business Dealer Name Don Everett Pontiac Address: 1904 Cleveland Road City: Sandusky State: OH Zip: 44870 Year: 1979 This Dealer info is on the build sheet for my 79 Trans Am
Zone 13 Dealer 259 Status: Unknown Dealer Name LANER PONTIAC CO Address: 4235 TROOST AVE. City: KANSAS CITY State: MO Zip: UNKOWN Year: 1968 I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THEY STILL HAVE RECORDS ON MY 1968 EL CAMINO VIN# 138808K129069.I WOULD LIKE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT IS AVAILABLE ON THIS TRUCK. WILLING TO PAY FAIR AMOUNT IF NESSECARY. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP. KIRK J. WESSBECKER P.S. WOULD LIKE THIER E- MAIL ADRESS IF IT IS AVALIABLE. THANKS.
Zone 24 Dealer 293 Status: Unknown Dealer Name savage pontiac company Address: City: monrovia State: CA Zip: Year: 1968
Zone 27 Dealer 999 Status: Unknown Dealer Name Midtown Chev. Pontiac Address: 1775 Broadway City: New York State: NY Zip: Year: 1968 info came off 1968 Corvette Paperwork at Carlisle 2002
Zone 28 Dealer 530 Status: Still in Business Dealer Name DON SCOTT CHEVROLET-PONTIAC INC Address: City: WHITEHOUSE State: OH Zip: Year: 1975 From top right corner of the original window sticker of a 1976 corvette built on Wed. Oct. 1st., 1975. Red/Blk vinyl
Zone 29 Dealer 685 Status: Unknown Dealer Name P & S Chev buick Pontiac Address: 1111 m street City: Aurora State: NE Zip: 68818 Year: 1970
Zone 29 Dealer 119 Status: Unknown Dealer Name Ideal Pontiac - Buick Address: City: Newton State: NJ Zip: Year: 1964 Manefest
Dealer 09-278 is Ralph Hocket, Inc., Greenfield, IN Information from my 1964 tri power 4 speed convert GTO
Dealer 29-119 is Ideal Pontiac-Buick, Newton, NJ Information from my 1964 4 v 4 speed convert GTO
I hope this will help some one Don
Zone 307 Dealer 631 Status: No longer in Business Dealer Name Pontiac Motor Div. Retail Store Address: 65 University Drive City: Pontiac State: MI Zip: 48053 Year: 1969 Building is still there, is now a training center.
Zone 40 Dealer 239 Status: Unknown Dealer Name Pontiac Address: City: State: Other Zip: Year: 06-07-6
Zone 42 Dealer 050 Status: Dealer Name Don Boyer Chevrolet-Pontiac Inc Address: 1281 West Pioneer City: Oak Harbor State: WA Zip: Year: 1967
Zone 81 Dealer 012 Status: Still in Business Dealer Name Maloney Pontiac Buick Address: City: Caslegar State: BC Zip: Year:
Zone 81 Dealer 075 Status: Dealer Name Bob Brown pontiac buick Address: City: Penticton State: BC Zip: Year:
Zone 81 Dealer 013 Status: Still in Business Dealer Name Buchanan Pontiac-Buick Address: City: Chilliwack State: BC Zip: Year:
Zone 95 Dealer 442 Status: Still in Business Dealer Name Marvin Starr Pontiac Buick Address: City: Scarborough State: ON Zip: Year:
Zone S 28 Dealer 530 Status: Still in Business Dealer Name DON SCOTT CHEVROLET, PONTIAC, GEO Address: City: WHITEHOUSE State: OH Zip: 43571 Year: 1975 Zone and dealer code appearing on my original window sticker of a red/blk vinyl 1976 corvette, (#05875), built wed. Oct. 1st 1975. Shipped Oct. 2nd to above dealer along with a white corvette.
Zone S 28 Dealer 530 Status: Still in Business Dealer Name don scott chevrolet-pontiac inc. Address: City: whitehouse State: OH Zip: Year: 1975 from original window sticker of 1976 corvette built on wed. oct. 1, 1975
scott, I live in portland oregon, When i bought the firebird in the 90,s the seller siad its from vancover wash. that all I know. I found a licence plate cover with McCcoy pontiac on it. and another pair from reno with a pontiac dealership on them also. thanks for the advise.
Gabe Musser--General Manager, New Car Sales--of 21 305 Musser Motor, 1212 W. Moore Ave, Terrell, TX, rocks!
I know I suffer from great shortsight, lack compassion, and a long list of other negs. So forgive me when I ask: exactly what contribution does dealer zone/number make in the never ending quest for knowledge?
Received my PHS documents and have my dealer code. This code wasn't on any other site I had looked at, nor in any of the posts. I hope it helps others ID their original dealer.
Zone 11 Dealer 467 Taber Motors INC. Beaver Dam, Wisconsin
Amervo, I was able to use my dealer zone code to find the name of the dealer. Once I did that I picked up the phone and called directory assistance. I talked to the son (now owner) of the dealership owner and he remembered the car because it belonged to his friend (original owner) and gave me his phone number. He was the same person listed on the original title. That is how knowing the the zone code helped me.
Wow, took a look again today after a number of years and my dealer has finally been identified.
That makes my day.
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hi, just got my phs packet, meaning to do it for years, zone is 23 san francisco, dealer is 407, can't seem to find anything on this dealer code, any ideas.
Also added a way to submit more information for research just below the Dealer Zone Code data. Included links to the Wallace Racing branch and Ultimate Pontiac GTO Picture Site branch of the research going into researching these codes.
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