Boy, these Pontiac engines are getting more puzzling by the day!
On the rear oil pan seal for a 68 400, the only one that fits around the main cap is the one that has the five nibs sticking out. What do I do with these?
The instructions aren't making any sense. They say this particular gasket for 59-71 doesn't have the nibs. The other, for 72-76, has two nibs and a center cone-shaped nib. It also says the 72-76 is called the 1st design.
My oil pan doesn't have slots for these nibs. Do I cut them off?
it also should have come with a cork , or rubber strip gasket that has no nibs it will fit in that area. if so use it and seal it to the oil pan with rtv.
Early engine blocks have a groove in the rear main cap that holds the cork gasket.
This groove was eliminated in 72 in favor of the 3 nib design rubber gasket and matching oil pans. This design basically sucked and was replace in 76 with the "2nd" design 5 nib that suffered way less blowouts.
Unfortuately, GM still holds the patent on the 2nd design so all aftermarket oil pans are stuck using the 3 nub gasket.
2012 Mustang Boss 302 #1918, Competition Orange. FGF replacement 2006 Mustang V6 Pony, Vista Blue. Factory ordered. 2019 BMW X3 (Titled to the wife, but I'm always driving it for her. So I'm claiming it) Old projects, gone but not forgotten: 1967 FB 400, original CA car. After 22 years of work, trashed by the guy who was supposed to paint it. I had to sell it. 1980 Turbo Trans Am 1970 Mustang fastback, 351C 4Bbl, auto 1988 Mustang GT, 5 speed 1983 F-150 4x4, built 302 1994 Chevy K2500 HD 4x4, 454 TBI
Or yet another option, use the really nice BOP 1-piece oil pan gasket.
2012 Mustang Boss 302 #1918, Competition Orange. FGF replacement 2006 Mustang V6 Pony, Vista Blue. Factory ordered. 2019 BMW X3 (Titled to the wife, but I'm always driving it for her. So I'm claiming it) Old projects, gone but not forgotten: 1967 FB 400, original CA car. After 22 years of work, trashed by the guy who was supposed to paint it. I had to sell it. 1980 Turbo Trans Am 1970 Mustang fastback, 351C 4Bbl, auto 1988 Mustang GT, 5 speed 1983 F-150 4x4, built 302 1994 Chevy K2500 HD 4x4, 454 TBI
It ties all 4 separate gaskets together so there should be a lot less concern about leaks were the 4 gaskets meet (usually where wise Pontiac engine builders put a dab of silicone)
The side rail sections are reinforced with metal. The rear seal is a combo design that allows this gasket to work with both the ealier rear caps for cork gaskets and the 1st design with 3 tabs (just cut the tabs off for a early application).
2012 Mustang Boss 302 #1918, Competition Orange. FGF replacement 2006 Mustang V6 Pony, Vista Blue. Factory ordered. 2019 BMW X3 (Titled to the wife, but I'm always driving it for her. So I'm claiming it) Old projects, gone but not forgotten: 1967 FB 400, original CA car. After 22 years of work, trashed by the guy who was supposed to paint it. I had to sell it. 1980 Turbo Trans Am 1970 Mustang fastback, 351C 4Bbl, auto 1988 Mustang GT, 5 speed 1983 F-150 4x4, built 302 1994 Chevy K2500 HD 4x4, 454 TBI
Now it's starting to make sense. I'll have to check the set again to see if there is another "non-nibbed" gasket.
The 5 nibbed gasket seems to fit. If this is all I have available, I should be able to cut them off and use a little RTV on the surface?
OK, I found the cork gasket. I was looking for rubber. (Another Chevy mindset) It seems a little too long, but the instructions say to use an adhesive to hold it down. I think it's long to compress fully into the pan groove, correct?
I'm still wondering if the 5-nibbed rubber one might still work, if it stays in place.
Now, I just discovered that the gasket set included two right side gaskets, no left side! So, I went and bought a pan gasket set. I'm not going to wait another week before the machine shop can get another set in!
The BOP 1-piece gasket is a "godsend". It really DOES "work". It fits all three "designs" (the cork strip is far and away the BEST of the factory designs).
I posted a procedure for this on Bill Boyle's site (pontiacstreetperformance.com) where you asked the same question. I have recently sent Bill an "article" I wrote concerning "sealing up" the whole Pontiac engine, and what pitfalls to avoid. He has not yet put it "up".
Cudos to Wade @ BOP. We talked to Felpro about 6 years ago about making us a 1-piece gasket. They said if they could sell 100K a year, they would "tool up". No chance of that... So Wade "bit the bullet" and is now supplying a choice piece, and for only a few dollars more than Felpro's BBC and SBC offerings.
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2012 Mustang Boss 302 #1918, Competition Orange. FGF replacement 2006 Mustang V6 Pony, Vista Blue. Factory ordered. 2019 BMW X3 (Titled to the wife, but I'm always driving it for her. So I'm claiming it) Old projects, gone but not forgotten: 1967 FB 400, original CA car. After 22 years of work, trashed by the guy who was supposed to paint it. I had to sell it. 1980 Turbo Trans Am 1970 Mustang fastback, 351C 4Bbl, auto 1988 Mustang GT, 5 speed 1983 F-150 4x4, built 302 1994 Chevy K2500 HD 4x4, 454 TBI