Anyone have any experience or luck fixing one? I know I have 12v to it, bit no ticky no clocky.

If it is like the '68 clock, the clock does not really "run" off the +12 v. There is a winding mechanism in the clock that gets a hit of +12v to wind it every minute or so. Often, the electrical windings on the coil/solenoid "winder" (no pun intended) burn out. I got mine fixed at Clockworks. Many people get the mechanical works replaced with a modern quartz movement. I'm on my third coil/solenoid now over 42 years (including many years of letting it just not work). While it is possible to tell if it has the original or quartz movement when it is operating, I may go with the quartz next time my fails.



http://www.clockwks.com/The_Clock_Worx.html

Agreed. Ditch the ancient technology and have a quartz conversion done.

I highly recommend these guys:

D & M Restoration

I also had mine redone w quartz...from these guys....highly recommend them
http://www.clockwks.com/The_Clock_Worx.html

Cool, what was the turn around time and rough cost?

Yeah, once they are toast, they are toast. Quartz conversion is the way to go. What makes you nuts is the conversion piece costs these guys probably bout $3.50 but they will sell it to you for around $75. Ridiculous buy they have you buy the nuts because you will not find one anywhere that will work as they have to be dead on for the unit etc. There is a guy on Ebay who sells the Quartz conversion unit with the instructions quite often. To send them out, shipping, the long turn around time etc. is not worth the $150 they are charging to do the job IMO!

I've done them myself and they take minutes to do. Pretty much anyone with patience and some small screw drivers and a clean bench can do the job. It amazes me what these guys are charging as I said, these small Quartz movements coming from over seas are small plastic pieces and my guess is they cost less than $5 at MOST!

IIRC the Clockworks has prices on their website...think mine was about $90 and took 2-3 weeks including shipping there and back.

I just sent one to Clockworks. They had it back to me within a week with a 1 year warranty for $50.

Was that a mechanical restoration or the quartz conversion?

It was mechanical restoration. I will probably be sorry I didn't convert it.

I just got an online price quote request from www.CLOCKWKS.COM for the quartz conversion. $149.95 plus $13 return shipping.

Incredible. Hard to believe they can sleep at night. I've had these conversion units in my hand and I am telling you they look like something out of a toy. If they cost these guys more than $3 each I'd be shocked!

One common problem with the original set up on these types of clocks is that the contacts (looking like ignition points) gets burned. In my experience (on other GM clocks, not Firebird ones, but the design is similar), sanding the contact points can get the clock working. If the solenoid coil is fried though, this will not help.
It will only cost you some work, so it might be something to consider before you try the more costly options.

If you want precision though, a quartz conversion is the way to go. The original works doesn't hold the time very well.

Ronnie Stensson
Sweden

Re Clockworks cost.....its incredible how much price has gone up in the last 9 years...whereas my salary has stayed the same. My income must be about 60-65% of what it used to be, taking in inflation ,based on that comparison

Must be part of that income-redistribution 'change' someone was yapping about. Might be time to move to Panama.

might be....November might tell...btw , I`m going to Panama again March 15th for 11 days.....my third research trip....if I could only get the wife to go visit....o well.

Yikes... Clockworks is looking like a deal. Just got an online quote back from D&M restoration. Quartz conversion $185-$225

guess its part of "Hope and Change"....at least it Changed...but, theres no hope! lol

D & M's price quotes include fixing up the clock face and generally refurbishing every part.

What a joke, unreal. All they do is take the thing apart, clean it up, pop in the Quartz conversion and put it back together. The entire conversion and "restoration" probably takes them a whopping 15 mins, if that! What a rip off if there ever was one!

dont you wish you had a bus. like that!?

What do you guys think of this?:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Borg-Clock-Quartz-Conversion-Repair-Kit-I-3035-ONE-YEAR-GUARANTEE-/270916535762?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3AFirebird&vxp=mtr&hash=item3f13e245d2
Do-it-yourself conversion seems much cheaper.

Cant seem to get copy/paste link to work... sorry.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Borg-Clock-Quart...=item3f13e245d2

I always use the keyboard. Highlight the text you want to copy, press Ctrl+C to copy. Use Ctrl+V to paste into field

I've been in touch with these guys (omicronclock) since posting this. According to them. The 67 Console clock.

"was manufactured by General Time or Westclox and no one makes a kit for either of those two manufacturers. However, we can retrofit a Borg quartz conversion kit into this clock for you or repair the mechanical movement for this clock."

Quartz conversion would be $179 plus shipping. This also includes refinishing the hands the correct colors (if needed). Repair is $52.50 plus parts and refinishing.

My clock runs fast. About 15 min every 24 hours, so I have to reset it often. It's an early 68 made by general time so no quartz conversion available as mentioned above. As much as I would like to have the time correct, there is no way I'm paying $179. That's just crazy. Wonder what all is involved in retrofitting a Borg movement into this? The body, hands and face are all the same, so what's the difference.
Kind of like steering turn signal switches.... the column housings are the same, doesnt matter which signal switch you put in (boyne or delco).

That's the $179 question.

ClockWorks told me the same thing.

"There is no simple retrofit quartz movement available for your General Time clock. It requires a custom quartz conversion involving some parts fabrication and custom assembly. The cost for this is $149.95."

Personally I think they are full of crap and anyone of us could do this conversion ourselves in the matter of minutes. I can not see how it could possibly be so difficult. I've had these clocks apart, fixed them (when others have said they were unrepairable) and I have also installed a conversion kit myself although it was for a 67 GTO clock but I think they are pretty much all the exact same clocks and it took me minutes to do the conversion including painting the hands the correct color!

These guys are trying desperately to justify their outrageous prices IMHO!

Although I have doubted it really works well, I had read that, based on the corrections you make to the time, they are supposed to be self adjusting.

I've taken mine apart and from what I can tell the coils are toast. They have some blackening on the coils.

I can push on the "points" and all the gears and hands start tic toc-ing away.

So, can I buy coils or do I need to send it off for repair?

Earlybird nailed it right on the head. When you hold the quartz replacement movement in your hand it is hard to see more then $5 or $10 in value. I paid $60 for mine 5-6 years ago. It took probably 15 minutes to install once I had the clock out of the dash. I have to admit that it works well (knock on wood).
When I bought the mechanical clock for my '69 it worked OK. After being in for about a month it quit. When I pulled it out to see what the problem was I saw that the plastic had shattered from the action of the winder being thrown open after the points made contact. I guess 40+ year old plastic parts get brittle.

I've seen these clocks come back from being reworked and STILL NOT keep time. In fact, AFTER you get them back from the place that restores your clock, they will put a little slip of paper in the box informing you that the clock will most likely not keep proper time due to mfg flaws as per the original mfg specs. You can't blame the guy who "restores" it for you as the clocks didn't keep time from the day they were built, so they restore them to mfg specs which means, they will not keep time.

The only way to make them work properly, aka keep time, is a Quartz conversion!

I've decided to bite the bullet and go the quartz route. Basically comes down to $80 for new coils vs. $150 for quartz conversion.

In theory the quartz should last forever. The old... pay me now or pay me later.

Pretty much what it always comes down to it seems...

I found a new in box GM NOS clock for mine, complete with new harness and instructions on eBay, cost: a mere 325.00 !!

But its original and works great

Keeps time? Wow, what a find. You must have the only one that ever actually worked properly. Very cool!

Anyone know which Quartz Conversion kit to buy to retrofit a '68 console clock?

Anyone tried this yet?

I tried to find the "do it yourself kit" never did find it. Just go to www.CLOCKWKS.COM

$150 done deal. One week turn around when I did it.