Is it just me or do those [censored] aftermarket 400-4, 326-4, 455-4, etc Buick-style air cleaner decals drive you crazy? I see them so often now and sometimes on really nicely restored cars. I fear that some folks don't realize that they NEVER came on any Pontiacs and are under the false belief that they did. Buicks had these on their engines and the aftermarket has been selling them with the Pontiac arrowhead and engine callouts for years. It really drives me nuts to see them. Especially on high end cars.
Is it just me or do those [censored] aftermarket 400-4, 326-4, 455-4, etc Buick-style air cleaner decals drive you crazy? I see them so often now and sometimes on really nicely restored cars. I fear that some folks don't realize that they NEVER came on any Pontiacs and are under the false belief that they did. Buicks had these on their engines and the aftermarket has been selling them with the Pontiac arrowhead and engine callouts for years. It really drives me nuts to see them. Especially on high end cars.
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2012 Mustang Boss 302 #1918, Competition Orange. FGF replacement 2006 Mustang V6 Pony, Vista Blue. Factory ordered. 2019 BMW X3 (Titled to the wife, but I'm always driving it for her. So I'm claiming it) Old projects, gone but not forgotten: 1967 FB 400, original CA car. After 22 years of work, trashed by the guy who was supposed to paint it. I had to sell it. 1980 Turbo Trans Am 1970 Mustang fastback, 351C 4Bbl, auto 1988 Mustang GT, 5 speed 1983 F-150 4x4, built 302 1994 Chevy K2500 HD 4x4, 454 TBI
Personally I wish that Pontiac did have something like this as it adds more detail under the hood. When I used to work with first generation big block Camaros I always thought that the crossed flags with the 396 and horsepower rating underneath looked great on the air cleaners.
Hey - I still have a NOS decal for my old (sold long ago) 351 Cleveland 4Bbl (Ford).
Think I could start a new trend?
2012 Mustang Boss 302 #1918, Competition Orange. FGF replacement 2006 Mustang V6 Pony, Vista Blue. Factory ordered. 2019 BMW X3 (Titled to the wife, but I'm always driving it for her. So I'm claiming it) Old projects, gone but not forgotten: 1967 FB 400, original CA car. After 22 years of work, trashed by the guy who was supposed to paint it. I had to sell it. 1980 Turbo Trans Am 1970 Mustang fastback, 351C 4Bbl, auto 1988 Mustang GT, 5 speed 1983 F-150 4x4, built 302 1994 Chevy K2500 HD 4x4, 454 TBI
I think your boss was aking me about that last week. Told him you were a tough guy to motivate...
I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure. I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe. 1968 400 convertible (Scarlet) 1976 T/A - 455 LE (No Burt) 1976 T/A New baby, starting full restoration. 1968 350 - 4 speed 'vert - 400 clone (the Beast!) 1968 350 convertible - Wife's car now- 400 clone (Aleutian Blue) (Blue Angel) 2008 Durango - DD 2008 GXP - New one from NH is AWESOME! 2017 Durango Citadel - Modern is nice! HEMI is amazing! 1998 Silverado Z71 - Father-daughter project 1968 400 coupe - R/A clone (Blue Pearl) (sold) 1967 326 convertible - Sold 1980 T/A SE Bandit - Sold
Agreed. My 400 is built beyond Ram Air standards and I really like the 400-4 RAM AIR sticker on mine too. Not to mention the Trans Am fender pieces and spoiler. If it was an all original numbers matching car it would be a different story.
Well if someone had a numbers matching, near perfect, concourse ready car and wanted to put a sticker on it that's his business. I suppose someone could buy it from him/her and take the sticker off. I don't personally like large dia wheels with skinny low profile tires on them but if someone else wants to put them on their bird, go for it.
If it bothers someone to see a sticker on an air cleaner they'd really freak out looking at the wiring under my hood, maybe start to black out noticing the aluminium rad and electric fans, and most likely keel-over backwards at the sight of the KRE heads. I'd hate to think what would happen if, while laying on the ground beside the car, they happen to see the TKO-600 under there.
I think the point here is not being against modifications to our vehicles.
I believe what we are complaining about is a set of air cleaner decals that "experts" put on cars because somebody (incorrectly) told them they are supposed to be there when their goal is total factory correct. People are not doing their homework.
I get a kick out of that car insurance commercial where the woman tells the man that what she heard "must be true" because she read it on the Internet. "They can't post anything on the Internet if it isn't true".
Then her "french model" date shows up.
2012 Mustang Boss 302 #1918, Competition Orange. FGF replacement 2006 Mustang V6 Pony, Vista Blue. Factory ordered. 2019 BMW X3 (Titled to the wife, but I'm always driving it for her. So I'm claiming it) Old projects, gone but not forgotten: 1967 FB 400, original CA car. After 22 years of work, trashed by the guy who was supposed to paint it. I had to sell it. 1980 Turbo Trans Am 1970 Mustang fastback, 351C 4Bbl, auto 1988 Mustang GT, 5 speed 1983 F-150 4x4, built 302 1994 Chevy K2500 HD 4x4, 454 TBI
I apologize for my last reply to this thread. As soon as I pushed the submit button I realized it was a "did I say that out loud" moment. Someone who doesn't like non-stock things on cars has just as much right to express his/her opinion as those who don't mind non-stock things. When I bought my car it was non-stock so I went that way,but if it was all stock I most likely would have tried to keep it stock. Once again, my apologies. Al
I have a similar "pet peeve" on late model Mustangs (I own one).
For some reason everybody out there, including now Ford, is putting sequential tail lights on Mustangs.
Sequential tail lights, IMHO, is NOT a Mustang styling cue. It dates back to Shelby Mustangs that used tail lights raided from the Cougar and Thunderbird parts bins.
So, sequential tail lights are really and Cougar or T-Bird styling cue - NOT Mustangs. Perhaps for Shelby Mustangs...
It's all just personnal taste. I like the look of 3 and 5 Series BMW's. My wife thinks they "look cheap". And she cannot describe "looks cheap".
2012 Mustang Boss 302 #1918, Competition Orange. FGF replacement 2006 Mustang V6 Pony, Vista Blue. Factory ordered. 2019 BMW X3 (Titled to the wife, but I'm always driving it for her. So I'm claiming it) Old projects, gone but not forgotten: 1967 FB 400, original CA car. After 22 years of work, trashed by the guy who was supposed to paint it. I had to sell it. 1980 Turbo Trans Am 1970 Mustang fastback, 351C 4Bbl, auto 1988 Mustang GT, 5 speed 1983 F-150 4x4, built 302 1994 Chevy K2500 HD 4x4, 454 TBI
I'm also not putting anyone down either but just stating my feelings on the issue. What I mean is that personally if I had a numbers matching all original car I'd keep it that way. Unfortunately mine is not so I have taken some liberties such as adding the Trans Am fender treatment and spoiler as well as a 400-4V RAM AIR sticker on the air cleaner. Also one heck of a beast of a modified 400!! For the most part I am trying to keep an original appearance such as the Rally wheels. No 18" rims or bicycle tires up front either.
Ah, come on Dave, don't be a panzy, you've come so far already.(just bustin your b@lls) There will always be two schools of thought: Stock and Non-stock. It's all personal preference. Quite alot I find myself walking away from a car at a show just shaking my head because of what somebody has done to their car. I never voice my opinion right then because it's not mine and I don't want to offend. Not often, but sometimes, I see something kind of innovative that amazes me that it would be on such a heap. I have to say I'm not big on car badges of any kind. Seems kind of braggy. If I want to know what it is I'll ask. JMO.
Man you got me right in the crotch and knocked me on the floor!! I'm with you. There are some extremely cool heavily modified classics but overall I find the older I get the more I appreciate a vintage car that is still overall "correct" but being in the electronics industry I do appreciate innovation. A sticker really doesn't bug me nearly as much as butchery of a classic car.
nothing is 'butchered;' on my car...stickers can peel off, Maro spoiler can come off, Buick rims ,easy...the non matching Pontiac 400 can be replaced...still have orig interior , original metal all around the car with exception of a replaced fender and the 400 hood...fairlyeasy to make orig. if wanted...its either stuck on or bolted on...lol
By butchery I was not referring to adding pieces that can easily be removed or replaced or upgrading our engines. That is just customizing which we are all entitled to do to our cars since they are ours and primarily we really are the only people we need to please with our own vehicles. Are you going to be headed to the Motor Speedway in Ft Worth next weekend for the Goodguys Show?
Dave, no problem , I understand the 'butchery' piece...just wanted to clarify a bit....sorry , no can go to FtW next weekend...got to work both days...I think there 'may' be some from here going , not sure...but also we do have the local St Patricks day parade we are invited to, I know we have lots of shows coming up...I have 'reserved' the 23rd for APAs show in Galvestonand 6 ,7 April for our Corpus cruise...seems I`ll be workin all the others