Hi all. Well after extensive research using various parts books, literature and other internet related sources I still have doubts about the correct original distributor part numbers for the following birds::
1967 /326 engine/2bbl/automatic/smog pump/ distributor number 1111199 1968/350 engine/2bbl/automatic/ distributor number 1111165 1968/400 engine/4bbl/automatic/ac/ distributor number 1111270
I have conflicting info regarding the above distributor numbers............... Can any one confirm and substantiate which numbers are in fact correct? Also-whilst on the subject of distributors:
Can any one confirm if the following vacuum advance cans/control are correct for the above mentioned distributors: Distributor 1111199 vacuum control # 1973410 delco/nappa/standard/sorensen equivalent????????????????? Distributor 1111165 vacuum control # 1115365 delco/nappa/standard/sorensen equivalent????????????????? Distributor 1111270 vacuum control # 1973412 delco/nappa/standard/sorensen equivalent?????????????????
Also (heres a good one for you numbers guys) would anyone know by chance what codes/markings-stampings was on the original vacuum controls-from factory? for each of the ones mentioned above?????????? If in fact the above distributors are correct? I am led to believe that the stamping is along the lines of : the last 3 numbers of the vacuum control- then a number either 20-15? which indicated the vacuum advance degrees pull maximum- eg vacuum control # 1973412 would have a stamping ID of M (?) 412 then 11(?) I am not totally sure of this???????????????????
Just so everyone knows: I have used the following catalogs/parts books to do my past research- and it seems I am going around in circles? Joe Moores -Pontiac Firebird Guide- Orignal Pontiac Parts catalog 1968 Pontiac service manual- page 6E-25 AMA SPECS FROM FIRSTGENBIRD SITE FIRSTGENSITE.COM engine code page http://thefirstgensite.com/html/enginecodes.htm
Looking forward to hear every ones input and opinion. All the best Claude from downunder
the 67 326 with A.I>R is correct but with your 68 there are three different listings in this catalog. Just a 350/2bb/ then a 350/2bbl with 3 hoses and then a 350/2bbl with 5 hoses
FWIW I have recently found that a different catalog from this one (67-74???) has different GM numbers in it. I would suggest looking into getting one or both of these catalogs and searching the parts numbers that way.
Hopefully someone else will chime in an tell us which of these catalogs is gtg or if one is Canadian or some [censored] thing?
Thanks for your input. I think we are going to need input from others to confirm and answer some of my questions. I am not quite sure who is in fact the numbers person on the forum......................but surely someone has to put their hand up on this one.............. Come on guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for your input. I think we are going to need input from others to confirm and answer some of my questions. I am not quite sure who is in fact the numbers person on the forum......................but surely someone has to put their hand up on this one.............. Come on guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had to buy quite a few parts books and help others for years before they came back and dug through their books to help me. My experience .......
I am very shocked to hear that Moores book has many mistakes........................ I have been relying on his book quite a lot in the past.............................. I did find a few mistakes in his book...............but it sounds like theres more than I think...................or know?
In a nutshell........................I still eagerly await every ones input.................................to my previous questions................ I guess a good start point is to use the Pontiac/Gm parts manual................and then compare the numbers in them to other sources?????????????????? Presuming the parts catalog are correct......................................I might have to hunt down a delco remy parts book................ I think at least this might help?????????????? Anyone out there have a delco remy parts book....................say .......................to 1969 parts??????????
Have you tired the www.thefirstgensite.com go to library and search out the year. Most of the service manuals from GM lists the engine and distributor that came with them: the 230 cu in. 165 HP ZK,ZN used dizzy # 1110396 165 HP ZS,ZM used dizzy # 1110391 I could go on and type the whole list but it's best for you to research it out and for the most the part numbers are good. You will not find these numbers in a NAPA store or Auto Zone, they were GM delco and yu should be able to locate them used.
I have been to the site you mentioned in the past................... I have also used the GM parts catalog to cross reference..................
I am stuck on an issue. The firstgen site for engine codes for 1968 shows the YJ engine- 350- (2bbl) both for automatic and manual cars as having 1111281 as the distributor. Moores book shows that 1111281 distributor is for a manual transmission whilst distributor 1111165 is for an automatic.
The firstgen site for engine codes for 1967 shows distributor 1111165 as being for both manual and automatic for a 326 engine.
Hollanders: page 79-402 shows 1111165 distributor as being for 67 firebird 8cyl-326-2bc-without A.I.R 1111165 distributor as being for 68 firebird 8 cyl- 350- 2bc-auto trans- with 3 hose vacuum harness.
1111281 distributor as being for 67 bird-8cyl-326-4bc-with A.I.R 1111281 distributor as being for 68 bird-8cyl-350-2bc-MANUAL TRANS 1111281 distributor as being for 68 bird-8cyl-350-2bc-auto trans- with 5 hose vacuum harness.
So if I am reading all of this correct- then it all comes down to the question of if my vehicle originally had a 5 hose vacuum harness or a 3 hose vacuum harness????????? This would decide which distributor is factory correct for my vehicle? The question I have now if all the above is correct- is what determined the use of a 5 hose or a 3 hose from the factory???? Emissions?
I am slowly going to nut this one out............................more input please peoples! Please.
