Of course, the key question here is would I sell my 'bird or 'birds? The answer to that is no, so I haven't really thought about it...
1968 400 Coupe, verdoro green, black vinyl top 1968 400 Convertible, verdoro green, black top 1971 Trans Am, cameo white, auto 1970 Buick Skylark Custom Convertible 350-4(driver)
I go to BJ every year as well as all the other auctions going off around here at that time. Barrett does have nicer cars and it is ultimately up to the buyer and how bad they want the car.
Anyone see the green 68 rally stripe car at Mecum today? That car gets around the country. Friend used to own it here. Sold today for $29,000. Which is double what he lost it for.
1968 400 Coupe, verdoro green, black vinyl top 1968 400 Convertible, verdoro green, black top 1971 Trans Am, cameo white, auto 1970 Buick Skylark Custom Convertible 350-4(driver)
I have a couple of buddies that sell a bunch of cars at BJ. Based on what I know, I would NEVER buy a car through them.
Your buddies or BJ? I kid, I kid. Just like my comment about the sticker saying Ram Air...
1968 400 Coupe, verdoro green, black vinyl top 1968 400 Convertible, verdoro green, black top 1971 Trans Am, cameo white, auto 1970 Buick Skylark Custom Convertible 350-4(driver)
I found mine in the Colorado Springs Thrifty Nickel. No joke!
I got mine from RacingJunk.com.
Ad: car is a numbers matching (((((((((((((RARE 400 ho))) auto (((air car))) with power top power windows car is a nice looking car not rusty very clean under side and no rust showing on body i dont have the orig carb or ac pump rest is all with it car has had 1 repaint and looks nice
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I can't say I would never buy at auction because some cars do slip through at a good no reserve price. You just have to do your homework beforehand and remember to figure in the buyers premium and sales tax on top of your bid.
My problem with auction cars is that you can't do any diligence beforehand. Can't drive em, can't take em to your mechanic, nothing.
My main mechanic here in Scottsdale, who works on a ton of high end vintage cars, says he always tells guys when they are looking at an auction car to add 20-30% to the price for the inevitable surprises.
Plus, I've had the benefit of knowing what some sellers basis is and how they lipstick their pigs for sale. Other than the super high end well documented collector cars, seems to me like the only one doing well at BJ is Craig Jackson.
like buying a car sight unseen off the Internet is any different
My question is focused on the selling. Who cares if you bought it off Racing rust buckets. If you properly inspect it then there is no issue.
What I'm saying is why would you want to SELL it at that auction house when they constantly get poor returns for their PONTIAC customers. I enjoy watching BJ as well, but it's a Ford & Chevy show for what I can see.
When I open the page I see a car that was up for auction in 2012.
1968 400 Coupe, verdoro green, black vinyl top 1968 400 Convertible, verdoro green, black top 1971 Trans Am, cameo white, auto 1970 Buick Skylark Custom Convertible 350-4(driver)
In other words, we'll be doing a lot of looking but not a lot of finding.
1968 400 Coupe, verdoro green, black vinyl top 1968 400 Convertible, verdoro green, black top 1971 Trans Am, cameo white, auto 1970 Buick Skylark Custom Convertible 350-4(driver)
The nice thing about selling at auction is you eliminate the tire kickers and have an instant sale on auction day with a certified check in hand. I can tell you when I sold my '67 a couple years ago I think I got full dollar for it at Mecum. It has gone up since and I wish I never sold it but I got what I wanted at the time. You do have a nervous few hours waiting for it to cross the block on auction day but once the hammer drops you are out of the car and have a check in your hand.
Also remember; most cars at auction are dealer cars and they are unloading a block of cars at once. For whatever reason it is a way of clearing inventory for them.
As far as poor returns, look at some of the sky high prices that GTO's sell for at auction. Would you pay $115k for a '67 GTO? I know I wouldn't. I think your issue is with some Chevy and Fords having a higher value than some Pontiacs.
My buddies that sell at BJ are pretty convinced they get the most $$ there. Seems to be something rich guys are proud of - overpaying at BJ. I don't get it, but whatever works that way.
Haven't really looked at Pontiac vs Chevy / Ford. Agree with the above poster, I think its probably better for dealers than one off sellers. I do like watching BJ though because all the cars are no reserve.
My buddies that sell at BJ are pretty convinced they get the most $$ there. Seems to be something rich guys are proud of - overpaying at BJ. I don't get it, but whatever works that way.
Haven't really looked at Pontiac vs Chevy / Ford. Agree with the above poster, I think its probably better for dealers than one off sellers. I do like watching BJ though because all the cars are no reserve.
Do any of these "rich buddies" have hot single daughters or lonely wives? Daddy needs some of that richness flavor to get me some more Pontiac stuff.
The car went to a father and son who live in the Scottsdale area. They are true Firebird guys and the perfect buyer for this car. We talked in length before the sale about how solid and clean this car is. ( I spent a month under the car cleaning off 45 years of grime.) I think their plan is to continue the clean up and to just drive and enjoy it. We discussed how the carb might need a little work to smooth it out at idle and they were looking forward to playing with it. It sold on Sunday afternoon, it was on TV and got a small feature while waiting in the staging lanes. The whole experience was an absolute blast. The buyers got a great car and I had fun selling it. I had some reservations about selling such a nice car. When I first started cleaning under the car and found original factory overspray I was hooked...
Andyp. I was following all the FGF's and posting on our Midwest Firebirds Facebook site. You car looked fantastic and it got alot of attention from our people. It looked like a nice correct restoration, great looking interior and love the extra touch of the Gardner exhaust. You should be very proud of the car.
Thanks. The car wasn't perfect (well, the body is) but the restoration was pretty simple. Just clean, restore or replace existing parts that were on the car. The guys that bought it will be able to take it to the next level without a lot of additional cost. Or they can just drive it as is. The Gardener exhaust was awesome. It bolted right up and transformed the undercarriage. The car was a daily driver for most of it's life. Now real Firebird guys own it, I hope to see it down the road someday. Andy