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#296889 03/29/15 09:14 PM
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Now that we're putting the car back together after the body shop, questions are coming up.

*The front and rear shocks should be what color?

*What brand/type of trunk paint have you found best?

*Does anyone have photos of vinyl top trim clips in place before the trim is put on?

*How is the tail lamp wire harness secured to the top edge of the trunk lid opening on the left side? Clips available?
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*The front and rear shocks should be what color?
Like a dove grey

*What brand/type of trunk paint have you found best?
I used eastwoods black Aqua splatter with a mat clear coat

*How is the tail lamp wire harness secured to the top edge of the trunk lid opening on the left side? Clips available?

The harness goes along the bottom of the tail panel. It is secured with clips. It routes up the driver side on top of the wheel well. The clip get taped onto the harness cover and plug into the metal. Similar picture attached.

I should have plenty of pics in my gallery.
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Thanks, Harold! Grey shocks it will be. I'll find some of the wire harness "T" clips. Eastwood sounds good for the trunk paint.

I think I found the needed info on the vinyl top trim clips. Only three studs are missing on our car--I found the holes under the vinyl. Clips slide over the studs.

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A couple pics during disassembly of my '68. Rear harness ran over the inner wheelhouse and under the tail light housing. If you look close where there is tape on the harness is where there are the little plastic pins which hold it in place.

http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/davids...dnefax.jpg.html

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Here's some pics of original wiring and original splatter paint in the trunk. Sorry, it's not as clean as some of your nicely restored cars. hehe.









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I thought somebody made the "correct" spray color for the original spiral shocks. I thought it was Eastwood's but it might be Classic Industries.


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Eastwood makes it but can not find it on their site. I found it on Ames Performance site.

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Agreed. I could not find it at Eastwood's either.


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We ordered the Ames trunk paint.

Thanks for the wire harness routing info. I thought it went to the top of the rear quarter and then down to the lights. The pictures make more sense. Who sells the plastic "Tees"?


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We got the bumper installed and tail lamps with restored housings, side marker lights, repaired wiring to the tail lamp sockets (metal ones).

Next step is to pull the axles and refinish the brake backing plates and axle housing cover. It's a Chev 8.5 rear end, so we need to remove the C-clips to get the axles out and backing plates off. Also need to check tooth contact on the 4.11 ring/pinion. Owner remembers the rear end whined when last driven.
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How much fluid (75W90) does the rearend hold? Which limited slip additive is best?

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I see Valvoline and Amsoil make differential lube with the limited slip additive already in it. I bought Valvoline, as Amsoil's prices have skyrocketed out of reach for me.

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Everyone still recommends adding the additive.

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Vinyl top molding and front & rear window clips done. Rear wheel opening trim installed. We tried putting the drip rail molding on, but the vinyl overlapping the roof rail edge makes it impossible to install the trim. Several people suggested we trim the vinyl off the outside and top edge of the drip rail to make more room for the trim. That sounds like the best solution.

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Looking good

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Thanks, Harold, for the compliment. We have a long way to go, but it's starting to look like a car again.

Is the windshield pillar external trim piece reproduced? If not, do you know of any available used?
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We cut the vinyl off the drip rail edge and were able to put the trim on. I had a NOS set which does include all six pieces. Still tight, but doable.

Also got the master cylinder installed, lines modified, and brakes bled. We flushed out the old fluid and put synthetic in. No need to bench bleed the new master cylinder. We filled it on the car and bled the old school way with no trouble.

Installed the door windows last week along with window sweeps. Yes, as some have commented, the sweeps don't fit without mods. We had to re-drill the holes in the ends for the screws. The very sharp, rough-cut ends aren't so nice, either.
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Also, how successful have you been on removing the rearmost bolt that holds the subframe to the body? Both sides, the rear bolt (about 5/8" or 3/4"), needs to be removed to replace a badly cracked/damaged rubber mount.

Is the bolt threaded into a typical cage nut that will spin when I try to remove the bolt, or is there a trick to getting the bolts out?

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As I said on Py
soak in penertrating oil for a few days. Sprayed this one for 3 days and bolts came right out. And these were really rusted to hell.
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After installing and adjusting the door windows, I found these left over. Where do they go and what do they do?

I looked under the carpet. Yes, the bolts/cage nuts are accessible from the inside. I'm soaking them with oil so we can remove them and put new rubber mounts in place. They are virtually rust-free vs. the heads underneath that look bad. Thanks for the info.
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Anybody? What are these brackets for? I found them with the door hardware.
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Those are the brackets that mount inside the door and the rod from the door handle to the latch fastens in them to help keep them from rattling.

Maybe I'm wrong. I tried finding a picture of them in my restoration pictures but could not find a clear picture of them.

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Thanks, Harold. I thought that's what they were, too, but there are already smaller brackets in place holding the door unlock rod. I can't find another place for these other brackets. They look like they're designed to hold a rod from rattling as you said.

They would fit toward the front of each door at the top inner ledge, but the paint pattern on them would put them at the angle in the picture---and, they don't look like they belong there. If that was the location, it would be to support the door panel.
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I checked my books and I don't see anything like that on the the doors or quarter area. I don't believe it is part of the door.

I don't recall a bracket like that in my convertible. So maybe it has to do with something specific to the coupe? Maybe headliner, package tray area?

I'm stumped at this point.

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You know far more about these cars than we do, so we're more stumped than you. We found another single bracket like this among a box of parts taken off a junkyard Firebird coupe years ago. This one has no paint on it at all.

It's either a rod guide as you suspected or a "hook" for interior trim, judging by the design. You can see marks in the pictures on one side (the bracket on the right side of the picture above) of the small hole where the screw head contacted the bracket.

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The inside door panels hang on those brackets one for each side

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Thank you James.

Where on the door panel do these brackets mount? I attached them just for a picture but have no idea where they should be mounted.

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it goes up at the front of the door about 3" back when i get home I will try to post a picture

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It looks like you have it in the right place I cant figure out how to add a picture so I will post a link to my build .
Oh here I got it
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Is those clips just for standard interior?

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Originally Posted By HaroldB
Is those clips just for standard interior?


I'm mot sure of that I have a 69 standard interior so your guess is as good as mine

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Thanks for solving the "mystery of the brackets!" That's the only screw hole on the inner door panel that would possibly hold the bracket. This car does have the standard interior.

We get the door panels next week, so we'll trial fit them with the bracket and report back.

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A little more progress! Will have Goodrich T/A 255-70R15's on the back, 205-70R15's on the front. Wheels are 15X7.
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Applied generous amount of Eastwood interior panel rust preventive in the doors and front of quarters (below quarter window). Will do the rear part of the quarter panels (through trunk) and bottom of the panel behind the rear window, pinch weld area inside the roof next.

FWIW, replacement of the four subframe body mounts was relatively easy. Bolts came out with a breaker bar and 1" socket and new rubbers, washers went in place of the old, rotted pieces. If you do this, be sure and note the order of assembly of the rubber, washers, sleeve, and bolt. The front mount rubber is thicker than the rear.

Installed the "mystery trim clips" on both inner door panels, thanks to jamesM. Harold, now we both know where they go.

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Does anyone know of a source for the heavy tarpaper-like material used in the floor pans? Ours are all good except for the driver's side. The front one has holes in it and the rear one was missing. I don't see a need to buy a complete floor insulation kit for these two pieces.

There must be some type of roofing material or ? that would work for these pieces.

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I know several people in the past have posted about getting material at Lowe's/Home Depot that greatly undercut the price of Dynamat. I think those were still foil lined.

Ames does sell a kit for $55 that is supposed to be similar to the factory version.

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The heavy tar paper liners are sold by all the repop houses for around $20 for a pre cut set. Match just like originals.


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