Sometimes I feel like valuations of cars for sale here by people asking for help are misleading. I think that some valuations are posted out of spite because the poster may have sold their car for a loss and doesn't want someone else to do better.

A recent poster asked the value of their car and someone commented they wouldnt have much luck selling at 20K so they should try 10K to get more action. 10K on a nice non original convertible. That is outrageous, if someone has a nice 68 convertible they want to sell for 10K message me and Ill come over with the cash, JUST a Stupid comment!

Trav posted his 1968 for sale on here for 35K, at the end of the thread he says sold, maybe not for 35K but definitely not 10K

here check out this link on ebay for a non original 1968 convertible bidding over 20K already with 4 days to go https://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Pontiac-Firebird-4-Speed/372149173454?hash=item56a5d1bcce:g:WSsAAOSwA~VaGLfI&vxp=mtr

If you got burnt on your own car sale dont dump on someones else by valuating at a crap [censored] price, if its got hole and rust in it that sells in the 3-6K range but a nice looking driver for only 10K DUMB!

don't quite agree.... the correct price for a car is what a willing buyer and willing seller will agree upon, no mater opinions

Can you post a link to this thread? I don't recall it, must have missed it.

I just wonder if something was taken out of context.

Never believe eBay pricing particularly under reserve. I know having bought a couple vehicles through it.

https://firstgenfirebird.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=314466#Post314466


Yes, agreed it looks nice. I’ll be the “downer” of the crowd. You state the PHS indicates 326, that car was repainted non-original color, new floor pans etc. All of that pretty much reduces the provenance to zero. I would think you could list for low 20’s and expect to end up in the teens somewhere...


I think the seller would have a fighting chance of 23k if he bought white letter tires and actually bought the correct center caps. Otherwise...it won't even bring 20k.

Scott, you're going to have to pick a number. There's probably going to be a lot of interest at $10K. Maybe not as much at $20K

I agree, but if someone is asking for a valuation, it should be based on recent car sales in todays marketplace. not what you sold a car for 5 years ago, or what you as a current owner might be willing to pay, you already have one so you would not be a motivated buyer

I'll stick by my comments. Owner of the vehicle states 'provenance'. Here's a reasonable definition of that:

'a record of ownership of a work of art or an antique, used as a guide to authenticity or quality'

He's got records showing the engine has been replaced, how is that authentic?

Further states, "Unmolested with most if not all original /stock parts" and yet it has a 400 hood, I didn't know they put those on 326 cars from '67? So, can't take everything he states at face value.

"needs repaint /refinish to complete restoration".

Okay, not being able to see the car, I'll go with the former needs a repaint. How much should I budget for that? Go over to PY Forums and see the mess people have gone through to get stuff painted in the last few months. I would say at least $5k even if it needs minimal body work. But wait, he mentioned that four letter word "minimal surface rust on small sections of undercarriage". Am I going to have to replace floor pans too?

So, I see an 18k to 22k car that needs works and would rather pay the 18k if I were a buyer.

Hey ace, that was my comment that you were commenting on I imagine. If I were able to put hands on a car my valuation would look a whole lot different probably. It is a nice looking car in the 2 or 3 pics but seriously how can you make a valid estimate based on that. I personally looked at cars that looked nice and ran great but turned out to be Swiss cheese under the paint. The rust seemed to be the only thing from keeping it from folding n half. Some boards require that for sale adds include a price no matter how random. I tend to agree with this policy. I might consider buying this car but why should I start any kind of dialog about he purchase if this guy has just watched 36 hours of Barrett-Jackson and thinks his car must be worth 3 million because all the other red Firebirds went that high. My comment was just to impress the idea that if you want to sell your car you must at least decide on a ballpark figure to give sellers a idea of where they might want to start negotiations. A pool of potential buyers is not the best place to ask how much I should sell my car for? Do you think we should pump this guy up and say, that thing should sell for $50K easy, and send him on his merry way just because you dumped $40K in yours and you don't want somebody else devaluing your car by selling it cheap?
There's more to it but I'll let it go by saying opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one.

Lol. I’m a realist. If you are in the collector car market and you are sending your car off to have anything done then yes you will be a failure. I’ve rebuilt and restored many different vehicles. I’ve never had any work done by anyone other than myself. I’m not a mechanic I’m just good with my hands and aparantly most people here send their work off to be done so they will never make money on their investment. But in this current market it seems like every idiot has money and they are willing to blow it. So if it runs and shines and the top goes down it selling for 20k plus I’ve never been attached to anything I’ve built or sold. And every buyer isn’t a Pontiac specialist that will get hung up on the fact that a sill plate screw is not correct. Sorry Firebird fans these aren’t MOPARS. If you are restoring to 100% correct you betterr live to a 100 to get your money back.

I appreciate the help I get here but the higher than high attitude some people have you got remember these are just pontiacs a brand that has been officially killed

It is a mistake to think of these as investments.

You won't get your money back at age 100. Who will want to buy a first gen Firebird when the cars are 100 years old? My guess is no one. Maybe if it were truly unique like a Ram Air convertible etc. or some of the Trans Ams. Otherwise, no one.

Regarding higher than high, perhaps you should look in the mirror. You are the one trying to lecture everyone here.

Kinda my point ace. You are ready to bring over your checkbook any place any time to buy a $10K car but your not in as much of a hurry at $20K ( or $30 or $40, $50). A seller must decide on at what price point it will be worth letting the car go. The trick is in finding someone that wants it bad enough to make that happen. And thank god they're not mopars.

I think it was simply meant as ask $20,000 and expect to wait a while for a sale or ask $10,000 and your voicemail will be full!

The car is kind of a frankenbird. It needs work and its not stock. I've recently seen some 97 point + restored 400 4 speed cars flop on the market for quite a while at $35,000.

I don't mind doing work on a car, but it has to be worth my while price wise. You could be good with your wrench, but a seat cover is still going to be $300 and a re-chromed bumper is still going to be $400 etc. etc.