'Birds are really going up. Not like Mopars, not like GTOs, but definitely on the climb. Many Pontiacs are starting to go up. Even parts cars are fetching what a driver did a couple of years ago. Coupes are keeping pace with convertibles in rate of increase. My 'bird has doubled in insurance and appraisal value in just 3 years, and I would not be able to afford it today.
Buy now...while you still can.
Vikki 1969 Goldenrod Yellow / black 400 convertible numbers matching
This is very interesting to me... I have been talking behind the scenes with a few of you about boosting our car values.. Nothing would please me more than turning my ride into a 6 figure investment.
Classic car owners have organized through the internet and helped one another restore their vehicles. I want to harness this collective energy and leverage it into raising our cars values and recognition.
With the help of Brett, I even cranked out a name and logo.
F.O.R.C.E. - Firebird Owners Restoring Classic Excellence. But this club will be different, it will include all the other clubs that work together for a little social engineering.
So who else is interested in accomplishing this task? Power in numbers, I have no doubt it can be done!
Wait until I have another 'bird or two in my garage. Having a six figure 'bird does no good at all unless it's sold...so I'd need a few to choose from.
Vikki 1969 Goldenrod Yellow / black 400 convertible numbers matching
I tend to agree w/ Vikki.... and the only one benefitting from my cars "extra" value is most likely my widow?! OR , if it goes up too much , I may get tempted to sell.... :rolleyes: I want to keep her/drive around having fun...
Johnny Mac, Can plan "B" become plan "A"? Since I am a West Coast guy, we can simply set a time and date when we all head out the door to our local strip club for a few beers. Kind of like a virtual club meeting. No matter what part of the country you are in, there is a Force Firebird meeting location near you! Count me in!
I saw several first gen birds there today. The only one that may have been a repeat of the ones pictured above is possibly the red one. Saw at least 4 69's, 2 67's, and 2 68's. Unfortunately, the camera broke, so I couldn't take any pictures.
I just got back from Carlisle. I saw some of the cars pictured above. The gold 67 was not 19.9k but 16.9k. For all of you NOT familiar with Carlisle, let me give you some insight. The "prices" you are all talking about are numbers written on a windshield by an owner. To directly relate them to what these cars are now "worth" is somewhat difficult. I would like to know how many of these cars actually change hands and what they sell for. Carlisle is alot of fun, but I certainly would not go there thinking I am going to find a "deal". The prices on some of the other cars were ridiculous. The value of our cars has indeed gone up dramatically over the last few years..no question. But you really have to walk the fairgrounds and look at everything to understand my point.
FISH ON, I like that idea... the hot wife thinks it's great too...
personally, we were going to have the strippers come to us... but I think you are onto something here too
maybe we can fire up some t-shirts and get some members with cameras and rather than tie anyone to a certain date, just snap some pics of chicks with our cars, then post them under a "monthly meeting" directory.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Carlisle is alot of fun, but I certainly would not go there thinking I am going to find a "deal".</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm going to have to agree. It used to not be that way, even just a few years ago, but with all the crazy stuff that's being shown on TV, and they hype going into Barrett Jackson auctions, people think their crap is gold now.
68Bigbird, very nice pictures. You must have taken them on Thursday or Friday, because I left early on Saturday morning due to crappy weather. I agree with the prices of our cars going up, but I have attended Carlisle for the past 7 years, and I have seen a lot of very high prices (cars and parts). I have found more deals on this website and ebay than there. In my opinion, some of the owners of the cars on the field (all makes) have high hopes after looking at auction prices.
if you are looking for deals at carlisle the fall show is the best.the selection of parts is the worst cause all the rare stuff has been scarfed uf in earlier shows during the summer but if you are just looking for the run of the mill parts,you can get them cheaper in the fall.most dont want to drag too much home for the winter
GAR69, you're right. I got the price of the blue car and the gold car swapped around. The blue Coupe with vinyl top was $19,500 and the Gold one of course you can make out the writing on the window at $16,900. These are all asking prices not actual sales.
Hoody, I took the photos Thursday, the only day I went. The forcast was for rain and it was uncertain how Friday and later would turn out. I think many of the sellers are fishing rather than motivated to make a deal. It seemed like more of the cars were complete with there being fewer "projects". But I may be comparing to my recollections from last fall.
Terry, I think you're right about the prices being high this early in the season. I looked at a gutted and dented 68 driver's door with the inner shell cut up with tin snips for mounting a speaker. Where the speaker hole was chopped out, the bottom of the glass track used to attach. He wanted $400 for it.
I agree about the hype causing people to think everything is a pot of gold. Also, people need to be VERY careful. I think some inexperienced people may believe that all the cars they see at Carlisle are put together like something they see on one of the TV shows. This is a BUSINESS for many of those guys and what lies underneath could be VERY surprising.
Was there thursday and friday and would agree that for the most part the prices were crazy. There were some decent deals there but they go quickly. Many of them at the gate on the way in before they even get inside. My buddy bought a very nice/clean 66 Chevelle Friday morning. Got a pretty decent deal but the car had only been there an hour. While he was making the deal about 4 other people wanted to buy it.
Went to fridays show, overheard 4 comments worth repeating "top goes down - price goes up" "Frosting on a 2 by 4, but its still a board" " man, its a year older- now its worth more?" "movin into exhaust systems-parts are harder to come by" this last comment was from one of the bigger vendors!! MIK
I bought my first car at fall Carlisle in 1979. It was a 1966 GTO for $2,600.00.
The car I really wanted was a gold 1967 Firebird 326 HO 4spd convertible with black top and interior and rallye II's. I just couldn't scrounge up the $3,500.00 they were asking. Besides, Dad was opposed.
Some other cars at the show that year: 1969 T/A 1965 Shelby GT350H Original Cobras were plentiful (not the Mustang kind) Hemi Mopars Cougar Eliminator
Somebody could have stocked up on this stuff. Prices over $10,000 were not common back then.
I went to the Amhurst NH car show Sunday and that same gold 67 Firebird with the 6cyl was for sale there, it is now owned by a dealer in Maine and he was asking 15900 for it and from what I could see it did not sell.