Any ideas where I could get a manual trans for my 69 'bird? I've checked with a couple tranny shops and "we don't do that kind of thing". I currently have a th350 that is on it's way out and would like to go with a 4 speed. I heard that I won't have to change my crossmember or driveshaft because the 350 is the same length as the 4 speed used from the factory.

Thanks,

Ken

rebuild your auto.they are much more reliable and you don't have to struggle with shifting gears

depends where you are located, and what you want, Muncie or something sporty.There are good deals and bad deals (EPAY). Let us know a location and there are guys on board who can help you. Better look at the additional bits required, cause they add up fast.

Stick with the manual!

Hope you have deep pockets. You are going to need all of these parts to do it right, or you could spend about 1/4 as much and rebuild the TH350, or spend 4500 bucks for a tremec 5-speed conversion. go to www.keislerauto.com

Rebuilt Muncie 4spd (M20 or M21)... has to be small output shaft tail ext to work w/ correct fitting shifter.
-Correct 68-69 4 speed shifter
-console (if desired)
-Quality clutch & pressure plate (Hays, Center-force, etc)
-10.5 or 11" flywheel (uncracked)
-early F-body m/t pedals, throwout bearing arm
-Z-bar (clutch linkage)w/ clutch pedal rod
-'69 back drive linkage

now parts are getting cheap...
-bellhousing
-repop or good used shifter purch
-throwout bearing
-different backup light swith for '69 column
-two ball studs & subframe mtg bracket
-rubber shifter boot
-outboard column sealing plate & rubber boot
-return spring
-Flywheel to crank bolts
-pressure plate to flywheel bolts

You are looking at about $3000 to do it right.

why eliminate a expensive option.auto tranny for the base model set up

4 speed cars generally go for more money on resale. The books put them up 15 to 40 % over an automatic. That's a real simple equation that doesn't take in a lot of things though.

they do bring more money but it is not cause it is a better set up.it is only cause there are alot of people in their 2nd childhood that like to play with the gears.that will change in time.

I got news for ya Terry, it's not going to change. I hope!

And to think! I have a slush box sitting in a manual car.

You get a 5% boost in resale for that! LOL

$$$ & $

Average around here for a used M-21 Muncie is about $600, rebuilt about $1000, M-22 about $1600.
The 3 grand number is probably pretty darn close.

When I was a kid I had nothing to play with, when I turned Twelve I found I had something all along
When I turned 16 and found 4 speeds I now had two toys to play with.

roflmao,y'all are too funny.my opinion is:"automatics rule".when i have a lady in the front seat,i want one hand to be free to wander

Auto's rule the dragstrip. All you have to do is wait for the manual guy to miss a gear. Auto's never miss.

Wow, I never expected so many responses, thanks! I did a little adding and 3K does sound accurate(I already have a manual console). For less than that I could have an automatic overdrive. Thanks again you guys helped me make up my mind, I'll stay automatic. Although a 700r4 or 2004r does sound good.

Ken

P.S. my location is Sarasota, FL