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Is it a real H.O. ???? #251251 05/07/12 08:15 PM
Joined: May 2010 Posts: 76 California, USA K KevinK Member
KevinK Member K Joined: May 2010 Posts: 76 California, USA	Hey guys. I just bought a very rough 1968 Firebird coupe from original owner. It's been sitting in a barn since 1981. Only (significant) rust is in floors and a little in the rear window channel. All the interior/exterior colors and accessories match the fisher tag...but It also has a "yw" motor with original 7028264 xe carb. Could it be a real HO car??? No aftermarket parts anywhere. What do you think?

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Re: Is it a real H.O. ???? KevinK #251252 05/07/12 08:20 PM
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Jimc2002 Administrator Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,155 Likes: 51 Illinois	The YW is the '68 400HO automatic engine code. Look to see if the VIN on the front of the engine matches the vehicle VIN. Jim '68 400HO Conv.

Re: Is it a real H.O. ???? Jimc2002 #251253 05/07/12 08:23 PM
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KevinK Member K Joined: May 2010 Posts: 76 California, USA	Is it next the "yw" or in another spot? I thought they didn't match engines to the cars in '68.

Re: Is it a real H.O. ???? KevinK #251257 05/07/12 08:35 PM
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Jimc2002 Administrator Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,155 Likes: 51 Illinois	The VIN is on the engine in '68. It is difficult to see. You can find it on the milled surface under the radiator hose connection to the engine. This shows the location: http://www.teufert.net/identify/identify.htm Jim '68 400HO Conv.

Re: Is it a real H.O. ???? KevinK #251258 05/07/12 08:44 PM
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KevinK Member K Joined: May 2010 Posts: 76 California, USA	Thanks Jim!!! I just checked the 6 digits to the left of the waterpump housing and they match the last 6 on the vin. Thanks so much, you made my day. Kevin

Re: Is it a real H.O. ???? KevinK #251260 05/07/12 08:57 PM
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Jimc2002 Administrator Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,155 Likes: 51 Illinois	Now you may want to order the PHS (Pontiac Historical Services) documentation to see the complete record of the build for your car. With the YW, you have 1 of 684 made. Jim '68 400HO Conv.

Re: Is it a real H.O. ???? Jimc2002 #251261 05/07/12 09:02 PM
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KevinK Member K Joined: May 2010 Posts: 76 California, USA	I just did. Now I'll be anxiously awaiting the rest of the info. If I'm reading the info right, there were only 684 of these made with 400HO and turbo 400 transmission. It's a YY paint code with white parchment interior. How long have to owned your HO?

Re: Is it a real H.O. ???? KevinK #251262 05/07/12 09:13 PM
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Jimc2002 Administrator Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,155 Likes: 51 Illinois	Enjoy that Mayfair Maize '68. This coming Saturday I will have owned mine for 43 years. Jim '68 400HO Conv.

Re: Is it a real H.O. ???? Jimc2002 #251265 05/07/12 09:18 PM
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KevinK Member K Joined: May 2010 Posts: 76 California, USA	Wow...that's pretty great. This will be my 4th firebird, but the best find yet. Im not sure if I should try to re-sell it or put "a lot" of money into a restoration.

Re: Is it a real H.O. ???? KevinK #251290 05/08/12 02:40 AM
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BetWinner Member Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 264 Kernersville, N.C.	That sounds like a great find. Please post some pictures when you can. Finding one of these cars with the original engine is a big plus. Jim has a very nice car and is a good source for Firebird information.

Re: Is it a real H.O. ???? Jimc2002 #251302 05/08/12 12:30 PM
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ho428 Member H Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,421 SC	Originally Posted By Jimc2002 This coming Saturday I will have owned mine for 43 years. Jim, I'm at 36 years, I guess to beat you I'll have to out live you. Wanting a Custom fit in an off the rack world. I don't have time for a job, I just need the money.

Re: Is it a real H.O. ???? ho428 #251307 05/08/12 12:44 PM
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Jimc2002 Administrator Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,155 Likes: 51 Illinois	That's about right. At this point, I'll have mine until I'm room temperature. One guy here (in Illinois - not on the 1st Gen Forum) bought his '68 new in December '67 so he has had his even longer than me. Jim '68 400HO Conv.

Re: Is it a real H.O. ???? ho428 #251309 05/08/12 12:49 PM
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Gus68 FGF Premium Member G Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,758 Alberta, Canada	I'm at 32 years for my 68 Coupe (in pieces). Just can't bring myself to scrap the shell yet! Engine Test Stand Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwoxyUwptUcdqEb-o2ArqyiUaHW0G_C88 restoring my 1968 Firebird 400 HO convertible (Firedawg) 1965 Pontiac Catalina Safari Wagon 389 TriPower (Catwagon) 1999 JD AWS LX Lawn tractor 17hp (my daily driver) 2006 Sequoia 2017 Murano (wife's car) 202? Electric car 203? 68 Firebird /w electric engine 2007 Bayliner 175 runabout /w 3.0L Mercuiser__________________________________________________________

Re: Is it a real H.O. ???? KevinK #251311 05/08/12 12:51 PM
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Gus68 FGF Premium Member G Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,758 Alberta, Canada	Originally Posted By ibdeni Wow...that's pretty great. This will be my 4th firebird, but the best find yet. Im not sure if I should try to re-sell it or put "a lot" of money into a restoration. I have a 68 400 HO vert I'm restoring. Let me know if you can sell/swap some of your parts. Engine Test Stand Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwoxyUwptUcdqEb-o2ArqyiUaHW0G_C88 restoring my 1968 Firebird 400 HO convertible (Firedawg) 1965 Pontiac Catalina Safari Wagon 389 TriPower (Catwagon) 1999 JD AWS LX Lawn tractor 17hp (my daily driver) 2006 Sequoia 2017 Murano (wife's car) 202? Electric car 203? 68 Firebird /w electric engine 2007 Bayliner 175 runabout /w 3.0L Mercuiser__________________________________________________________

Re: Is it a real H.O. ???? BetWinner #251458 05/10/12 03:29 PM
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KevinK Member K Joined: May 2010 Posts: 76 California, USA	trying to figure out how to load some pics.

Re: Is it a real H.O. ???? KevinK #251459 05/10/12 03:32 PM
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KevinK Member K Joined: May 2010 Posts: 76 California, USA	Can't figure it out.

Re: Is it a real H.O. ???? KevinK #251467 05/10/12 04:56 PM
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Bjorn Sefeldt Administrator Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 20,054 Houston, Texas ,US	not sure how far you got on pictures...but first step is having them on a location you can browse , like on"my pictures" on your computer , or photobucket or such...then you go below this reply/ post: square, then you`ll see "markup", below it"poll manager", then "File manager" ,thats where you browse and add pics FireBjorn http://FirstGenFirebird.org/show/closeup.mv?CarID=221 69 convertible 400 (was 350) Natalie, SOLD 58 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider Veloce , Gina,(SOLD) 1974 Alfa Romeo Spider, Mrs Robinson 2011 Volvo C30 T5 , Victoria ,.....( or Vicky)

Re: Is it a real H.O. ???? Bjorn Sefeldt #251482 05/10/12 07:13 PM
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KevinK Member K Joined: May 2010 Posts: 76 California, USA	Thanks for the tip. I will give it a try. It's on ebay too with pictures.

Re: Is it a real H.O. ???? KevinK #251486 05/10/12 08:16 PM
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68tpls400 Premium Member 6 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,337 Likes: 3 Mpls, MN	http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pontiac-F...=item27c6da9a65 Looks nice! I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure. I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe. 1968 400 convertible (Scarlet) 1976 T/A - 455 LE (No Burt) 1976 T/A New baby, starting full restoration. 1968 350 - 4 speed 'vert - 400 clone (the Beast!) 1968 350 convertible - Wife's car now- 400 clone (Aleutian Blue) (Blue Angel) 2008 Durango - DD 2008 GXP - New one from NH is AWESOME! 2017 Durango Citadel - Modern is nice! HEMI is amazing! 1998 Silverado Z71 - Father-daughter project 1968 400 coupe - R/A clone (Blue Pearl) (sold) 1967 326 convertible - Sold 1980 T/A SE Bandit - Sold

Re: Is it a real H.O. ???? 68tpls400 #251507 05/11/12 04:46 AM
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Amervo Senior Member A Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,902 'Merican Indian Reservation	From quick reply, click the "switch to full reply screen." Click file manager Click browse in the pop up window Find your pictrues and post Maximun size is 1.5 megs

Re: Is it a real H.O. ???? Amervo #251541 05/11/12 06:04 PM
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KevinK Member K Joined: May 2010 Posts: 76 California, USA	I also have a '68 350 car. May sell it to finance the HO rebuild.

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