Yeah, i was lookin more into it this evening and it still doesn't look like it will be fun.. I want to make some sort of face plate to make it look real nice too. And while im on the topic of audio. Has anybody ever hacked up their kick panels to incorporate speakers into them? i've been measuring and tryin to figure out if i can make these 6 1/2 inch speakers work in there. its gonna be a real tight fit, and i will probably have to cut some of the metal behind the panel to make them fit(hopefully not much). Nothing scares me more than cutting into $100 panels...