These are the RetroSound R-463N speakers in 4x6. They were the shallowest ones I could find since clearance is such a huge issue back there. After looking at many pics of installs, It appeared that the manual top has even less room than the power one (I could be wrong on this). these speakers fit perfectly with room to spare. I actually hung the speakers with coat hanger wire back there for a few drives to make sure the sound improvement would be worth the cutting. The speakers come with the grills shown. They were black, but I painted them a thin layer of flat white, then hit them with Ames Performance interior paint VDM28. I installed Infinity Kappa 4x6 speakers up in the kick panels at the normal location using the repop grills from Ames. I also added a Kenwood P-W12Tb in the trunk. Tons of low end when you need it (top down freeway driving). The sound from this combo well exceed my expectation with a minimal footprint on a classic car. I can send you more pics if you want, just PM me.