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Wherever this one goes, I will not be a name-dropper in a public forum.

(Except for dropping one name: remember Jayturd? One thing that all of us agree upon is that we have zero-tolerance for that crap. He operated here quite a while because there was zero communication. Once a small link was made, it was clear that he made a pretty decent haul, including free shipping in the tractor-trailer load of parts! If there is zero community communication, Jayturd could operate effectively at this board for years.)

Onward.

You post in the wanted section, and a fgf member pm’s you, but never threads your post. (In other words, you are wasting your time if you search my post-history for a name.) You close the deal, and the person sends out the parts before you have sent payment. Because the board member has fronted the parts, and the person isn’t a newbie, it builds enough comfort-level that you send cash payment. Actually, the seller has already given you a song and dance why cash is the best payment. Also, I have been around long enough to know for fact that many fgf board transactions are cash payments, so it isn’t an unusual way to do fgf board business.

The problem is that the cash never makes it to its destination!

Has this happened to you with another fgf board member? Did you send another payment?

It can only be a scam if you send another payment, and the seller already has your cash in his pocket; after all, you already have your parts.

The reason I wonder whether or not this would be an effective scam is that I gave significant thought about sending another payment, of course, a check. The reason I considered making another payment was that the chump-change, out-of-pocket expense cannot be compared to having your good-trade-partner reputation tarnished.

Someone must have been slipping stupid pills in my food! I’m not going to ‘buy’ my good-trade-partner reputation at this board. He wanted cash, and I would have just as soon sent another form of payment. And if I have to buy my reputation as a good trade partner at this board, I will need to find other sources for my purchases because my credit card, well money talks, and b/s walks.

If you wish to add to this thread, please don’t name anyone; simply, state that you had a similar situation, and whether or not you sent an additional payment.

If there is significant thread building at this post, it will be obvious that fgf board administration needs to follow up and see if there is another Jayturd at the board

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Seriously?

Did you have to post to 18 other subsections for us to be directed to piss and vinegar?

Why don't you cut to the chase and tell us exactly who and what and when and where.

If your point is "buyer beware", the entire point is for us to beware...correct?



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With paypal available...shame on you for sending anybody cash.


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Cash is appropriate for a face to face transaction. Paypal for the rest.


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Yes, paypal or a postal money order is the best way! so you have something to fall back on if you don't get your product! And you know when and if they got there money!


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In God we trust...all others pay cash...



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If there is significant thread building at this post, it will be obvious that fgf board administration needs to follow up and see if there is another Jayturd at the board

1) I dont think its admins job to find out who does what in purchaes....I think its between the buyer and seller.
2) obviously ,if there is such person 'on board' only way we can do anything is to delete his / her access to the site by banning...and to do that we need more info than this...= name, so it can be followed up....not insinuations.
3) "fool me once ,shame on You, Fool me twice...." you know the saying.... I really doubt I would send money a second time if I didnt see my first money back or check wasnt cashed etc.....


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Without names this post is useless

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Who sends anybody cash unless its in a birthday card?


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Originally Posted By corey
Who sends anybody cash unless its in a birthday card?


Or at least certified mail and proof of delivery.


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You really didn't need to post in every other section of the site to get people to come read this. We all go through the unread posts, and would see it.

Cash is for transactions made in person. paypal, money order, cheque are for mailed/internet transactions. It's illegal to mail cash for a reason.

You got the parts? don't resend the money. See if they post up on here that you are ripping them off....if not, you know they got the money..... did you mail the cash to the same address as the return address on the parts package you got? It's rather rare for mail to get lost.


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Both of you took a risk using cash through the mail. Lesson learned.

The only thing the Admins should address here, is that someone broke the forum rules posting the same thread in different sections.

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I have accepted checks from board mmbers for the few things I sold here, usually in a few days I send the part out. Checks clear faster then they used to. I don't like to inconvenience people to get a money order. Never had a problem here buying or selling.


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Originally Posted By Jarett
It's illegal to mail cash for a reason.


Are there different rules in Canada regarding this? There aren't any laws here in the US that make it illegal to mail cash. On the other hand, it generally isn't a good idea...

snopes has an article about this for the US mail system:

http://www.snopes.com/legal/postal/sendcash.asp


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I was always under the impression it was illegal to send cash through the mail. Just doesn't make sense to send cash to anyone I don't know personally. Money orders and paypal cost a little but save you this kind of headache

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if sending money in the mail is illegal, my grandparents are felons...


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http://www.snopes.com/legal/postal/sendcash.asp

Wow,I had no idea that misconception even existed. It'd be scary to think about all those little grandparents and aunts and uncles in jail next to the rapists and murderers.

Rapist: "What are you in for?"
Grandparent: "I sent my grandson $10 through the mail."

Suddenly I have Alice's Restraurant in my head.

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Alice`s Restaurant;
what were you convicted of?
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I am definitely not going to make negative comments towards those that send cash through the mail. However, all of us on here know that it is very risky. Not only do you risk having the seller pocket the money and not getting your part, but the Post Office also doesn't guarantee delivery of snail mail if it is lost or damaged in transit. This post should be changed to "Payer Beware".





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Have never sent cash through the mail and never will. If you MUST then you should get signature confirmation or delivery confirmation the very least. With the latter it will track the package and confirm the package was delivered to the shipping address and it doesn't cost much either. I use it all the time with everything now.


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