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This should help you sleep like a baby tonight---NOT!!! Hopefully he will soon be out of a job.


Please read!!!!!!!You owe it to yourself to be informed of this


Hooray!!! Someone FINALLY put the page numbers in so that we can locate these accusations in the Health Care Bill. You can find the health care bill in PDF format here: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr3200ih/pdf/BILLS-111hr3200ih.pdf

If you have trouble locating the section on the page number just do a control F and type in the word you are looking for. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS... At age 76 when you most need it, you are not eligible for cancer treatment What Nancy Pelosi didn't want us to know until after the healthcare bill was passed. Remember she said, "pass it and then read it!!." Here it is! ______________________________ Obama Care Highlighted by Page Number
THE CARE BILL HB 3200


JUDGE KITHIL IS THE 2ND OFFICIAL WHO HAS OUTLINED THESE PARTS OF THE CARE BILL. Judge Kithil of Marble Falls, TX - highlighted the most egregious pages of HB3200

Please read this........ Especially the reference to pages 58 & 59

JUDGE KITHIL wrote:

** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. Residents, even if they are here illegally.


** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.


** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).


** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)


** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.


** Page 272. Section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.


** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.


** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling..)


** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.
HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on to identify:


"Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress. Members of Congress are already exempt from the Social Security system ( http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blcongress.htm ; ), and have a well-funded private plan that covers their retirement needs. If they were on our Social Security plan, I believe they would find a very quick 'fix' to make the plan financially sound for their future."

- Honorable David Kithil of Marble Falls , Texas
All of the above should give you the ammo you need to support your opposition to Obamacare. Please send this information on to all of your email contacts.

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my comments in italics

______________________________ Obama Care Highlighted by Page Number
THE CARE BILL HB 3200


JUDGE KITHIL IS THE 2ND OFFICIAL WHO HAS OUTLINED THESE PARTS OF THE CARE BILL. Judge Kithil of Marble Falls, TX - highlighted the most egregious pages of HB3200

Please read this........ Especially the reference to pages 58 & 59

JUDGE KITHIL wrote:

** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. Residents, even if they are here illegally.
Strange that now its called "illegally" how come if they arent illegals?

** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.
Meaning they can take money from you at anytime, for parking tickets ,taxes or whatever
** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).yeah ,thats "fair", not only do you pay for your insurance ,you will pay for theirs too.LOL

** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?) so, you cannot get deductions for it.
** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees. socialism at 100%
** Page 272. Section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.
but of course, 'ration care'
** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception. socialism again

** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling..) the "You lie!" that Obama got angry about

** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order. "kill list"HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on to identify:


"Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress. Members of Congress are already exempt from the Social Security system ( http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blcongress.htm ; ), and have a well-funded private plan that covers their retirement needs. If they were on our Social Security plan, I believe they would find a very quick 'fix' to make the plan financially sound for their future." but of course, they cannot be treated as 'regular humans'...they are above us , royalty
- Honorable David Kithil of Marble Falls , Texas
All of the above should give you the ammo you need to support your opposition to Obamacare. Please send this information on to all of your email contacts. [/quote]


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It is obvious that it is unconstitutional and within a week SCOTUS will strike it down so hopefully it soon will be nothing but a nightmare that we have awakened from.



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but thats why they want to 'amend' the constitution...its "only a living documweent" anyway...we dont need no stinkin` constitution, esp. when we have such great leadership, that can make all the decisions for us


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We just need to be very concerned with SCOTUS members (current or future appointments) who believe in the words you wrote.

Recall a few months ago, activist SCOTUS Justice Ginsburg talking to the Egyptians: "I would not look to the U.S. Constitution, if I were drafting a constitution in the year 2012."


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Sarah Palin was RIGHT when she said 'death panels'. Illegal aliens alone will bankrupt Obamacare and Obama just added 800,000 to the rolls with his Amnesty. Anyway, the elderly will not be able to get many treatments because of rationing and the fact the socialists want to purge our society of the older people because they are more patriotic and not indoctrinated into the 'one world/global government' narrative currently being preached in our schools.

Speaking of schools, Obamacare also hijacked the Student Loan business. What better way to ensure that today's youth fall in line and wear their brown shirts.. Hold their education HOSTAGE in exchange for their allegiance to the regime.

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Just when I was starting to be able to relax and feel the stress of life roll off my shoulders... I read this. It is scary and I do not like it!


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Originally Posted By TennBlue

If you have trouble locating the section on the page number just do a control F and type in the word you are looking for.


I'm guessing none of you even looked. Ctrl + F and look for doctors. Hhmph not even 1 mention in the bill. That's odd. Mis information and information are two different things. I mean the page numbers don't correspond to anything. It's not even written in the same verbage the bill is written. It's email chains and fake stories like this that are being used to manipulate you. How can you make an accurate decision on the merits of the health care bill if you haven't even made yourself familiar with it? A lot people post on here without reading the repair manual when the answer is right there. You are doing the same thing.

Here's some interesting reading.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/mar/21/health-care-fact-checking/

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it is a good idea to snopes these kind of letters/emails/alerts/etc
http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/kithil.asp



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What is fact is that Obamacare was promoted based on false data, false assumptions and false promises. This is not from any chain email but based on my having followed it before, during and after it was passed.

Americans were told that if they like their plan, they could keep it. That was not true.

Americans were told their insurance premiums would drop significantly. That was not true.

Americans were told it would cost less that $1 trillion. That was not true.

Americans were told it would improve healthcare. That was not true.

Americans were told the negotiations would be broadcast on TV. That was not true.

And, to get the final vote from a Congressman Stupak, he and Americans were told it would not fund abortions. That was not true.

It creates over 150 new government agencies, needs thousands of IRS employees to enforce it and gives government massive new access to your personal information.

It raises taxes, slashes Medicare, tramples religious freedom, will drive out medical professionals, stifle new medical technology innovation, has forms of death panels, and creates rationing.

It is one of the main, if not the main reason the nation’s unemployment remains high.

It is opposed by an overwhelming percentage of Americans. 2/3 now want it repealed/struck down by SCOTUS.

It is unconstitutional and I am confident, despite the activist justices, will be struck down by SCOTUS.


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OUCH!


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Originally Posted By Jimc2002

It is one of the main, if not the main reason the nation's unemployment remains high.



Right on! I know we are cautious about adding employees to the payroll when we have asolutely no idea how much health insurance is going to cost us in the future.

Uncertainty breeds instability.

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