I have finally removed the cowl lid that has never been off. I wanted to see the condition of the metal and paint and found these numbers. They do not match the VIN number and when I ran the PHS and contacted the I do not have a EUN number for this car. The car is 100% original and everything else matches up.

What are these numbers?

On '68's, this would show the matching VIN number. There is also the same number stamped under the heater cover on the firewall.

I would think '69 would be the same, but I'm not a '69 guy...

My EUN's show clearly on the blocks behind the water pump as well.

I am not familar with the 69s, but are those raised letters or stamps.

On my '67, that is the location of one of the "secret" partial VIN's. Mine matches the numbers on my door frame ('67 VIN tag). I'm thinking that matching issue would be the same for all FGF's.

How close is that number to your actual VIN number? Some people have reported secret VIN's that are off a digit or two. All the stamping back then was done manually so there were some slip ups.

I am hoping that your other documents at least agree with that your car was built at Van Nuys (the first "L" in that number). Another potential issue is that the first digit past the "L" being a "1" suggests that your OHC car started life as a V8 body shell according to the 1969 VIN info on this site (L6 cars started with a "6")

Otherwise, you may be looking at some hanky panky involving your car's VIN number in the past and that may not be a good thing.

Saw your VIN number on another post here under "General".

Hmmm. I sure hope that something interesting happened on the assembly line.

Was your car a special factory order? Perhaps they decided to get the customer's order in and grabbed this 'vert body that they had intended to be a V8 car. Don't know if they did stuff like that.

Essentially a one owner vehicle, I think he noted elsewhere his father was the purchaser of the vehicle when it was new.

They are stamped.

Problem is that this number is for a V8 and my car was born with a OHC.

Yep, and I just read from the Camaro Assembly Process that the cowl tag was riveted to the firewall prior to painting thus way before VIN assignment.

The VIN was assigned and stamped on the shell at the same time the Body Broadcast Sheet was created.

Hmmmmmmmm

Did you have a chance to check the other "secret" VIN which is usually on the firewall below the heater box and thus hidden when the heater box is installed?

Nope I just fouund this one lat night. I am not interested in taking any more of the car part to find more issues lol.

How much is involved to get to that other VIN?

I have seen cars I know to be original missing the VIN behind the heater box. Cowl panel VIN did match.

You have to remove the sheetmetal cover or "box" in the left side of the firewall that also contains the blower motor. It cannot be done with the LH inner fender (and probably outer fender) attached.

Just for fun - you may want to get the PHS documents for that other VIN. You may have an interesting mystery on your hands.

Marc,

69 ragtop here and it's on the passenger side. U car and all matches.

I sent and received and email from Jim Mattison at PHS and he said he will look into it on Monday. As much fun as it sounds I am not going to take the car apart to get to that number especially now that Jim said he will help out.

I wonder if this car could be the 9th Trans Am .....