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NIST corrosion lab tests suggest need for underground gas tank retrofits
Wed, 07/30/2014 - 7:40am
Laura Ost, NIST
Optical micrographs of severe corrosion on steel alloy samples exposed to ethanol and acetic acid vapors?conditions typical of underground gas storage tanks?after 355, 643 and 932 hrs. Image: NISTA hidden hazard lurks beneath many of the roughly 156,000 gas stations across the U.S.
The hazard is corrosion in parts of underground gas storage tanks?corrosion that could result in failures, leaks and contamination of groundwater, a source of drinking water. In recent years, field inspectors in nine states have reported many rapidly corroding gas storage tank components such as sump pumps. These incidents are generally associated with use of gasoline-ethanol blends and the presence of bacteria, Acetobacter aceti, which convert ethanol to acetic acid, a component of vinegar.
Following up on the inspectors? findings, a NIST laboratory study has demonstrated severe corrosion?rapidly eating through 1 mm of wall thickness per year?on steel alloy samples exposed to ethanol and acetic acid vapors. Based on this finding, NIST researchers suggest gas stations may need to replace submersible pump casings, typically made of steel or cast iron, sooner than expected. Such retrofits could cost an estimated $1,500 to $2,500 each, and there are more than 500,000 underground gas storage tanks around the country.
The NIST study focused only on sump pump components, located directly below access covers at filling stations, just above and connected to underground gas storage tanks. The sump pumps move fuel from underground tanks to the fuel dispensers that pump gas into cars. These underground tanks and pipes also may be made of steel and could be vulnerable, too. ?We know there are corrosion issues associated with the inside of some tanks. We?re not sure, at this point, if that type of corrosion is caused by the bacteria,? NIST co-author Jeffrey Sowards says.
Much of the U.S. fuel infrastructure was designed for unblended gasoline. Ethanol, an alcohol that can be made from corn, is now widely used as a gasoline additive due to its oxygen content and octane rating, or antiknock index. A previous NIST study found that ethanol-loving bacteria accelerated pipeline cracking.
For the latest study, NIST researchers developed new test methods and equipment to study copper and steel alloy samples either immersed in ethanol-water solutions inoculated with bacteria, or exposed to the vapors above the medium?conditions mimicking those around sump pumps. Corrosion rates were measured over about 30 days.
The NIST study confirmed damage similar to that seen on sump pumps by field inspectors. The worst damage, with flaky iron oxide products covering corrosion, was found on steel exposed to the vapors. Copper in both the liquid and vapor environments also sustained damage, but corrosion rates were slower. Steel corroded very slowly while immersed in the liquid mixture; the NIST paper suggests bacteria may have created a biofilm that was protective in this case.
Although copper corroded slowly?it would take about 15 years for 1.2-mm-thick copper tube walls to develop holes?localized corrosion was observed on cold-worked copper, the material used in sump pump tubing, NIST co-author Elisabeth Mansfield notes. Therefore, stress-corrosion cracking is a concern for bent copper tubing because it would greatly reduce tube lifetime and result in leaks.
The NIST test equipment developed for the study could be used in future investigations of special coatings and biocides or other ways to prevent sump pump failures and leaks.


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or this....

Here's an article about ethanol. Companion to gas tank corrosion.

Its like global warming - this administration refuses to listen to logic,
facts or reason!

http://patriotpost.us/alexander/27833

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I have been harping about this for years! Lot's of deaf ears around though.

But as bad as Barry is, for some odd reason, he has been asking Congress to reduce or eliminate the ethanol requirements across the country.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/ethanol-epa-biofuel-blending-gasoline-agriculture-99689.html
As you can see from the date of the article, this is going no where...

It's in our elected representative's hands, and nobody plans to do anything about it any time soon. Everyone is officially sitting on their hands until November 2016.


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I put ethanol in my trimmer a while back because i had nothing else to use, and forgot to dump it out and replace with pure gas soon enough. It corroded my tiny fuel line from the tank to the carb and made it brittle. Had to replace it and it was only a year old.

Never again!


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Strange. Makes the lines mushy on my chain saw and trimmer.

BTY, my tiller wouldnt start after sitting a year or two(I know lol).
So drained it out(12-16 oz's), and dumped into a 1/2 gal of used ATF.
Had 2 large brush piles from a bad storm a month ago, so figured wth.
Now I've messed with different forms of fuels. Trained newbes on the FD how to use(and how not to) , plus for real on many 18 wheeler tank leaks/fires, etc., during 30 yr career.
But how bad can 1-2 yr old gas that wont run an engine mixed with ATF be?
1 cup poured on on the brush in about 1' circle made at least a 4' explosion in dead calm air sitting only 3-4 seconds before lighting!
So dont even think about it unless your a trained professional. grin


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yeah- bizzare, it was literally starting to crumble. Does the ATF do something in the mix? Last month I dumped about 3 gal. of old, old gas ( I mean like 7 yr old gas) that my Dad had laying around on a brush pile and it did the job pretty quickly. the only thing I noticed was that it didn't have the "explosive whoosh" that you see with fresh gas.


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Think it was do to no rain in nearly 2 weeks. The pile had been sit'n a month and was 4' high.
It probly changed to vapor by the time it ran down.


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