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#292152 09/09/14 06:18 PM
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Does anyone know of anybody that makes the Super 400 Hood anymore. The phone number for the guy in PA that originally made these does not work anymore.
If not, and I know this might sound absolutely crazy, has anyone ever lowered the 400 engine in the subframe. Apparently you need 2" more clearance under the hood to accommodate an Edellbrock RPM intake. I've wondered if it is possible to lower the engine 1" and lower the front subframe 1" by using spacers to gain the 2". I understand that this would be quite complicated using spacers under the inner fenders and core support, but I have not even begun to think about steering clearance issues.
I just really hate to have to cut a gaping hole in my hood or put an aftermarket cowl induction hood on. The 'ol Firechicken would end up looking like it's ugly red headed step sister (Camaro). That is out of the question.

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Spotts Performance has a page about them but it says they are unavailable at this time. But I bet you they could tell you what the story is with them.


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I have a RPM and n2o plate with a drop base air cleaner from Larry Navarro(on performance years).
Not a lot of clearance from top of air horn to lid(think 3" tall filter-have to check), but does fit.


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GOOD LUCK!!! I looked for a couple weeks and call companies No Dice. I found 1 used on PY.

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I'm going to end up making one for my car. I need clearance and no stock hood air filter Assemblies will work.


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I have no clue what a super 400 hood is...

However.

Find a drop base air cleaner housing...a 3 or 4" filter element with a standard air cleaner cover will clear the hood. You can not use a stud/wing nut to secure the air cleaner.

It is cost prohibitive...even insane...to start mucking with engine height in order to utilize an air cleaner.

I had a stock hood..solid motor mounts..RPM intake..rochester carb. .had 1/2" clearance. .


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I may still have the drop base air cleaner...if you're interested..


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The cowl as well as the hood are raised 2 inches smile

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Originally Posted By Banshee
I have no clue what a super 400 hood is...

However.

Find a drop base air cleaner housing...a 3 or 4" filter element with a standard air cleaner cover will clear the hood. You can not use a stud/wing nut to secure the air cleaner.

It is cost prohibitive...even insane...to start mucking with engine height in order to utilize an air cleaner.

I had a stock hood..solid motor mounts..RPM intake..rochester carb. .had 1/2" clearance. .
Banshee you need to get out more. LOL smile

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Quote:
Banshee you need to get out more. LOL smile


Purists need not to get out more....but perhaps you are right on many other aspects!


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I had to put in a drop base air cleaner. I was able to put in a stock height filter and no hood mods.

No way I would compromise my hood for an aftermarket part. IMO

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At least give me a little cred. I still want it to look stock. I could just replace the quarters, front end, put a cowl induction hood on and call it a camaro. Lol


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Here are some pics of the Moroso air cleaner I am referring to.
Moroso AirCleaner ChromeWithFilter.jpg Moroso AirCleaner LowerPan.jpg Morroso AirCleaner IMGP0852.JPG Carter 850cfm ThermoQuad On350HO IMGP1441.JPG

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No way to drop the engine in the frame without re-configuring the cross member to clear the oil pan. If you're considering putting one of those hoods on, why are you even thinking about a stock looking car? It's one or the other. I say if it's stock...leave it that way. If it's not stock...then let the customizing begin and don't look back.

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I, for one, appreciate your efforts to keep from "Camaro-izing" your Firebird.


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If you do find who is making the super hood these days please let us know.

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With the victor intake I think it will be impossible to run my stock 400 hood. BUT! I do have a northwind with a 950 that im dying to try out.. The Super 400 looks mennessing tho LOL


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