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I bought this kickdown bracket
http://www.firebirdcentral.com/1968_1975_Automatic_Transmission_Kickdown_Cable_Br_p/tra-64.htm

and this return spring
http://www.firebirdcentral.com/1967_1972_Acclerator_Carburetor_Return_Spring_p/enc-2750.htm

The motor is a 69 motor, with what I believe to be matching 69 four barrel pontiac intake, The carb is a Q-jet, likely a 77,
The bolts for the bracket do not match up with intake bolt holes that I could determine, and the spring it too short to pull from where the kickdown attaches back towards the fire wall, I noticed a lot of chevy motors have throttle return spring attached to small bracket at front of intake, did pontiac do this as well?

Any pictures would be helpful or suggestions to keep a stock appearance with this set up.

TH350 tranny with square kickdown attachment.

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None of what you pictured is stock.


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They sure lead you to believe that this is the "correct" items in terms of stock set up!!!

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Here is what a stock kickdown with bracket mounting looks like.

This is a 400, but it's very similar for a 350.

The bracket is kind of hard to see, but the one Harold posted is correct.
20131218_171858.jpg GEDC2040.JPG


I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.
I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe.
1968 400 convertible (Scarlet)
1976 T/A - 455 LE (No Burt)
1976 T/A New baby, starting full restoration.
1968 350 - 4 speed 'vert - 400 clone (the Beast!)
1968 350 convertible - Wife's car now- 400 clone (Aleutian Blue) (Blue Angel)
2008 Durango - DD
2008 GXP - New one from NH is AWESOME!
2017 Durango Citadel - Modern is nice! HEMI is amazing!
1998 Silverado Z71 - Father-daughter project
1968 400 coupe - R/A clone (Blue Pearl) (sold)
1967 326 convertible - Sold frown
1980 T/A SE Bandit - Sold frown
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The return spring you posted may be correct, but it would be for the throttle, not the kickdown.


I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.
I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe.
1968 400 convertible (Scarlet)
1976 T/A - 455 LE (No Burt)
1976 T/A New baby, starting full restoration.
1968 350 - 4 speed 'vert - 400 clone (the Beast!)
1968 350 convertible - Wife's car now- 400 clone (Aleutian Blue) (Blue Angel)
2008 Durango - DD
2008 GXP - New one from NH is AWESOME!
2017 Durango Citadel - Modern is nice! HEMI is amazing!
1998 Silverado Z71 - Father-daughter project
1968 400 coupe - R/A clone (Blue Pearl) (sold)
1967 326 convertible - Sold frown
1980 T/A SE Bandit - Sold frown
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That Kick down bracket appears to be for a 400, since it has the circle portion at the top, 400's had electrical solenoid if I am not mistaken, which is more of a plunger style, mine would have a cable going to carb linkage and then the bracket holds the cable similar to the throttle cable but opposite direction,

Spring is a throttle return spring, thinking maybe some of bracketry on the side of the carb may need changed... also to follow up on that... was it common at all at attach the throttle return spring towards the front of the manifold like some of the chevys did?

Thanks for all the feedback, I will post some pics of mine if I can...

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The long return spring is from old 2 barrel set up , as is the throttle bracket... don't mind the stack of washers... I'm working on that too. LOL

The kickdown attaches near that long spring I believe.
carb bracket.JPG carb bracket1.JPG

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Cable type kickdown would be second gen style.

First gen, including 350 (either 2 or 4 barrel) have similar style to the 400 with the electric plunger kickdown.


I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.
I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe.
1968 400 convertible (Scarlet)
1976 T/A - 455 LE (No Burt)
1976 T/A New baby, starting full restoration.
1968 350 - 4 speed 'vert - 400 clone (the Beast!)
1968 350 convertible - Wife's car now- 400 clone (Aleutian Blue) (Blue Angel)
2008 Durango - DD
2008 GXP - New one from NH is AWESOME!
2017 Durango Citadel - Modern is nice! HEMI is amazing!
1998 Silverado Z71 - Father-daughter project
1968 400 coupe - R/A clone (Blue Pearl) (sold)
1967 326 convertible - Sold frown
1980 T/A SE Bandit - Sold frown
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Cool, that makes some sense too. will have to just get something rigged up that looks good and is functional...

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Not sure if you're doing a restoration or this is for function, but I found my T400 downshifts fine w/o the switch.

On another note, I noticed some of the pictures show a single return spring. For safety sake I always run 2 springs, which If I recall this is the stock configuration. The Chevy return spring pulls on the top of the bell-crank and is attached forward. Whereas the Pontiac springs pull on the bottom and attaches to the accelerator cable bracket.


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