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Well, I have sticker shock. I finally added up all my receipts for my 68 Firebird Coupe 350 3spd frame off restoration. It's been in the works for three years and I finished it this past September 2016. I bought it in running condition for $4,500. The parts added up to $14,800 and I did everything but the engine myself. Some of the big items were the engine $4,000, front disc kit $600, interior kit $850, tires $600, exhaust $450, distributer $250. I'm pretty frugal, so I was always looking for the best deal. The worst parts came from car shows, I ended up replacing some of those parts and I have a set of seat foams and covers that I didn't use. I had always though I had about $12K in it. I've attached the parts sheet for anyone wondering what it can cost for a restoration.
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Here's the spreadsheet. Guess I'm over the limit for attachments.
P/N QTY PRICE EA TOTAL
Front Bumper $202.26
Rear Bumper $149.95
Wheel Opening Mlding Set $82.95
Windshield Mldg Clips $16.95
Radiator Core Support $95.00
Battery Box w/Clamp/Bolt $24.10
RH Fender Extension $43.95
Inner Fender Well RH $126.00
1967-1968 Firewall Wiring Gutter $17.00
Trunk Paint Kit $49.99
Gas Tank Paint $9.99
Paint Stripper $43.01
Dash Vents $20.00
Leaf Rear Springs $126.84
Install kit $84.00
Filler Neck hose $9.95
Fuel Tank Clamp $5.50
Ship $47.50
REAR DRUM BRAKE HARDWARE KIT $10.00
Transmission Switch
Firebird Quarter louvers set of 12 $69.99
Pillar Molding Pair $64.99
Master STD Interior Screw Kit $122.00
FW688T Windshield Glass Tinted $118.20
Windshield seal $15.28
Rally II Center Cap Set - Set of 4 $119.95
OER Sill Plate, Chrome Finish Pr $47.90
Engine $2,275.15
$983.00
$800.00
10W-40 Racing Oil
Battery $106.50
Spare Tire Cover $39.00
Temp Sender $19.50
Voltage reg $29.00
Fuel pump $43.00
Vent pipe Grommet $3.00
Timechain stud $3.00
Hose Clamp Kit $16.00
Cowl seal Kit $20.00
Clutch Pedal Bumper $3.00
GM Decal $5.00
Jack Decal $5.00
Cooling Decal $5.00
Emission Decal $5.00
Spray paint $8.54
Header Bolts $7.19
Discount -$4.00
Air Filter Wrong one $7.64
Adhesive $23.39
Tax $1.42
Air Filter $8.64
Paint $127.01
$180.79
Rad Support Mount $35.00
Body Hdwr $14.00
Clutch Rod Seal $6.00
End Link Kit $14.00
Lwr Arm $119.00
Upr Arm $109.00
Lwr Arm $119.00
Upr Arm $109.00
Disc Bk Kit $605.00
Clutch Fk Boot $8.00
Sway Br Bushings $20.00
Ship $50.00
Htr Box Gasket Set $20.00
Carb rebuild $27.13
Gear Lube $5.77
fuel cleaner $5.28
tax $0.75
Autozone $15.99
Hood Emblem $39.95
Fender Emblem $76.95
Glove Box Emblem $21.95
Fender Emblem $53.90
Fuel Door Emblem $29.95
Speaker $39.95
Seal Plates $69.95
Discount -$51.80
Ship $18.80
Distributor $247.99
Coil $37.97
Tires $663.60
Ball Joint Boots $8.00
Door panel Clips $8.95
Wx Strip Pins $2.95
Ship $4.99
Seat Belt Decal $20.98
Sail Panels $32.79
Alternator $44.99
Starter $44.99
Spark plug $17.92
Rad Cap $6.29
Ign Wire Set $42.29
Antiseize $6.74
Fuel Filter $13.49
Tax $15.33
Window Crank $17.98
Key $4.99
Key $4.99
Hood Insul $27.99
Rear View Mirror $49.99
Ant $49.99
Air Cleaner Decal $5.99
Trunk Divider $26.99
Hood Insul Clips $19.99
Spare Tire Hold down $4.99
Tire Trim Rings $99.99
Ship $19.95
Ins $3.95
Discount -$31.40
Guage Console $46.97
Exhaust Kit $453.97
Headlight $15.94
Headlight $15.94
Sealant $26.88
Reducers $25.97
Discount -$20.00
Radiator $262.26
Thremostat & tubing $13.11
Seat Foam $179.98
Hdliner Moldings $69.99
Wshield Molding $39.99
Rear Inner Molding $69.99
Bushing $2.99
Wshield clip $14.99
Svisor suprt $39.98
Wheel Paint $16.99
Wheel Paint $16.99
Sail Panel Blk $39.99
Discount -$113.00
Ship $83.85
Ins $3.95
Trunk Mat $29.95
Shifter Boot $24.95
shifter Boot Retainer $14.95
Discount -$10.48
Ship $15.96
Spray Adhesive $12.49
Door Handle Lock Gaskets $11.72
Pk Brk Grommet $3.74
Wx Strip Kit $250.99
Frt Spoiler $48.99
Rear Spoiler $119.99
rear Spoiler Mt Kit $4.99
Qtr Window Molding $79.99
Rglass Sealer $12.99
Discount -$27.50
Ship $39.95
Ins $3.95
Tubing $4.14
Gear Oil $10.26
Tax $1.22
Steering Wheel $156.99
Pk Bk Grommet $4.99
Ship $9.00
Paint Metal Mask $39.96
Ship $5.95
A-Arm Splash kit $18.95
Fastner Kit $199.95
Rubber Bumper Kit $19.95
Park Light $99.95
Park Light $99.95
Ship $24.89
Paint Book $18.22
Rad Petcock $4.99
F/W Pad $39.99
Vinyl Top $148.99
GM Htr Hose set $24.99
Rad Nuts $3.99
Vinyl Top mdlg $107.99
Wshield clip upper $14.95
Dash Bezel Set $23.95
Wshield clip lwr $14.95
PCV Valve $2.99
Interrior Kit $844.99
Rad Hose $9.99
Rad Hose $8.99
Vly Pan Grommet $4.99
Mtr Mt $9.99
Mtr Mt $9.99
Discount -$109.18
ship $119.80
ins $3.95
Paint Engine $13.98
Paint Engine $6.99
Xmisson gasket $5.99
Xmisson Seal $4.29
Clutch Stud $14.00
Xmission Mt $6.19
Eng Mt $12.98
Clutch $110.99
tax $10.06
discount -$26.31
Paint Engine $13.43
Gear Lube & Sealer $19.32
Gas Tank Sock $8.10
LH Wheel well 1/4 patch $35.10
Gas Tank Neck outer $24.30
Gas tk mtg kit $9.00
gas tk hdw kit $3.60
Gas tk Brace $43.20
ship $20.00
Fuel Hose $3.44
Engine Gasket Kit $82.99
Paint $7.60
Paint $5.63
Spot Putty $7.82
Felpro Gasket Kit $62.42
Tax $5.12
Car $4,500.00
TOTAL $18,564.80

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Rest easy. My car is almost out of paint and then I have to put the interior in. My Excel spreadsheet for my resto mod stands at $53K.

But that's spread over 20 years and I splurged on a lot of things like my 455 engine, aftermarket seats, NOS front fenders, added factory options (that the car did not come with) and a HD 4-pinion posi that had to be rebuilt twice. I wanted it my way.


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Looks like a bargain to me.


I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.
I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe.
1968 400 convertible (Scarlet)
1976 T/A - 455 LE (No Burt)
1976 T/A New baby, starting full restoration.
1968 350 - 4 speed 'vert - 400 clone (the Beast!)
1968 350 convertible - Wife's car now- 400 clone (Aleutian Blue) (Blue Angel)
2008 Durango - DD
2008 GXP - New one from NH is AWESOME!
2017 Durango Citadel - Modern is nice! HEMI is amazing!
1998 Silverado Z71 - Father-daughter project
1968 400 coupe - R/A clone (Blue Pearl) (sold)
1967 326 convertible - Sold frown
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That's not bad at all...


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I've been afraid to add all mine up! Not sure I really want to know.


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Don't be too shocked, I have more than that in the engine and I did it all myself except the machining of the block which the machinist screwed up,


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You did well!
We're over $40k for a similar rebuild back in 2008-2010.

Your Bird looks very nice smile

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I'd say you did very good...


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You did AWESOME! Great job!

I paid $21,500 for my 69 back in August. It's a numbers matching 350 2bbl A/C TH400 car, new interior, body is almost ready for paint (in black primer), has a new 461 (about $7K in receipts just for that), Wilwood brakes, Vintage air, etc. etc.

Considering mine still needs paint, suspension gone through, a couple trim pieces, and a few other random things, I'm still several thousand bucks away from where you are. You made out well, congrats!!!!

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That sounds like a bargain to me. You did very well and the car looks fantastic.

I don't know how much I have in my '67 convertible, but I'm sure it's well over $30,000, and I still have a few little things left to do.


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and taking her out for a sunday drive, Priceless !!!!!!!!!!!

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$15k, that's it? That is one helluva bargain if you ask me. The car looks great and looks like you spent a lot more. I will have most of that amount in body work on mine. I am hoping to be able to get mine done in the $20k-$25k range, hoping.


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I agree, not bad, I stopped counting at the end at $39K and change....I'm sure I have another thousand in to it...and I want redlines now LOL


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Hi Dave,
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And in US dollars to boot! Chump change! lol

You did well my friend.


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1999 JD AWS LX Lawn tractor 17hp (my daily driver)
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I think the answer to the original question is : how tall is a tree?


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Originally Posted By Bjorn Sefeldt
I think the answer to the original question is : how tall is a tree?


That's easy! 92 5/8". That's why they use that length for pre-cut studs! blush


I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.
I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe.
1968 400 convertible (Scarlet)
1976 T/A - 455 LE (No Burt)
1976 T/A New baby, starting full restoration.
1968 350 - 4 speed 'vert - 400 clone (the Beast!)
1968 350 convertible - Wife's car now- 400 clone (Aleutian Blue) (Blue Angel)
2008 Durango - DD
2008 GXP - New one from NH is AWESOME!
2017 Durango Citadel - Modern is nice! HEMI is amazing!
1998 Silverado Z71 - Father-daughter project
1968 400 coupe - R/A clone (Blue Pearl) (sold)
1967 326 convertible - Sold frown
1980 T/A SE Bandit - Sold frown
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Originally Posted By 68tpls400
Originally Posted By Bjorn Sefeldt
I think the answer to the original question is : how tall is a tree?


That's easy! 92 5/8". That's why they use that length for pre-cut studs! blush


I went to Home Depot the other day and asked for a nice 2X4.

They ask me, "How long do you want it?"

I told them, "I plan to keep it forever".


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Originally Posted By Jimc2002
Originally Posted By 68tpls400
Originally Posted By Bjorn Sefeldt
I think the answer to the original question is : how tall is a tree?


That's easy! 92 5/8". That's why they use that length for pre-cut studs! blush


I went to Home Depot the other day and asked for a nice 2X4.

They ask me, "How long do you want it?"

I told them, "I plan to keep it forever".


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I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.
I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe.
1968 400 convertible (Scarlet)
1976 T/A - 455 LE (No Burt)
1976 T/A New baby, starting full restoration.
1968 350 - 4 speed 'vert - 400 clone (the Beast!)
1968 350 convertible - Wife's car now- 400 clone (Aleutian Blue) (Blue Angel)
2008 Durango - DD
2008 GXP - New one from NH is AWESOME!
2017 Durango Citadel - Modern is nice! HEMI is amazing!
1998 Silverado Z71 - Father-daughter project
1968 400 coupe - R/A clone (Blue Pearl) (sold)
1967 326 convertible - Sold frown
1980 T/A SE Bandit - Sold frown
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Originally Posted By 68tpls400
Originally Posted By Bjorn Sefeldt
I think the answer to the original question is : how tall is a tree?


That's easy! 92 5/8". That's why they use that length for pre-cut studs! blush


LOL


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Originally Posted By Jimc2002
Originally Posted By 68tpls400
Originally Posted By Bjorn Sefeldt
I think the answer to the original question is : how tall is a tree?


That's easy! 92 5/8". That's why they use that length for pre-cut studs! blush


I went to Home Depot the other day and asked for a nice 2X4.

They ask me, "How long do you want it?"

I told them, "I plan to keep it forever".


good!


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58 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider Veloce , Gina,(SOLD)
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Your car looks great and that is a bargain!

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I think you did incredibly well! Your car looks great and I hope you enjoy it. I'm way over what you've invested in my 69 and it was a good car to start with.

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My toilet is plugged with cash! F'n money pit man...but I love every minute of it! lol While I still have a pot to piss in ... I progress...


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restoring my 1968 Firebird 400 HO convertible (Firedawg)
1965 Pontiac Catalina Safari Wagon 389 TriPower (Catwagon)
1999 JD AWS LX Lawn tractor 17hp (my daily driver)
2006 Sequoia
2017 Murano (wife's car)
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Great job on the car and the budget!

I think the biggest accomplishment was finding a car that appears like a great start that looked complete AND ran... for $4,500? That's rusted out project car money with no motor or interior!

Every time I look for a car, this is what 5K buys you :

https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/firebird/6643341836.html

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I must be doing something wrong

Car 6000
Engine 14000
Trans/clutch 5600
Rear end/disc brakes 2500
Headers 800
Exhaust 500
Paint/ body 12000......... hopefully geez I’m at 40k+ and I’m not done.

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Originally Posted by Arena
I must be doing something wrong

Car 6000
Engine 14000
Trans/clutch 5600
Rear end/disc brakes 2500
Headers 800
Exhaust 500
Paint/ body 12000......... hopefully geez I’m at 40k+ and I’m not done.


Nope, you are in the same club as everyone else. Spend $50k on restoration to be awarded with a car worth $25k. Grrrr!


I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.
I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe.
1968 400 convertible (Scarlet)
1976 T/A - 455 LE (No Burt)
1976 T/A New baby, starting full restoration.
1968 350 - 4 speed 'vert - 400 clone (the Beast!)
1968 350 convertible - Wife's car now- 400 clone (Aleutian Blue) (Blue Angel)
2008 Durango - DD
2008 GXP - New one from NH is AWESOME!
2017 Durango Citadel - Modern is nice! HEMI is amazing!
1998 Silverado Z71 - Father-daughter project
1968 400 coupe - R/A clone (Blue Pearl) (sold)
1967 326 convertible - Sold frown
1980 T/A SE Bandit - Sold frown
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Originally Posted by 68tpls400
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I must be doing something wrong

Car 6000
Engine 14000
Trans/clutch 5600
Rear end/disc brakes 2500
Headers 800
Exhaust 500
Paint/ body 12000......... hopefully geez I’m at 40k+ and I’m not done.


Nope, you are in the same club as everyone else. Spend $50k on restoration to be awarded with a car worth $25k. Grrrr!



Lol well at least I know I’m on the right track!

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I have kept an Excel spreadsheet through the entire 20 year process. I'm at 55K

I do NOT talk about my Firebird with my financial advisor as I already know he is very much against purchasing RV's and solar panels. wink Hey, it's a hobby!!!!


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1980 Turbo Trans Am
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I would say you did very well! I also keep a spreadsheet on all my builds so I can can ensure I am never upside down on my cars. As a hobbyist I don't keep track of my hours because if I did, I would certainly be in for a very large build cost. I do everything except machine work myself (yes, I paint my cars as well :))


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