F.A.Q.

Q: Factory Radio Identification

I am going to a swap meet this weekend but am not exactly sure how to identify a factory correct radio. Anyone have some codes?

A: Here are the numbers:

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Q: 1967 Body Tag Model Number and RPO Codes

I just bought a 1967 Firebird 400 and I picked up a Firebird ID Numbers book that covers 67-93. According to the book the “series” number is not correct. My number is 67-22637 which translates into 1967, Pontiac divission, series ? (27. The book shows 23 for Firebird), 2 door coupe. Can anyone shed some light? Also, where do you look for the RPO (regular production options) codes?

A:…The Trim Tag Model Number for 1967 Firebird deciphers as follows… 67- Year 2- Division (Pontiac) 2637- Style (26-Custom Trim, 37-Firebird Coupe) The “23” you mention refers to the VIN I.D. number (which didn’t denote Standard or Custom Trim).

The ‘RPO” (Fisher Body Accessory Codes) options are listed on the bottom of the 1967 Firebird Trim Tag. Examples: L, 2GW, 3F, 4Q *3F denotes the “400” option for 1967 Firebird.

A:You can find some more information about the RPO Codes which is often times called Five Group Accessory Codes:

• FAQ for Five Group Accessory Codes

• Application to decipher your Body Tag

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Q: Body Tag Assembly Date

The body tag on my car is missing and I’m wondering what the assembly date would have been. Can any of the dates shown on the PHS documentation be coorelated to the assembly date? Was it a random generated number?

A: There are companies that reproduce the firewall Fisher Body Trim Tag. As for the Build Date Code on this tag, it was unique to the ‘shell’ of the vehicle and would not appear on the Billing History. The only other place this would appear is on the original Warranty Protec-to-Plate. Generally, the Body Build Date was about a week before the Billing History Invoice Date. Sometimes this varied but usually only on special order vehicles (RAII, Show Cars, etc). The difference being that the Body Tag Date was when the Body was sequenced for build by Fisher Body. The Invoice Date was when it actually was ‘cleared’ to leave Final Assy and Certification (just prior to shipping). So, from start to finish, it took about a week or so to build the complete car. If you send me your VIN, I can check it against the Registry Files and probably come up with a pretty close Body Build Date Code based on other VINs close to your’s.

A: Actually, the Fisher Body Unit Number was not randomly assigned. It was generated from ordering info and created by Sequencing (Broadcast). This number represented a specific build order within a batch for a specific time-frame. Factors that Fisher Body used when converting a dealer/customer order into a Body Unit Number included…. Exterior Colors, Models, Options, Special Orders. Just as it is today, cars were not necessarily built in the exact sequence they were ordered. In the world of mass produced vehicles, orders are processed based on production scheduling which in turn is established using many different variables. There was most certainly a process standard for assigning Body Unit Numbers however, I’m not aware of any factory documentation that survived. The Camaro Research Group has been trying to decipher this same issue for several years; What we do know is based primarily on common-practice and first-hand from former and current production plant employees.

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Q: Body Unit Number

The number on the body tag (firewall) and the Fisher Unit number, how were these sequenced.

Also, how does the build date on the Body Tag correlate to the Billing date from GM? How long did it take to put the entire car together?

A: The Fisher Body Unit Number found on the Firewall Trim Tag was unique to each assay plant and was not a sequential number nor was it sequential with the VIN or any other number or build-date information.

The Unit Number was an internal Fisher Body Number used for sequencing the build of a vehicle relative to certain production factors such as color, model, options, etc.

Once the order was placed by a dealership, PMD routed this to the Plant for scheduling by the Broadcast Dept. That particular order was assigned for build according to the above factors and not necessarily in the order it was received.

If the same dealership ordered 2 different Firebirds on the same day, one a 6cyl verdoro green coupe and the other a Ram Air I black conv, chances are the coupe would be sequenced for build first. Both may have similar VINs but the Body Unit Number could vary quite a bit. Here’s an example:

VIN- 164250 Body Unit No.- 4886
VIN- 164279 Body Unit No.- 7679

The Build Date on the Trim Tag was assigned by Fisher Body when the Sequence Number was assigned and scheduled for build. This represents the Month/Week when the body began to take form in the body-shop (Body in White- BIW). Again, there are factors here that dictate how long it took for a Body in White to be fully assembled and roll off the Final Assy Line. Part availability, Drivetrain availability and color all factored in. Generally, it took less than a week from the time a body received it’s Trim Tag until it left Final and the Certification/Buy-Off Line. Once a vehicle was painted and transferred from the Fisher Body Facility to the Final Assy Plant, it generally only took a day to complete the car.

The Billing History Invoice Date was the date that the vehicle was “bought-off” after Final Assy. This is buy-off initiated the billing and delivery process. It’s not uncommon to find some vehicles with a few weeks between the Body Build Date and Invoice Date due to special orders (colors, engines, etc.).

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Q: Fisher Body Sequence Number

My body tag has 111 to the left of the build date code (05C) on the top line. What does this code mean?

A: The three digit codes in this location are most likely Fisher Body Sequence Number (for production).

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Q: 1967 Five Group Accessory Code System

Need help decoding the following for a 1967 Convertible, if anyone could help out i would really appreciate it. i noticed that running the vin # and body tag number on oakmediacreations firebird page the production numbers of the vehicle didnt match one another.

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Firewall Tag: (as close to possible in the actual locations)

278     07B
ST  67-22667      LOR     9854   Body
TR  256-Z                  K-2   Paint
		  EX  2EWGH  3M
		  4F   5Y
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A: 278…. This code sometimes found in the upper LH corner or the Trim Tag is most likely the Fisher Body Sequence Number (for production).

A: The consecutive build number codes (9854) found on the body tag will not match the sequential production number code (102345) on the VIN. These numbers had different meanings at the plants.

A: Group codes and their meanings. If you have numbers that are different, register your car with Generation-1 Registry since they are working on deciphering the meanings to these codes. There are many codes that are unknown. These codes were used at the factory to determine what cars needed special modifications. These modifications then correlated with additional options/modifications. Unfortunately for the restorer, these codes were discontinued after the 1967 model.

1st Group (Digit not shown)
D…. Power Convertible Top
E…. Soft-ray Tinted Glass (All Windows)
L…. Folding Rear Seat (Firebird)
O…. Two-tone Paint (Chrome separator strip)
T…. Power Seat – bucket, left seat only
V…. Remote Control Deck Lid Release
W…. Soft-ray Tinted Glass (Windshield Only)
X…. Power Windows
Y…. Power Seat – Bench

2nd Group (2)
A…. Foam Bench Seat Cushion (non-GTO)
B…. 3-spd Manual Transmission Floor Shift
C… ???
E…. Air Conditioning, diff ducting (Firebird, GTO)
F…. ???
G…. Console
H…. Heater Delete
K…. A/C
L…. 4-spd Manual Transmission Floor Shift
R…. Rear Seat Speaker
S…. Rear-mounted Manual Antenna
T…. Rear-mounted Power Antenna
U…. Stereo 8 Track Tape System
V…. Verba-Phonic Rear Speaker
W…. 2-spd Automatic Transmission
Z…. 3-spd Automatic Transmission

3rd Group (3)
B…. Rear Window Defogger
C…. ??
D…. ??
F…. 400 Option (Firebird)
H…. Rally Stripe (Firebird)
J…. custom option (?)
K…. Dome Courtesy Lamp
M…. 326 HO Option (Firebird)
N…. Roof Rail Reading Lamps
W…. ??

4th Group (4)
F….. Outside Remote Control Mirror
Q…. Fullsize Spare Tire (Firebird)

5th Group (5)
B…. Luggage Light (KAN plant only)
C…. Shoulder Belts, Front Seat (Firebird)
J…. Underhood Light
M…. Rear Center Seat Belt
P…. Luggage Light (FRA and PON plants)
Y…. Deluxe Front Seat Belts
Z…. Shoulder Belts, front seat (GTO)

A: If you have more special codes to add to this list and want to help solve some of the mysteries, send them to us using the “Report a Problem” button at the bottom of this page or use the contact link below and found in the pull-down menu above. Every little insight will help solve these mysteries.

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Q: Body Tag Code K464

I haven’t been able to find the K464 code anywhere. Has anybody ever seen this code?

 05D            K464
 ST 68-22437 LOS 3573 BODY
 TR 253            I-2

A: This number was an internal sequence number used at the Van Nuys Assembly Plant. It does not have any connection with the Body Unit Number, VIN, Engine Unit Number or Invoice Number. It was strictly a Plant Sequencing Number. So far, no GM or Fisher Body documentation has been discovered that would decipher this number. On the Body Broadcast Copy and Chassis Broadcast Copy (‘Build Sheet’ sometimes found under the seat, etc), there is a box for “Sequence” Number. Lordstown did not use the same numbering system as Van Nuys nor did they put it on the Trim Tag. Unfortunately, Van Nuys Firebirds rarely (if ever) left the plant with either of these sheets still in the car. (If anyone has ever found one, I’d be very interested in a copy). The Sequence Number is derived from the Dealer Order Number. There are a few Firebirds in the Registry with very close VINs that do not have sequential Body Number and/or Sequence Numbering. In other words, the Plant Assigned Numbers do not have a direct association with the VIN.

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Q: Body Tag Code C363

What does the c363 mean I cant find it any where.

	04d                                        c363    
ST 68-22637         LOS         1721
TR 259                                       I-I

A: The code you refer to comes from the Van Nuys, CA Assy Plant. Since no formal documentation has surfaced as to exactly what that code represents, the best guess is an internal plant – Fisher Body sequencing code. Somewhat connected to the vehicle order number. It has no significance with regard to the VIN, Body number, date or options.

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Q: Body Tag Special Codes

I have a question about a 1969 body tag. The second line has TR, 208, then a 1967, then “B”, PNT (Black Morrokide interior, Burgundy exterior, black vinyl top). Their third line has the 12D in it (December 1969 build date) and about an inch over is a “T339”. What would T339 code for on the 1969 tag?

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Firewall Tag:

ST-69 22367 VN 516941 Body
TR 208        67B    Paint
	   12D	   T339

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A: Each Plant in 1969 (Los Angeles, Lordstown, Norwalk) used a different code system for In-Plant tracking, special-options, etc. The code “T339” is one of them. Since no records from the plants have ever surfaced, this is hard to decipher.

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Q: Vin, Body Tag, and Engine Code Information

Running the vin number and body tag number on oakmediacreations firebird page the production numbers of the vehicle didn’t match one another plus what do the codes on the engine stand for:

Block Casting numbers on R/F of engine (only numbers I can see)
GM4

Stamped numbers on the right front of engine block
508743
YJ

A: This is correct, these two numbers found on the body tag and the VIN will not match. The numbers on the VIN represent the Sequential Production Number. The numbers on the Body Tag represent the Unit Number or consecutive build number. The last tells in sequence when the car came off the assembly line. Again, the body tag number will not match the actual sequential VIN number.

Block Casting numbers on R/F of engine (only numbers I can see) GM4
I do not know what these represented on the block.

Stamped numbers on the right front of engine block
508743 = Motor Unit Number
YJ = 8 cyl, 326 cid, 250 hp, 9.2:1 comp. ratio, 2 bc carb, auto trans.

Sources: Firebird Red Book, Catalog of Firebird ID Numbers 1967-93, Pontiac Historic Services, Year One Catalog

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Q: Paint Code is SPECIAL-1 on My 1968

We are trying to get the body tag for our 1968 Firebird. The problem we are having is with the paint code. It says the paint code is special-1. Is there another code for that?

A: You have the “Special Paint Option” which is indicated by ‘special’. When the original owners ordered their car they wanted a color that Pontiac did not offer as an optional color. These colors in 1968 were normally Pink Mist, Carnival Red, Marigold Yellow, or Windward Blue Irid (Irid. means metallic with all others solid).

A: Keep in mind that some of these colors were a Spring release, late year option. Also any color was avaliable as an option if the OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) could supply it. I’ve seen Cars with SPEC on data plate and they had an extra QT of paint shipped with them.

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Q: Paint Code PRIME-2 on 1968

We are having a problem with the paint code found on the body tag. It says the paint code is PRIME-2. Is there another code for this?

A: I’ve heard of several cars with special paint codes or PRIME-XXX Various reasons for this I’m sure.. special order, race cars, company cars requiring special paint. Not a common thing to see. The ‘2’ represents Black top.

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Q: SHOW-1 Paint Code

My body tag has “show 1” where the paint codes should be. What does this mean.

A: In regards to your question about a “Show 1” Body Tag, yes I have seen those before on a GTO as well as other makes/models. They are quite rare because they were generally very early production vehicles (but not always). Even to this day, the auto companies produce “SHOW” vehicles early in production. Working in Advance Mfg. at DaimlerChrysler, I see vehicles with these same Body Tags… “SHOW 1”, “SHOW 2”, etc. Also see: “PILOT” and “SPEC” as well.

Generally, these special build vehicles were scheduled during the pre-production phase by Engineering or Styling. A “SHOW” Build is built on the regular Line but is treated special and fit/finish are very usually a little better. Paint is also unique and given an extra shine. As with most pre-production or even some early build vehicles, many were destroyed due to various test requirements. A “SHOW” vehicle would have survived if no other Dept. requested it after it’s purpose of “Show” was over. Example: Usually, every fall, the Plants will run a few “SHOW” vehicles for Detroit AutoRama. When the new Grand Cherokee came out in ’92, I personally remember seeing (3) “SHOW” vehicles built. All were Red and each had an ‘escort’ to ensure all trim/exterior parts were show worthy. In addition to the Body Trim Tags stating the vehicles purpose (BTW, at Chrysler, these Tags are temporarily ‘wire-tied’ to the front lower cross member until mid-way through the Chassis Line). “SHOW” vehicles have special Broadcast Sheets as well as hand-written sheets attached to all sides to let Operators know that this vehicle is to be treated special. To find a “SHOW” 1st Gen. Firebird is indeed a rare thing. Finding the Broadcast Sheet would be an interesting discovery. If I can answer any similar questions, feel free to let me know.

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Q: Headrest Option

I have a 1968 convertible with the headrests. Is this original equipment?

A: Should have checked closer instead of going from memory.

1. From Billing Card/Manifest:

   • 1967 Head Restraints Code 572

   • 1968 Head Restraints Code 572

   • 1969 Nothing Listed, which means ??

2. Sales Manual:

   • 1968 head restraints Code 571 for $52.66

3. Body Tags:

   • 1967 has codes for head restraints (Z = Bucket Seats without headrests, Y = Bucket Seats with headrests, H = Standard Bench Seat)

   • 1968 my references do not have codes

   • 1969 my references do not have codes

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Q: Special Paint Option CODE SPR and Carousel Red for 1969

I have a couple of questions regarding the info I have received on my Firebird from PHS.

What is the significance of the special paint option CODE SPR? Mine is carousel red. What is special about that ?

Does anyone know what the last 2 items on the options list are. They are:

OPTIONAL LOC CODE 011
ADV.ASSN.COL CODE 011 $10.00

A: * Carousel Red was a Special Order Paint in 1969 for Firebird

A: The ADV.ASSN.COL that is shown on a dealer invoice means “Advertising Association Collected”. The local dealer advertising groups will charge a certain amount for each car to fund the tv and local newspaper ads.

OPTIONAL LOC means that the car was unloaded by the driver of the car carrier at the dealers “Optional Location”. Many dealers have a different location or storage lot, where they store their new-car inventory.

I assure you that neither of the notes on an invoice are showing this car, or any car as being used for promotional purposes! By the way………… lots of invoices had these notes. They are nothing special.

The story on Carousel Red is a good one, but there is absolutely no truth to it! Pontiac did release four (4) special order colors for 1968. These colors were:

Windward Blue, Goldenrod Yellow, Pink and the equivalent of Carousel Red. These colors were available on all 1968 Pontiacs, not just the Firebird. To the best of my knowledge, the reasoning for releasing these special colors was that both Ford and Chrysler had some very popular “bright” colors, including an orange in their color lineup. Remember, this was the psychedelic era! This was GM’s response to those offerings, nothing more!!!

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Q: Deviations from Normal Codes on a 1969 Body Tag

I recently purchased a 1969 Firebird with a body tag as follows:

ST 69-22367        VN514538  BDY
TR 206		         73  G  PNT
	  12C		S093

What I am puzzled over is the G in the body tag. I have pictures with what is supposed to be the original top and I have the original boot. Both items match the color of the interior which is midnight green. What does the G stand for????

A: I’d have to say that the “VN” is just a variation for the Van Nuys Plant loc. code. There are others within the Registry with this same variation. One is a “2B” date code….. VN512949 and the other is a “12C” date code….. VN513857. “73” is obviously the Fisher Body code ofr Verdoro Green. The only listing I find using the “G” is Pontiac Factory Coding which used “G” for Antique Gold. This may be a legit color that has just not been published in any lists yet or, it could be a typo or mis-read. My guess is that the paint was Verdoro Green and the conv. top was Antique Gold which is listed on the 1969 Order Form as an “Upper Color”… “G”.. Antique GoldPlease fwd. the photo again of the Trim Tag (as a .jpg please). I couldn’t get it to open.

A: The information that is found on Fisher Body tags, especially the 1968-9 tags, don’t tell you anything about a car, except the body style, color and the trim. Even then, I’ve seen some deviations in this information, from one plant to another and even from shift to shift at the same plant! Remember these cars were built in “BC” (Before Computer) and a lot was left to human interpetation.

For the most part Fisher Body used the GM corporate codes for body color and top color, as opposed to the codes that were used by the divisions, in this case Pontiac. Code “73” converts to Pontiac code “Q”, for Verdoro Green. The “G” that immediately follows, converts to Pontiac code “9” for Dark Green. At least the trim codes are the same for #206, or Standard Green Vinyl. Confussed??? So are all of us so-called experts!!! 1969 is the worst of the bunch!

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Q: 1969 Upper Body Color is “F”

I have a 1969 Firebird with a paint code of 61F. The paint is Expresso Brown the original vinyl top was dark brown but I cant find a code or match anywhere. Any suggestions?

A: Let’s see if this helps. I believe “PNT 61” is correct for Expresso Brown, I am going on a questionable memory here as I can’t put my hands on my paint charts. In 1969, the colors were designated by a confusing crossover of numbers from the Order Form to the firewall Data Plate. If you ordered Expresso Brown, you checked off letter “B” on the form, and if you wanted a vinyl top option (called the Cordova Top) you checked a number, in this case number “8” for Dark Fawn.

My 1969 Firebird Order Form shows 5 available Cordova Top colors:
2=black
3=dark blue
5=parchment
8=dark fawn
9=dark green

In the case of convertibles:
1=white
2=black
3=dark blue
9=dark green

On the Firewall Data Plate, they are shown as:
A=white (convertible)
B=black (all)
C=dark blue (all)
E=parchment (coupe)
?=dark fawn (coupe)
G=dark green (all)

I cannot remember ever making note of what dark green and dark fawn are represented by in letter form, but the ones I DO know are the corresponding number positions of those letters in the alphabet, but I am willing to guess there’s more to this. I don’t think I’ve ever seen letters “H” and “I” on Data Plates. If this sequence follows, then numbers 8 and 9 for dark fawn and dark green would be the 8th and 9th letters of the alphabet, but I cannot find anything to prove this. Looking at the sequence with question marks in place of letters, one might imagine letters “F” and “G” fitting there.

My guess then is that code “F”, the 6th letter, likely represents the Dark Fawn Cordova Top Option.

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Q: 1968 Body Tag – Interior Code 281

My body tag has interior code 281. I can not find this in any of the resource books. My interior is brown if that helps.

A: Brown/tan interior *was* offered in 1968. I can attest to this because my 1968 FB was ordered with and has the saddle (tan) leather interior (trim code 281). In addition, the car if original, should have matching brown/tan/goldish dash pad. Lastly the convert boot and deluxe wheel (if applicable) should also be tan/brown to match the tan/brown interior. Keep in mind though that 281 leather option was a late year addition (early June) so check your invoice date (billing history) to see when your bird was invoiced.

BTW, what do your door panels look like? The 281 option used tan/brown vinyl with a “faux leather grain” finish. (Quite bizarre looking actually…)

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Q: Axle Codes for 1967 and 1968

How do I identify the Sales Code for the axle ratio that is shown on the Billing History cards.

A: In 1967, the ratio will be shown in the box marked 74 and in 1968, it will be shown in box 37. In both instances, the codes used to identify the axle ratio will be the same and they are as follows:

C = 2.56:1
D = 2.78:1
E = 2.93:1
F = 3.08:1
G = 3.23:1
H = 3.36:1
K = 3:55:1
P = 3.90:1
S = 4.33:1

Note: Do not confuse these Sales Codes with the two-digit code that is stamped on the axle tube.

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Q: Rear End Code Facts

I am confused by the codes found on the rear end.

A: After reading all the comments, I thought I’d better give some facts. The 1967 Firebird axle housings have the loops (where control arm bushings would mount) on top of the center chunk as if they were getting A-body control arms, but they also have the spring perches for leaf springs, and the brackets for the factory style “traction bars”. There should also be a date code cast into the center section somewhere. In 1968 they left off the control arm bushing loops and the traction bar mounts, but seemed to use the same codes as 1967. In 1969 the date code position moved from one side of the center section to the other, but I can’t get to my rearend housings to see which are which. Another change from 1968 to 1969 was the addition of flattened spots on top of the axle tubes where the snubbers meet the housing, 1967 and 1968 did NOT have the flat spots. Again, check your cast date codes if at all readable.

Also, all 3 years had the 2-letter stamped code in roughly the same position, about 3-5 inches to the LEFT of the center section, on the rear of the left axle tube (left being the driver’s side of the car). Many times it is obscured by the steel brake line – you’ll need to loosen the clip welded to the axle tube and raise the brake line a bit to see it.

The 1969 codes were different. Here’s the list (first the open ratio, then the posi):

I hope this clears up some confusion and misinformation. Whenever possible, ask about date codes (same style of codes as engine parts), axle codes (rear of left tube), spring perch depth (67 Monoplates are shallow), whether it has the extra brackets for traction bars (67 only), or if there are flattened spots on top (69 only).

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Q: Engine Serial Number does NOT Match Vehicle Identification Number

I was told buy one of my local specialty wrecking yards that the engine serial number and the VIN number didn’t always match from the factory. I’m inclined to believe him. My 1968 convertible was built in Los Angles and it’s all original. Nowhere in my delivery documentation does the engine serial number appear, only the VIN and Body Tag data. My engine and VIN don’t match – not even close. What’s the truth here?

A: Short Answer:
* The VIN on the car should match the VIN on the Engine (68 & up)
* The Engine Unit (Serial) Number was a separate number stamped on the Engine. This number has nothing to do with the VIN and appears with the VIN on the Billing History.
So, you are correct when you say the Serial Number and VIN did not always match. Infact, they will NEVER match because they are different/separate numbers. If the VIN on the front of the Block matches the VIN on the Dash, that is the original correct engine for that car. You can also search for the B’Cast Sheet in the car, that will also ‘authenticate’ your car.

A: Engine ‘Serial’ Number (manifest number) has no connection whatsoever to the Vehicle Identification Number. This number was used within the Plant for sequencing. There is a VIN stamped on the block however that should match the VIN on the car. This is stamped on the front, lower face of the block next to the timing chain cover (way down low near the harmonic balancer). People have tried explaining the purpose of the Engine Serial Number yet, nothing official from PMD has ever surfaced explaining when it was stamped and for what exactly it was used for. My guess is that is was used by scheduling/sequencing in order to match a particular engine with a specific car. The VIN would have most likely been stamped on the engine just prior to going into the car.

While working on the 1967, 1968, and 1969 Firebird Registry, I have found that you can have two cars with very close VIN numbers and yet, their Engine Block Serial Numbers are hundreds (or even thousands) of numbers a part. The Engine Serial (Unit) Number can be found on the Broadcast Sheet and the Billing History Sheet. Once the car was built, only the VIN had any significance since the car, engine and trans (manual only) were tied together through it.

Here’s another clue about the Engine Unit Number…. Looking through Service Bulletins, if an engine issue is addressed, most everytime the Engine Unit Number is mentioned. Example: for the 1967 Firebird w/Ram Air, there were two types of Engines; the 1st Type was used up through Engine Unit Number 646615. The 2nd Type started at 646616. Another Bulletin addresses the issue of 1967 Cylinder Head Oil Return Passage Modifications. It lists those vehicles involved including the range of VIN numbers and the Engine Production Number involved. Based on these examples, I would say the Engine Serial (Unit, Production, Manifest) Number was stamped onto the block somewhere within the Engine Assembly Line (not the foundary) along with the Engine Usage or Application Code (Two-Letter). I say this because the Foundary did not assemble the engine and had no idea whether it was going into a GTO or Firebird and if it was to be a manual or automatic Engine. Once the Engine Assembly Line received the Block, scheduling would have given it a specific Usage Code (2-Letter) in order for the Line to install the correct components on the Engine. Perhaps the Engine Unit Number was stamped at this point as well (according to scheduling/sequencing). At some point following the Engine Assembly, the Engine Unit Number was ‘connected’ to a VIN in order for the Plant to know which engine to ‘pick’ (or schedule) for a specific car.

I doubt that 30yrs ago, the assembly plants were using the same sequencing (or “Just in Time”) delivery methods we use today however, I’m sure they did have some sort of scheduling/sequencing system. Also remember that the engine had a large white label with red letters attached over the two-letter code stamped on the front of the block. This was another aid in determining usage/application for a specific engine (much easier to read this white/red label than to squint to see the 2-letter stamped code). Anyhow, That’s my ‘long-winded’ opinion on the issue of Engine Unit Numbers.

A: I used to work at the GM assembly plant if Fremont, CA. Engines came fully assembled less optional accessories. I’m sure this was the case at the sister LA pant as well. When the engine s/n number was stamped I don’t know. But I do know that sometimes there were problems with engines after they were installed and were swapped out at the plant. Also, sometimes there were problems like more bodies than engines (remember Buick engines going into Chevys – it’s true!), and they would grab whatever engine they could find and throw it in to keep the line moving. For what it’s worth!

A: …Yes, Engine usually came to most Final Assembly Plants fully assembled. (Not always the case though). In addition to a Forging/Casting Plant, there was also an Engine Plant where they were assembled. I’d guess this is where the engine received its Serial Number stamp. This number was used by the Final Assembly Plant (for the vehicle) to coordinate scheduling/sequencing for the engine to body. No matter what the situation in the Plant, I seriously doubt that they would grab whatever engine they could to keep the line moving. Especially after ’67. Engines were sequenced with the body and were controlled for many reasons. The case of the Chevy/Buick engines was unique and different. Despite the mix of engines, all still had serial/VIN numbers stamped on them and they matched a specific car. It’s not like there was just this big batch of engines and a Line Operator going.. “eenie meenie minee moe….”

A: The VIN got stamped on the block starting in 1968. I have a 1968 Ram Air I, and the VIN on the block, just to the left (looking at the front of the engine) of the timing cover, matches the last 6 numbers of the VIN. This number can”t be seen unless you remove the lower radiator hose from the water pump housing, or if you get a mirror and shine a light down by the harmonic balancer, you can see it

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Q: Custom Trim Option (Code 554)

My billing history indicates my 1968 came with custom trim. What was included with this option?

A: For the 1968 Firebird, the Custom Trim Option (554) included the following….

Custom Seat Covers (Morrokide and stitched knit vinyl)
Custom Molded Door and Quarter Trim Panels, Assist Bar (above Glovebox) Dual Horns, Deluxe Wheel Covers, Deluxe Steering Wheel, Custom Pedal Trim, Front & Rear Wheel Opening Moldings, Drip Rail Mldgs (Coupes), Windshield Pillar Garnish Mldg. There are some who have been saying (in error) that only those cars with the Custom Trim Option had the etched white ‘Bird’ on the front side glass; this is not so and has been proven by many original STANDARD trim Firebirds.

The RH sideview mirror was not a part of the Custom Trim Option.
Many owners upgraded or opted to delete certain things beyond the Custom Trim Option (wheel opening mldgs, wheel covers, steering wheel). Additionally, all of the components of the Custom Trim Option could be ordered separately on a Standard Trim car except for the Custom Seats and Trim Panels and Assist Bar

A: Use following link to find more information about the Custom Trim Option on FGF: More Information

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Q: Decoding Engine, Carburetor, Manifolds

I know I had a reference to decode some of these numbers, but I have forgotten if it was a book or website. My engine has ‘YR’ and ‘33202’ stamped just to the left of the top of the water pump, and ’23N108627′ stamped below the water pump. The intake manifold has ‘E220’ cast into it and the exhaust manifold has ‘9796155’ cast into it. The numbers on the carb are 17054905 and just below, 2738. Would someone please tell me what these codes mean. Thanks.

A:
YR ….. This is the specific Engine Usage/Type Code
33202…. This is the Engine Unit Number
23N108627…. This is the partial VIN, unique to the car the engine came from
E220….. This is a Date Code (May 22 ’70 ?)
9796155… This is a Part/Casting Number
17054905…. This is the Usage Code for a Rochester Carb
2738….. This is the Build Date Code (273rd day of 1968 ?)

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Q: Engine Codes

I am currently in the process of having my engine for my 1967 400 Convertible rebuilt. The mechanic has cross-referenced the (YD) code to a 1967 400, but it says it is a 2 barrell, and my engine has a 4 barrell. I am unable to find a cross reference for the engine code under the 1967 sectioin of this site. I do not see the letters referenced in this section. Can someone help me?

The code on the block is: 0081718 YD
Also stamped is: 20P105982

A: The 20P105982 is your clue to what that engine really came from. The first zero means it’s from a 1970 car, and the letter “P” means it was from a car built at the Pontiac assembly plant, where that year they were building full-sized cars like Catalina and Bonneville. The YD for that year indicates a 2 barrel 400, 290 gross HP from a Pontiac, meaning big car. Although the chart I have says a 10.0:1 compression ratio, it does not say what head cast numbers were used.

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Q: 400 Engine Block Code for 1967

I’m trying to decipher a code cast into the block on my 1967 firebird. The code is located near to where the distributor fits into the block. I think it is the cast date of the block but I would like to know for sure. The code is 86133. (As best as I can tell).

I know this isn’t the sequential build number, (serial number), of the block since that is locate on the front on the block on the passenger side of the car.

I’d appreciate any information you can provide.

A: That is the blank block casting number. It’s like a part number. According to my info the whole number is 9786133. This denotes a 1967 400 cid block. I got the info from a book called Pontiac Muscle car performance 1955-1979 by Pete McCarthy

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Q: Engine Unit Number Does Not Match

The engine unit number stamped on my 1968 does not match the Billing History but I know it is an original engine. The engine code is WK, and the number next to that is 205848, engine unit production number per the Firebird page Tech info and has no reference to VIN number. Then the “engine unit number isted on the PHS Billing history is 205818. Note the number varies in one number: 4 vs 1. Could this be a miss stamp or some type of mistake.

A: Engine Unit Number is the number stamped on the fron of the Block next to the Engine Code. Also found on the Billing History. These numbers should be the same. The Engine Unit Number and partial VIN were stamped on manually and were not as deep as the Code stamp. Also, there was not alot of quality assurance & certification back in 1968.

The Gang-Stamp Tool could have slipped during the strike causing a partial stamp. Wouldn’t doubt that a mis-stamp could have happened either. Considering the numbers you shared are so close, seems obvious they are one in the same… despite their seemingly different appearance. I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it. Who would believe that you had the wrong engine and it just happened to be 30 units different from the original ?

A: My guess is that the digit “4 ” is correct and that the digit”1″ stamped into your block is a weak stamping of the number “4”.Ive seen several weak stampings of production #s and VIN #s Some of which appeared to even skip a digit. This was actually a very weak stamping and had only a small portion of the number visable. Take a real close look, Im betting its a 4.

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Q: Engine Code Confusion for 1969

I’m completely confused about the the engine serial # vs. the partial vin # on the engine….

A: In 1969, the partial VIN was stamped on the front, RH face of the Engine. It could also be found on Manual Transmissions in addition to the “hidden” partial VINs stamped onto the Body Shell. Besides the VIN plate attached to the upper RH Cowl (dash), there was also a Fisher Body Trim Tag attached to the RH Cowl (firewall).

Documentation for the 1969 Firebird (sequentially listed) consisted of:

1) Chassis Broadcast Copy (for engine/chassis Line Workers)
2) Body Broadcast Copy (for Trim & Final Line Workers)
3) Car Billing Invoice (for accounting)
4) Window Sticker (for dealer/customer)
5) Owner Protection Warranty Protecto-Plate

The VIN was used to identify the Vehicle Division, Assembly Plant, Body Style, Vehicle Series, Production Model Year, Engine Type (6cyl, V-8) and Sequential Unit Number. (NOTE: Vehicles were not always built completely sequentially per VIN) ((More on that later)). The VIN is found on all Documentation.

The Fisher Body Unit Number was used during the Scheduling Phase for both Fisher Body and the Final Assembly Plant. For 1969, this included Lordstown, Norwood and Van Nuys. Each plant used a different method for assigning this number. Despite what many people claim, this number was NOT entirely a Sequential Unit Number. Vehicles were built in batches; The VIN was assigned from a batch set of numbers. Build Scheduling was based on many factors and not simply on who ordered first. As with the VIN issue, the Body Unit Number requires a more in-depth explanation. ((coming soon to a web-site near you)). The Body Unit Number can be found on the Broadcast Copies, Protecto-Plate and the Window Sticker.

Starting in 1969, the Fisher Body Unit Number and Identification Number (as noted on the Broadcast Copy) were both the same numbers. On the Car Billing Invoice, there was another type of Identification Number used for accounting purposes only.

The Invoice also noted the “Dealer Order Number” (for accounting).

The Broadcast Copies also used a “Sequence Number” (3-digits). This was used for scheduling batch builds at Fisher Body. No sequential connection to any other numbers.

The Trim Tag Date Code refered to the Fisher Body Scheduled Build Date (week & month). This was for the “Body in White” (bare shell) and not the Final, fully assembled vehicle. The closest date for Final Assembly can be found on the Invoice. There were (3) different dates identified: – “Date Shipped”, “Date of Note”, “Date of Execution” The “Date Shipped” would usually be no later than a few days of when the vehicle actually left the Final Line Certification Buy-Off.

The Engine Unit Number for the 1969 Firebird (stamped on the RH front face of the Block) was used during Engine Assembly (Sub & Final) and for the Engine Installation Sequence at the Final Assembly Plant. The Engine Unit Number can be found on the Protecto-Plate and the Chassis Broadcast Copy (not Body Broadcast). Starting in 1969, the Engine Unit Number was not used on the Car Invoice. Once the Vehicle left Final Assembly, the only purpose for the Engine Unit Number was for Warranty related work which is why it was stamped onto the Protecto-Plate. The Accounting Dept. used the VIN and their own “Identification Number” found only on the Car Billing Invoice (microfiche files from PMD). This Number was used for billing between the Assembly Plant, Accounting and the Destination Dealer.

In order to verify a correct numbers matching 1969 Firebird, the VIN on the Dash must match the VIN on the front of the Engine Block. Unless you have the original Protecto-Plate, the Engine Unit Number cannot be verified since it was not related to any other vehicle number.

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Q: Engine Date Code for 1967

I have confirmed that the engine number on my 1967 is: 415371 is the motor unit number, YT is the engine code: 400 AT with AIR, and the number on the distributor pad, is actually 9786133 and denotes a 1967 400 cid block.

What I am curious about is if there is any sort of build date number located anywhere on the block or encoded in the motor unit number itself. The reason I am interested is that I would like to find another 1967 YT motor for my car. The build date on my car is 03 B, which translates into the second week of March. Since GM didn’t start stamping the engine blocks with the car’s VIN until 1968, all I need to do is locate a 1967 YT block which has a build date of prior to the second week in March, providing the blocks have/had any build dates associated with them in the first place.

So, if I am going to go through the hassle and expense of finding another YT block, I need make sure that the block I do find would actually be date correct for my car.

A: I got the following email reply to a simliliar post I did to rec.autos.antique. It explains where the date code is, and how to decode it. I checked on my motor and sure enough, my date code is B157, which is a build date of 2/15/67. Which makes perfect sense if the build date of the car was the second week of March. So, I thought I would share the information with the list:

You probably saw the build date code and just didn’t recognize it. On the top surface around the distributor hole you will find a code that starts with a letter and has 3 digits. The letter indicates the month, the next two digits are the day, the last digit is the last digit of the year. In your case a correct date code might be B077. This would read “B” = February, “07” = 7th day of the month, “7” = 1967.

The only time this gets fuzzy is with the use of the letter “i”. Some factories skipped the letter so that it would not be confused with a “1”. However this is not a perfect rule, some factories did use it but not all. The other problem you will have is that since your vehicle was built early in 1967 there are a lot fewer motors to choose from as Pontiac just moved from the 389 to the 400 in ’67. To be totally authentic you need a date code within about three months of your build date. Engines weren’t left laying around any longer than that and a judge in the really picky levels of competition will count off for anything outside of that.

A: Check out the date code near the distributor. It’s 4 digits, starts with a letter and 3 numbers. The letter is the month A=Jan, B=Feb…the last digit is the year. Starting in sometime in Sept the engine would be for the next model year. If you have any questions, post the code.

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Q: Saddle Leather Int (281) 1968

While we are on the topic of seat material, can you clear up for me when the leather seats became available and in what colors?

A: Leather was an option in late 1968 on the Firebird starting June 6th 1968. It was only available with the Custom Trim Option and was only available in one color…. code 281 which a Saddle color. This is a very rare option and has only been documented on a few 1968 Firebirds in the Registry.

A: I have taken several pics (yet to be scanned though) of the interior of my RA convert which has factory ‘saddle trim’ (ie leather). the leather was just redone this past spring but it is nearly identical in color feel and apperance as the original. the rest of the interior is factory orig. the door panesl are ‘faux’ leather grain. the backs of the seats are orig (and are also tan). the dask is gold/tan and is in great condition but looks very different (ie when you are VERY used to seeing first gens with the black and occasional red dashes). other oddities of this option include a ‘tan’ carpet as standard. also my deluxe wheel is tan to match the interior. again, ill gladly post what i have if anyone would like to the set up.

A: The URLs for the saddle leather interior (281) for his 1968 RA I are found at the following links:

A: In response to his’s query about leather, it was offered in several GM cars, my 1969 album shows leather in Bonneville Brougham convertible (black only) and available in the Grand Prix (green, gold, black) as well as Firebird (trim 293 gold). The 1968 Firebird also offered leather (trim 281 saddle). The Firebirds were based on the Custom trim option, with the entire seat face in leather, just the sides were expanded Morrokide (actually Madrid grain vinyl). This is different than the Custom trimmed seats; they had a bolster panel of Madrid on each side of the 4 wide strips of knit-weave vinyl.

I believe the leather to be one of the rarest options in Firebirds. After almost 20 years of searching, I found a restorable 1969 interior for my 1969 Sprint convertible, and the guy who sold it thought there were 54 cars built in 1969 with leather. I have been around these cars 25 years, and have only heard about or seen maybe 4 69’s and 2 68’s with leather. One of them is Scott Misus’ 1969 Sprint hardtop, another is a Sprint convertible that was listed on the owner’s listing of that “jersey68” list. (Whatever happened to that guy, did he just abandon that list? It never seems to be updated!)

One odd thing I saw at the Irvine CA POCI meet was a restored 69 convertible that showed Burgundy/Leather on the trim tag (PNT65/TR293), but the car had Parchment Custom and I don’t remember what color it was repainted. I never found the owner to ask him about the car. My album does not show this combo to be available, but it’s what I would like my Sprint convertible to be. Who knows what may have slipped through on an order form? The album shows black, white, gold, champagne, maize, yellow, brown, and 3 greens could be had with any gold interior, but no reds, blues, or silver.

While I was digging around my parts book, I learned something else that may be of interest regarding the 1968 Custom interiors without the knit-weave inserts. There are “first type-w/grained vinyl fabric” and “second type-w/knitted vinyl fabric” listed, and this only applies to a few colors. They are Teal (255), Turquoise (256), Gold (257), and Parchment (260, and 275 bench seat). I seem to recall seeing a couple of Black interior cars, but my parts book is dated July 1, 1969 and didn’t indicate any 1st/2nd type material for any black interior codes.

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Q: Ram Air Features for 1968

*Please review and advise on any discrepancies. If you have corrections, please provide references for verification (Pt.No’s., etc.) Thanks !

1968 Firebird Ram Air Features…

ENGINE BLOCK
Casting Number… 9792506
Codes… WI (RAI-MT), XN (RAI-AT), WU (RAII-MT), XT (RAII-AT) {4-Bolt Main}

CYLINDER HEADS
Casting Number… 31 (RAI ‘D’ Port) 96 (RAII Round Port)…’stamped’
* Not all “96” Cyl.Heads were stamped

EXHAUST MANIFOLDS
Ram Air I & H.O….. Cast Iron Long Branch (‘D’ Port) 9779424-R…9779495-L
Ram Air II….. Cast Iron Long Branch (round-port) 9794036-R…9794038-L
* w/Thermostatic Heat Control Valve in RH manifold

AXLE
3.90… “ZP” (4-Pinion)
*No Ram Air Firebirds came from the factory w/4.33axle although it was available. Safe-T-Track was mandatory.

TRANS
Manual Trans… M-21 Close-Ratio Muncie (“FX”)
Auto-Trans… T.H.M (“PQ”)
* ALL 1967-1968 Ram Air Firebirds came with two-piece speedo cables and gear reducers. ((( ? PART NUMBER ?)))

INTAKE MANIFOLD
Casting # 9790140 (1st Type…. all 4Bbl’s incl. the RA I… exc. RA II)
Casting # 9794234 (2nd Type….all 4Bbl’s incl. the RA II … after May’68)

CARBURETOR
RAI…. (MT) 7028277 (AT) 7028276
RAII… (MT) 7028273 (AT) 7028270

CARB. VAC. BREAK CONTROL
Pt. # 7038237 (Ram Air I) …Black plastic Cover
Pt. # 7038239 (Ram Air II) …Green Plastic Cover

THROTTLE CABLE BRACKET
Pt. # 9792242 was used on the 1st Type Intake Manifold (9790140)
Pt. # 9797415 was used on the 2nd Type Intake Manifold (9794234)
* 2nd Type stamped “F-4”

OIL FILTER ADAPTOR
(Alum.- filter to block) *Used on all RA & H.O. engines Pt.# 9794111

DISTRIBUTOR
Pt. # 1111449 (exc. RA II)
The Ram Air I cars used the same Distributor as found on 400 M.T. and H.O. cars
*Only the RAII had a unique Distributor, Pt. # 1111941. (MT or AT)

RADIATOR
All Ram Air cars used the H.D. Harrison Radiator.
Manual Trans: “UQ”
Auto Trans: “UP”

RAM AIR HOOD BAFFLE
(pentagon shaped stamped sheet-metal pan, screwed to hood)
Pt. # 9793161

RAM AIR HOOD BAFFLE SEAL
Pt. # 9789883

RAM AIR CARB. SHROUD (Air Inlet)
(round stamped sheet-metal ‘tub’, set on carb.)
Pt. # 9792987

RAM AIR CARB. SHROUD SEAL
Pt. # 9793163

RAM AIR AIR FILTER ELEMENT COVER (black)
Pt. # 6424398

RAM AIR AIR FILTER ELEMENT
Pt. # 6421746 (A212CW & A-274C- paper wetted)

RAM AIR HOOD SCOOPS
(Cast-Metal Scoops “open”)
Pt. #9794283/84

NOTES:
* All Ram Air cars were shipped to the dealer with the Ram Air Baffle, Shroud, Air-Filter, Seals and Open Hood Scoops shipped in the trunk. From ’67 until early 1968, the parts were removed from the trunks and returned to the parts-crib by guards/inspectors while preparing to ship as they suspected theft. This discrepancy was corrected and it is assumed that parts were forwarded to the dealership for installation.

* All Ram Air cars came with a standard 4-Blade Rad’t. Cooling Fan unless optioned with the ‘Flex-Fan’.

* Ram Air Firebird’s ordered with the Ram Air Option and Underhood Lamp were modified at the Dealership in order for the Lamp Assy to clear the Hood Baffle. The Lamp was moved slightly outboard to clear the Baffle.

* The Underhood Structure req’d. a modification to the RH side near the Scoop in order to allow proper fit/sealing of the Ram Air Baffle & Seal. This was performed at the dealership while the Ram Air parts were being installed. A small section of the Underhood Metal was snipped away. In most all case’s, this was a crude alteration and is usually quite noticeable.

* The Code used on the Broadcast Sheet for Ram Air Engines was “Y”.

* No identifying codes were noted on the Firewall Trim Tag and/or VIN to indicate the Ram Air option.

* Less than 50 Ram Air Firebird’s have been accounted for to date.

* The Ram Air I production was from Aug 1967 until May 1968.

* Ram Air II production started May 20th 1968. The option code was still “347” however, the package price was increased. (sometimes found noted on the Billing History).

* Earliest known RA I was built in Oct. 1967 (Verdoro Green)

* The last 1968 RA II ‘Bird produced was invoiced Aug. 6 1968 (4spd coupe)

*For more information…please contact John Schuh FRamair@aol.com

“GENERATION-1 Firebird Registry” http://members.aol.com/Framair/Gen1.html

A: If you were surprised about the “standard” block for the 1967 Ram Air cars, how about learning that most of the blocks for the 1968 Ram Air II engines were “standard” 400 cid blocks (9790071) that were fitted with four-bolt caps!!! Some had the last four digits ground off and were re-stamped with —“2506”, but most were left with the 9790071.

Also your 1967 and 1968 lists show that the cylinder heads had their numbers stamped on them. Not so! All of the ’67 Ram Air “997” heads and the 1968 Ram Air I and II (“31” and “96”) heads were cast!!! Any heads with the numbers stamped on them were done by racers to satisfy the folks at the NHRA, for drag racing.

Find that information on a build sheet or trim tag!!!

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Q: 350 HO Codes for 1968

What were the possible options and codes on my:
1968 Firebird 350 H.O.
L-76 H.O. Engine, 4Bbl Carb, Dual Exhaust, “H.O.” Side Stripes

A:
Engine:
350 H.O. Man. Trans. “WK” 320 H.P. 10.5:1 Compr.
350 H.O. Auto. Trans. “YM” 320 H.P. 10.5:1 Compr.

Trans:
3-Spd. Standard (C/S) Saginaw “RJ”
3-Spd. Standard (F/S) Dearborn “DB”
4-Spd Optional Muncie “FX”
2-Spd Auto ST-300 “MB”
2-Spd Auto (w/A/C) ST-300 “MC”

Cylinder Heads: “18”
Carburetor: M.T. 7028269 A.T. 7028266
Intake manifold: (same as all 4Bbl) 9790140
Exhaust Manifolds: (same as Std. & 400) 9794320RH/9777755LH)
Distributor: M.T. 1111447 A.T. 1111282

*There were 2,087 400 H.O. Firebirds made in 1968. I’d guess that there were close to that for the 350, perhaps less.

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Q: Carburetor Codes

I’ve posted this carb number a couple of times and the only response I received was the number didn’t match anything. So I’ve triple check the carb number and this is really it. So the question is can anyone identify the carb.

7037262

A: Its a 67( 4th digit) and is for a late half of year(3rd digit) with Calif emissions V-8 automatic( last number is even, odd is a stick shift.) Doesnt show as a Firebird tho. Still a rare carb for some GTO guy, to trade for a Firebird carb maybe. I wouldnt spend alot of money fixing the incorrect carb.

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Q: Document Summary

What are all the possible documents I can use to research my Firebird?

A: For those “connoisseurs” of originality, codes and numbers, here is an overview of the documentation associated with the 1967, 1968, and 1969 Firebirds.

DEALER ORDER/TRIM TAG

When a Dealer ordered a car, an Order number was created and routed to the Assembly Plant. At this point, the Scheduling Dept. sorted the information for sequencing and established a Build Sequence & Build Date. A VIN and TRIM TAG are generated during this phase. Fisher Body is where the car was ‘born’ meaning, the Trim Tag Data is used to define the basics (model, color, trim, glass, major power options affecting the Body in White ‘shell’). The Trim Tag Date Code was the Month and Week that the Body Shell was Assembled. The date that the car rolled off the Final Assembly Line could have been as much as a week or more later in some cases. Fisher Body then transfers the painted Body to the Final Assembly Plant.

CHASSIS BROADCAST SHEET

One of the forms of ‘instructions’ for building the 1st Generation Firebirds was a Broadcast Sheet. This ‘electronically’ generated Form was attached to the car either in the Fisher Body facility or upon arriving at Final Assembly. There were (2) different types of Broadcast Sheets used; the first being a “Chassis Broadcast Copy”. This sheet contained various ‘codes’ related to the Chassis of the car such as specific Engine, Trans, Axle as well as sub-components like Belts, Pulleys, Hoses. Brakes, Steering, Suspension, Radiator details were also on this sheet. This is the sheet that allowed the Operator to pull the right parts for that specific car as well as final assemble the engine down the last item like the Air Cleaner. Just prior to securing the Fuel Tank to the Trunk Pan, an Operator would sometimes place the Chassis Broadcast Sheet onto the Tank leaving it there for a lucky owner to find 30yrs later. These are very rare to find in 1967-1969 Firebirds.

BODY BROADCAST SHEET

Once the car left the Chassis area, it received another Broadcast Sheet, this being the “Body Broadcast Copy”. This was used within the Trim and Final area of the Assembly Plant and affected most everything else except the Chassis items. Things like… Console, Radio, Seats, Emblems, wiring, options, etc. Quite often, the Operator installing the Rear Seat would place a Copy of the Body Broadcast Sheet within the springs of the Seat Cushion. Sheets have also been found under the carpet, sound deadener and in the Bucket Seats. Many Codes were duplicated on both the Chassis and Body Broadcast Sheets since some components had related operations in another area of the Assembly Plant. For example, the Chassis Sheet has detailed instructions for the Rear Axle defining the Ratio and whether or not it was Posi (Saf-T-Track). There was also a Box on the Body Sheet for Axle however, this was likely used for the ‘Saf-T-Track Warning Label’ that was attached to the backside of the Deck Lid. It is likely that there were several copies of each sheet attached to various parts of the car during assembly. Most were thrown away once the instructions were no longer needed. Finding one in your car is the result of an Operator who chose to stick it in the car rather than take it to the trash can. Finding a Broadcast Sheet in your car or having one available during a possible purchase does allow one to ‘document’ the essentials of a car on the spot w/o paying or waiting for the Billing History paperwork. So far, no official PMD document has been discovered that explains anything about the Broadcast Sheets.

BILLING HISTORY

This document was used to track a vehicle and it’s cost’s from the Plant to the Final Destination. All the essential information is on the Billing History from Key Codes to Engine Unit Number, Options, Drivetrain equipment and Dealer Codes. The Option/Equipment Codes were based on Sales Code Numbers and are easily decoded. Also included was the Invoice Date which is closer to the actual date the car left Final Assembly than the firewall Trim Tag since the Invoice was not created until the car was completely built. These files were saved on Microfiche and made available to the public in the mid-80’s for the purpose of documenting your car. Back then, one could simply call the 800 number, give them your VIN and they would send you a copy of the Billing History. For FREE. Then, as the Muscle Car boom created a frenzy for documentation, PMD ‘gave’ their files (or access to them) to a Pontiac employee (Jim Mattison) who formed his own company (Pontiac Historic Services) which added a ‘Fee’ for this Copying of the Microfiche Service. Without a doubt, the Billing History is probably the most important of all documents for your Firebird but the Broadcast Sheets do add a little more background to the car as does an original Window Sticker or Warranty Booklet. More detailed information about documentation will soon available on the “Generation-1” Firebird Web Site as well as through other Web Sites including Geoff Martin’s. All of the above information is subject to change and correction due to the limited amount of material circulating with regard to Factory Documentation. For specific questions concerning the Billing History, contact Jim Mattison at Pontiac Historic Services (or PMD). This information is pretty much common knowledge. The codes used on the Broadcast Sheet are being deciphered all the time.

Key Words: Buildsheet

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Q: Identification Numbers

What are the identification numbers I should look fo to verify a numbers matching Firebird.

A: The question of ‘Numbers Matching’ has always been a topic for debate amongst some die-hard enthusiasts. I thought I’d share with everyone what I’ve discovered. If I’ve stated anything in error, please let me know. Numbers Matching basically means the Body and all of it’s components match according to VIN and Part Numbers, Casting Numbers, Date Codes. The Engine/Trans/Axle are considered the ‘Brain’ of the car and they should be the original parts that came on the car when it rolled off the Final Line. Yes, it is possible to rebuild a matching numbers car but that is a touchy area because it starts to get into ethical and illegal practices. A Numbers Correct Car is not necessarily an original Numbers Matching Car.

– VIN (VEHICLE IDENTIFICATION NUMBER)

Assigned to a Body once it has been scheduled for build (Body in White) prior to Final Assembly (while at Fisher Body). This 13-Digit Number included the Division (Chevy, Pontiac, etc.), Series, Model, Year, Assy Plant, Engine (V-8 or 6cyl). The last 5-Digits were the specific Serial Number. The VIN was stamped into a metal tag riveted to the top LH side of the Dash. New for ’68 was the stamping of the VIN (minus Series & Model) onto the Engine Block and onto the Manual Trans Case. This would have occurred at the Vehicle Assembly Plant just prior to (or during) installation into car. Additionally, there were ‘Hidden-VINs’stamped onto various parts of the Vehicle. Generally, these were stamped onto a part of the frame, upper cowl and sometimes on the rear body section (trunk gutter).

– BODY NUMBER

This was the consecutive body number as assigned by Fisher Body. For 1968, there were 2 Assembly Plants, LOR (for Lordstown, OH) and LOS (for Van Nuys, CA). This number was stamped onto the Firewall Trim Tag and will appear anywhere from a 2-Digit number up to a 5-Digit number. This number will also appear on the Broadcast Sheet. There is no consistent (numerically consecutive) pattern between the VIN and Body No.

– ENGINE UNIT NUMBER

A 6-Digit Number was stamped onto the front RH face of the Engine Block. This was a tracking number used for sequencing an Engine to a specific car. All V-8’s started with a 2 while the 6-Cyl’s began with a 6. This number was most likely stamped at the Engine Assy Plant prior to delivery to the Vehicle Assembly Plant. Also found on the Car Billing History Sheet and on Owner Warranty Data Plate. No consecutive connection to the VIN as this number was not unique to a specific Model.

– IDENTIFICATION NUMBER

Once a car was ordered and scheduled for build, an Identification Number was created and routed through to the Assembly Plant for scheduling. This 6-Digit number was entered into the Broadcast System at Fisher Body and the Final Assembly Plant. This number is found on the Broadcast Sheet and along the bottom of the Window Sticker. There is no direct sequential connection between this number and the VIN although the Identification Number is usually higher than the VIN and does climb higher as VIN does.

– SEQUENCE NUMBER

Found only on the Broadcast Sheet, this number was used within the Plant as assigned by the scheduling dept. Usually a 3-Digit number with no sequential connection at all to the VIN, Body Number or IDENT. Number. Perhaps assigned in batches and/or daily.

– INVOICE NUMBER

A 6-Digit number proceeded by a letter. Used for Billing purposes and found only on the Car Billing History. No connection to any other vehicle number.

– CASTING NUMBERS/PART NUMBERS

Most all parts on a car that were cast usually had a Casting Number. This was usually the part number but not always. Many times it represented an assembly. Engine Block, Heads, Intake/Exhaust Manifolds, Timing Chain Covers, Transmission, Axle Housing all had a Casting Number on them. Additionally, other parts had a Stamped Part Number and/or a Tag/Adhesive Label attached primarily for Operator I.D. during the Assembly Process. Many of the Codes found on the Broadcast Sheets could also have been used on these ‘Tags/Labels’ sometimes still on the part (though, most fell off within a few weeks of delivery).

– DATE CODED PARTS

Along with the Casting Number, many parts had a Date Code Cast or Stamped onto them. Various formats were used to denote the Date the part was cast, and/or assembled. One example is the Engine Block. “L227” represents Dec. 22 1967. Yes, the letter “I” was used in 1968 despite what many magazines/books say. There was also a ‘Julian Date’ code used on some parts. Some Date Codes were built into the Part Number (carburetors). Other items used a unique coding system such as the Transmission, Glass, Alternator and Distributor. Parts that had a Date Code were the Engine, Cylinder Heads, Manifolds, Carb, Alternator, Starter, Transmission, Axle, Glass, Shocks, Gauge Clusters, Tachs, Clocks, Shifters, Fan Blade Assembly, Master Cylinder, Side View Mirrors, Waterpump, Distributors, Mufflers, Brake Drums, Calipers, Steering Gearbox and possibly other pieces. The thing to remember about date codes is the part should be dated before the Body (Trim Tag date). There is no firm rule on how far back the part must be dated before the body. Most agree that parts should be no more than a month or so before the car.

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Q: Vehicle ‘Tracking’ Numbers For 1968

What are the important numbers for my car and where are they located?

A:

VIN (Vehicle Identification Number)

Assigned to a Body once it has been scheduled for build (Body in White) prior to Final Assembly (while at Fisher Body). This 13-Digit Number included the Division(Chevy, Pontiac, etc.), Series, Model, Year, Assy Plant, Engine (V-8 or 6cyl). The last 5-Digits were the specific Serial Number. The VIN was stamped into a metal tag riveted to the top LH side of the Dash. New for 1968 was the stamping of the VIN (minus Series & Model) onto the Engine Block and onto the Manual Trans Case. This would have occurred at the Vehicle Assembly Plant just prior to (or during) installation into car.

BODY NUMBER

This was the consecutive body number as assigned by Fisher Body. For 1968, there were 2 Assembly Plants, LOR (for Lordstown, OH) and LOS (for Van Nuys, CA). This number was stamped onto the Firewall Trim Tag and will appear anywhere from a 2-Digit number up to a 5-Digit number. This number will also appear on the Broadcast Sheet. There is no consistent (numerically consecutive) pattern between the VIN and Body No.

ENGINE UNIT NUMBER

A 6-Digit Number was stamped onto the front RH face of the Engine Block. This was a tracking number used for sequencing an Engine to a specific car. All V-8’s started with a 2 while the 6-Cyl’s began with a 6. This number was most likely stamped at the Engine Assy Plant prior to delivery to the Vehicle Assembly Plant. Also found on the Car Billing History Sheet and on Owner Warranty Data Plate. No consecutive connection to the VIN as this number was not unique to a specific Model.

IDENTIFICATION NUMBER

Once a car was ordered, an Identification Number was created and routed through to the Assembly Plant for scheduling. This 6-Digit number was entered into the Broadcast System at Fisher Body and the Final Assembly Plant. This number is found on the Broadcast Sheet and along the bottom of the Window Sticker. There is no direct sequential connection between this number and the VIN although the Identification Number is usually higher than the VIN and does climb higher as VIN does.

SEQUENCE NUMBER

Found only on the Broadcast Sheet, this number was used within the Plant as assigned by the scheduling dept. Usually a 3-Digit number with no sequential connection at all to the VIN, Body Number or IDENT. Number. Perhaps assigned in batches and/or daily.

INVOICE NUMBER

A 6-Digit number proceeded by a letter. Used for Billing purposes and found only on the Car Billing History. No connection to any other vehicle number.

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Q: Body Broadcast Sheet

What is the body broadcast copy and where can I find one for my car? Are the codes similar to the billing history?

A: The Body Broadcast Sheet was used in the assy plant as a way for the line- worker to easily recognize which component, accessory, engine, etc. to put on each vehicle. Once the car was complete, there was no other purpose for this sheet so, it usually was not left with the car. I have found though, that MOST ’68’s built at the Lordstown, OH plant will have at least one (sometimes 4) full or partial B’Cast Sheets still within the car (provided that the car was never restored). Also, its not uncommon to find a Broadcast Sheet in your car for the car built BEFORE yours… Remember, to the Line-Worker, this was just a piece of paper !

Common Locations for Body Broadcast Sheet:

• Under Rear-Seat (Lower Half)

• Under Rear-Seat (Upper Half)..sometimes stuck in springs

• Between track assy and seat assy on Passenger-side front seat

• Under the carpet underlayment (sound-deadner)…pass.cmprtmt. floor pan

• Between the seat covers and the seat cushion…only look if cover is bad!

• Between Gas-Tank and Trunk Floorpan

• Behind Door-Trim Panels

• Behind Rear Qtr. Trim Panels…esp. on convertibles

• Under the Instrument Panel Pad (usually only partial)

…..One other ‘tip’…if and when you DO find the B’Cast Sheet…handle with care as it is usually very brittle. Some found under the sound-deadner are actually ‘bonded’ to the oil-based underlayment so…keep the whole thing, its still readable.

Let us know if you do find the Broadcast Sheet; the codes listed on it are useful in our research. Please send us a copy or we can fwd. you a ‘blank- copy’ to fill out & return. Also, look for a new feature on the WebSite for Broadcast Sheets…… Decoding.

A: The Body Broadcast Sheet was coded according to supplier component codes and Fisher Body codes. The Billing History used the sales codes. The only similarities between the two would be the basics like VIN, trim/paint colors & key codes. It is true that if you decode them properly, you can determine basically the same info… engine, trans, options, wheels, etc.

The Broadcast Sheet can also provide authentication for a car. You can also use these codes to detail the components on your car. So, two different documents with two very different coding systems. Both very important in documenting a car but not the same.

A: Use the following to help decode:

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Q: Protecto Plate

What is a Protecto Plate?

A: I’m not sure if that’s the right name for it but it’s basically a metal credit- card type of plate that’s in the owner’s manual that identifies your car for when it used to be taken in for service. I guess they put it through a credit- card type machine to get an imprint of it.

A: I have the Protecto-Plate for my 1969 OHC6 coupe, and it is plastic. My buddy’s 1969 Z-28 (he bought new) has a metal plate that is imprinted in reverse, my Pontiac reads normally. His is mounted on a card of thick paper, mine is loose. I understand they were used for warranty purposes.

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Q: Custom Trim Option

I am confused that my car has the custom option trim (554) but it only has standard interior.

A: The Custom Trim Option with custom seats for the 1968 Firebird was identified on the Firewall Trim Tag as Style 22667 (conv) -or- 22637 (coupe). (22467 and 22437 were Std. Interiors). According to the sales literature, the Custom Trim Option (code 554) included the following…..

• Deluxe Wheel Discs

• Deluxe Steering Wheel

• Door and Quarter Trim (molded vinyl)

• Vinyl and Weave pattern Seats

• Roof Rail Mldgs

• Wheel Opening Mldgs

• Instrmt. Panel Grip (Grab Bar)

• Pedal Trim

• Dual Horns

There are other features that were apparently associated with the Custom Trim Option that were not so obvious such as the different (longer) window regulators. Some items have also been speculated to have been also included such as…

• 160 mph Speedo

• “BIRD” Emblem on Glove Box Door

• Custom (Deluxe) Seat Belts (brushed metal buckles w/GM button)

• Small white “BIRD” etched onto fwd/lower corner of front side glass

• Windshield ‘A’ pillar Mldgs (interior) ??

• Wheel Trim Rings (when ordered w/Rally II wheel option)

All items in the Custom Trim Option could have been ordered individually on a 22467 (or 22437) car except the Deluxe Interior, 22667 (or 22637).

A: The body tag series number changed to reflect the custom trim option (Code 554) and had a different number for custom interior (26) or standard interior (24):

• 22437 std interior with custom trim option (coupe)

• 22467 “” (CONV)

• 22637 deluxe interior with custom trim option (coupe)

• 22667 “” (CONV)

A: Use following link to find more information about the Custom Trim Option on FGF: More Information

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Q: Dealer Zone Codes

How do you decipher the dealer codes found on the build sheet and billing history?

A: The Pontiac Motor Division dealer codes and most of their meanings have been collect by the Ultimate GTO Picture Site, GENERATION-1 FIREBIRD REGISTRY, and Wallace Racing. A couple branches of this data will be found at Ultimate GTO Picture Site and Wallace Racing.

Do you have information to add to our research? Use the form found below the dealer code information?

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Zone 1 – Boston, Massachusetts (MA)
01	???	Abbott Automovile Co, New London, CT
01	003
01	021	Anson Motors Inc, 469 Pleasant St, Attleboro, MA 02703
01	023	Arrow Pontiac Inc, 21-23 Massachusetts Av, Arlington, MA 02174
01	035	Balch Pontiac-Buick, 67 Post Rd, East Windsor, CT 06088
01	047	Barry Pontiac Inc, 166 Connell Hwy, Newport, RI 02842
01	083	Blue Ribbon Auto Co., Inc, 400 West Thames St, Orwich, CT 06360
01	091	Brigham-Gill Pontiac, Inc, 817 Worchester Road, Natick, MA 01760
01	092	Brigham-Gill Pontiac, Inc, 817 Worchester Road, Natick, MA 01760
01	111	Cannon Buick Pontiac, 95 Wareham St, Middleboro, MA 02346
01	129	Arthur Center Pontiac, 360 Main St, Springlfield, MA 01101
01	???	Centerdale Motor Sales, Johnston, RI
01	154	Cirle Pontiac, 401 Broadway, Route 1, Saugus, MA 01906
01	171	Colongial Motors, Wareham, MA
01	175	Columbia Pontiac Co, 650-700 Morrissey Blvd, Dorchester MA 02125
01	179	Tom Connelly Pontiac, 70 Providence Hwy, Norwood, MA 02062
01	196
01	197	Conanover Pontiac, Inc, 475 Federal Street, Creenfield, MA 01310
01	???	Court Pontiac, Inc, Portland, ME
01	207	Damon Pontiac Inc, 761 Bedford St, North Abingto, MA 02351
01	208	Griffin Pontiac, 134 Main St, Brigewater, MA (See also 01-256)
01	215	Shaw Pontiac DBA Samoset Garage, 40 Samoset St, Plymouth, MA 02346
01	216	Cannon Pontiac, Middleboro, MA (?? 01-111 same ??)
01	222	Rollins Inc DBA Shaw Pontiac, Plymouth, MA
01	232	Hoxsie Pontiac, Westerly RI
01	250	Barry Pontiac, Newport RI
01	256	Griffin Pontiac, 134 Main St, Brigewater, MA (See also 01-208)
01	259	Fiore Pontiac Inc, 399 Bald Hill Rd, Warwick, RI 02887
01	263	Fitzgerald Pontiac Oldsmovile, Inc, 37 Liberty Street, Newbury MA 01951
01	266	Franklin Pontiac-Cadillac Inc.,S Main St. Rt 7, Vermont 05701
01	277	Fratus Motor Co, 479 Washington St Quincy, MA 02169
01	288	Germano Pontiac-Buick Inc, Springfield Rd, Westfield, MA 01085
01	289	Gilbert Pontiac-Cadillac, 103 N Main St, Woonsocket, RI 02895
01	295	Grappone Inc, 167 N State St, Concord, NH 03302
01	332	Haynes Pontiac Inc, 460 Yarmouth Rd, Hyannis, MA 02601
01	347	A.C. Hine Co, 189 Washington St, Hartford, CT 06106
01	359	Hosmer Motor Sales Inc, Medford, MA
01	402	Kemp Pontiac/Cadillac, Newington, CT
01	403	Kelley Pontiac, on Broadway in Bangor, Maine
01	407	Keyes Pontiac-Oldsmobile, 129 Worchester St, Southbridge, MA 01551
01	415	Additional Dealer Info Became Handy Pontiac in ’68 W.E. Krupp Pontiac, St Albans, VT
01	???	Additional Dealer Info Sold to Rick Starr Pontiac-Cadillac early 80’s Lawless Pontiac-Cadillac, Shrewsbury St, Worcester, MA
01	439	R.H. Long Motor Sales, 624 Waverly Str, Framingham, MA 01701
01	444	Lorber Pontiac, Warren, RI
01	445	Lorber Pontiac, 803 Taunton Av E. Providence, Providence, RI 02914
01	446	Lyons Pontiac-Cadillac, Barre-Montpelier Rd, Barre, VT 05641
01	471	McAdams Pontiac, 940 S Main St, Athol, MA 01331
01	473	Mc Andrew Pontiac Inc, 209 S Broadway, Lawrence, MA 01843
01	479	Mc Corrison-Cole Pontiac Inc, Depot St, Thorndike, ME 04986
01	499	Miller Pontiac Inc, 250 President Ave, Fall River, MA 02722
01	501	Miskinis Buick-Pontiac Co, 1000 Main St, Bridgewater, MA 02324
01	512	Moody Pontiac – Buick, 712 Main St, Rockland, ME 04041
01	535	Additional Dealer Info They were bought out in 1988 by Sid Porter, who went out of business in Feb of 2002. Sid Porter sold the Pontiac franchise to Dick O’Connor in December of 1999. The current dealer (as of 2007) is O’Connor Pontiac-GMC-Buick, 187 Riverside Drive, Augusta, ME which kept the same dealer code. Nichol Pontiac, 337 State Street, Agusta, ME 04330
01	541	Ocean Pontiac, 443 Rantoul St, Beverely St, Beverely, MA
01	566	Pine Tree Pontiac Inc, Rt 16B Old Rochester Rd, Dover, NH 03821
01	571	Russell Pontiac, 612 New Park Ave, West Hartford, CT (See also 647)
01	573	Pontiac Center Inc, 620 New Park Av, West Hartford, CT 06110
01	575
01	577	Pontiac Village, Commonwealth Avenue Boston, MA
01	585	Prince Pontiac Corp, Newton, MA
01	647	Russell Pontiac Inc, 625 New Park Ave, Hartford, CT 06110 (See also 571)
01	679	Sea Crest Cadilliac-Pontiac, 730 Lynnway, Lynn, MA 01905
01	696	Ricky Smith Pontiac, Inc, 25 Main Street, Weymouth, MA 021188
01	705	Rick Starr Pontiac, 832 N MAin St, Leominster, MA 01453
01	707	Steingold Pontiac, 766 Broadway, Pawtucket, RI
01	711	Stephen Pontiac-Cadillac Inc, 1097 Farmington Ave, Bristol, Ct 06010
01	724	Talarico Pontiac, 63 Elm St, Milford, NH 03055
01	731	Tarbox Motors Inc, 1100 Tower Hill Rd, North Kingston, RI 02852
01	748	Tedbetts Pontiac-Cadillac Inc, Sanford, NH 04073
01	749	Tulley Buick/Pontiac, Nashua, NH
01	767
01	775	Waldimer Pontiac Inc, 1369 Middlesex, Lowell, MA 01851
01	795	Ted Ware Pontiac, MA
01	832	Yankee Pontiac-Buick Inc, Corner Main & Marshall St, North Adams, MA
01	991	Pontiac Motor Division

Zone 2 – New York, New York (NY)
02	015	Alpine MOtors Corp, 8729 18th St, Brooklyn, NY 11214
02	023
02	024	Apuzzo Pontiac Corp, Bronx, NY
02	034	Astro Pontiac Corp, 353 Grand Concourse, Bronx, NY 10451
02	039	Ballston Motor Sales Inc, Ballston Spa, NY 12020
02	043	The Barberino Brothers, Inc., 505 N Colony St, Wallingford, CT
02	063
02	064	Biener Pontiac, Great Neck, NY
02	???	Downes Pontiac, Matawan, NJ
02	066	Garden State Auto Park Pontiac, Eatontown, NJ
02	093	Harry Brown Pontiac, New Hyde Park, NY
02	???	Capitol Pontiac, 1200 State St, Albany, NY
02	100	Cardinal Pontiac Inc, 9 New Broad St, Port Chester, NY, 10573
02	120	Bob Clarke Pontiac Inc, Quaker Rd, Glens Falls, NY 12803
02	129	Bill Conda Pontiac INc, 428 West Main St, Waterbury, CT 06702
02	141	Cross County Motors Corp, Broad Street, Port Chester NY 10573
02	143	Cunningham Pontiac, 1212-02 Jamaica Ave, Richmond Hill, NY 11418
02	167	Glaxy Pontiac, 761 N Bedford Rd, Mount, Kisco, NY 10549
02	???	A.C. Hine Co, 189 Washington St, Hartford, CT
02	???	Joseph Gray Inc, Freeport, NY
02	187	Kalaydjian Pontiac, 761 N Bedford Rd Mount Kisco, NY 10549
02	256	Heath Buick-Pontiac, Inc., S Broadway, Saratoga Springs, NY 12866
02	257	Holroyd Pontiac, Inc, 532 Fairfield Ave, Bridgeport, CT 06603
02	265	Tom Jones Pontiac, Inc, Bridgeport, CT
02	287	Kellogg Theiss Pontiac Cadillac Inc, Danbury Rd, Ridgefield, CT
02	289	Kemper Pontiac/Cadillac, Bridgewater, NJ
02	296
02	299	Knowles Pontiac, Troy, NY
02	302	Yager Pontiac INc, 470 Central Ave, Albany, NY
02	303
02	349	May Pontiac INc, 831 Main St, New Rochelle, NY 10805
02	368
02	370	Midtown Chevrolet Pontiac, New York City, NY
02	371	Miller Motors, 328-30 Division ST, Amsterdam NY
02	391	Montauk Pontiac, Bay Shore, NY
02	???	Myers Pontiac INc, Hawthorne, NY
02	415	Myrtle Motors Corp., 61-20 Fresh Pond Rd., Maspeth, NY.
02	417	Napoli Motors, Milford, CT
02	419
02	433	Otten Pontiac, 6233 Jericho Turnpike, Commack, NY 11725
02	463	Mal Pierce Pontiac Inc, 3979 Hempstead Turnpike, Bethpage, NY 11714
02	???	Prince Pontiac, Newton, MA
02	466
02	???	Regal Pontiac Ltd, 1220 Bloomfield Ave, West Cadwell, NJ
02	502	Reydel Pontiac, Edison, NJ
02	555
02	560
02	???	Rockville Centre Motors, Inc, 510 Sunrise Highway, Rockville Centre, NY 11751
02	565	Rukle Pontiac, Yonkers, NY
02	567	Rushneck Pontiac, Tarrytown, NY
02	591	Wipple Motors Inc, Hempstead, NY
02	???	Sarintino Pontiac/ Cadillac, Bridgeton, NJ 08302
02	607	South Shore Pontiac 750 W. MERRICK RD. VALLEY STREAM, NY
02	611	Star Pontiac, 2582 Hyland Boulevard, Staten Island, NY
02	622	Suburban Pontiac INc, 611 Glen Cove Hwy, Glen Head, NY 11545
02	637
02	643	Turnpike Pontiac INc, 777 E State St, Westport, CT 06880
02	651	Vail Bros Inc, Peconic Lane Pt 25, Peconic, NY
02	691	Wipple Motors Inc, 209 N Franklin St, Hemstead, NY 11550
02	991	Listed as the “ship to” dealer. May have been in PA

Zone 3 – Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (PA)
03	010	Fort Pontiac/Buick, ??
03	019	Ardes Buick-Pontiac, Phoenixville, PA 19460
03	???	Arnold Pontiac & Olds, Maytown, PA
03	027	Atlantic Cadillac-Pontiac, Phoenixville, PA 19460
03	033	Bayliss Oldsmobile Inc, Reading, PA
03	040	Baker Pontiac/Buick, Princeton, NJ
03	071
03	081	Bradley-Lawless Pontiac, Scranton, PA
03	083	B. B. Brumbaugh INc, 114 E Baltimore Ave, Landsdowne, PA 19050
03	088	Burrell, Halifax, PA
03	102	Carpenter Pontiac, 220 East 8th St, Wyoming, PA 18644
03	104	Cathcart Pontiac, Trenton, NJ
03	129	Dave Cole Pontiac Inc, Camden, NJ 08105
03	137	Cooleauge Pontiac, Tunkhannock, PA
03	139	County Sales & Service Inc, High & Bridge Sts, Selingrove, PA 17870
03	154	Harry Cramer Inc, Middletown, PA
03	155	Davis Pontiac Inc, Second St Pike, Richboro, PA
03	159	Shelley Pontiac Cadillac Inc, Lewistonwn, PA 17044
03	167	Ebersole Pontiac, 1900 Cumberland St, Lebanon, PA
03	174	Eldridge Pontiac-Buick, Inc., Princeton, NJ
03	175	Deising (2nd Listing), 2812 N 3rd St, Milwaukee, WI
03	203	Delaware Olds Inc, Wilmington, DE
03	207	Fisher Motors, Lehighton, PA
03	???	J.L. Freed Sonds, Inc, Lansdale, PA
03	215	David M Fogel Pontiac, 314 East Lancaster Ave, Wayne, PA
03	223	Federick Pontiac INc, Woodbury, NJ
03	???	William B Fry Pontiac, Lititz, PA
03	239	Gasko Pontiac, 412 Cape May Ave, Mays Landing, NJ 08330
03	247	A.W Golden Inc, 801 Lancaster Av, Reading, PA
03	248	Hall Buick-Pontiac Co., Smyrna, DE
03	254	Hunsberger Buick-Pontiac, Inc., Hamburg, PA
03	263	Kellam Pontiac-Buick, Inc.,Tasley, VA
03	273	Martin Pontiac-Buick, New Hope, PA
03	276	Hertrich Pontiac Buick Co, Blades Casueway, Seaford, DE 19973
03	278	Holly Pontiac Inc, Rt 38, Mt Holly, NJ
03	???	Hunsberger Buick-Pontiac, 318 Walnut St, Hamsburg, PA
03	286	Jones Pontiac Inc., Lancaster,Pa. 17604
03	296	Johnny Johnson Pontiac Inc, 337-41 Broad St, Philadelphica, PA
03	???	Al Johns Pontiac INc, Kingston, PA
03	299	Roberts Pontiac?, Quakertown RD, Philadelphia, PA
03	300	Knopf Pontiac, 3401 Lehigh St, Allentown, PA 18104
03	303	Bob Leitz Pontiac, Main St, Tuckerton, NJ 08087
03	???	March Pontiac, 211 E Lancaster Ave, Ardmore, PA 19003
03	347	Meridith Auto Sales, Inc, Sunburst Hwy & M, Cambridge, MD 21613
03	???	Roger Migdon Pontiac, Strasburg, PA
03	399	Reedman Pontiac, Rout 13 & Second Ave, Bristol, PA 19077
03	401
03	404	Rapp & Hopkins Pontiac, Rte 130 & Taylor La, Cinnaminson NJ 08077
03	416	S & H Pontiac, 352 S Cameron St, PO Box 2015, Harrisburg, PA 17111
03	419	Schreffler Pontiac/Buick, Sunbury, PA
03	455	, Altoona, PA
03	460	Paul S. Spaar, Inc, route 29, Palm PA 18070
03	???	Steffy Pontiac, Ephrata, PA (Sold 2001 to Ziemer Buick in New Holland, PA)
03	483	John S. Stratton INc, Pitman, NJ
03	???	Strausbaugh Pontiac, Glen Rock, PA
03	493	Teffy Pontiac, Jenkinstown, PA
03	527	Union Park Pontiac, Wilmington, DE
03	532	Victor Pontiac Inc, 336-41 S Broad St, Philadelphia, PA
03	540	Wamsley Pontiac, Morrisville, PA
03	???	Wilmann Pontiac, Johnsonburg, PA
03	568	Al Wilson Pontiac, Inc, 555 W Street Rd, Warminster, PA
03	579	Woody Pontiac-Cadillac Inc, 809 E Lincoln Highway, Coatesville, PA 19320
03	591	Zipay Pontiac Buick, Inc, 954 Main Street, Peckville, PA 18452
03	592	Zipay Pontiac Buick, Inc, Scranton Carbondale Why, Eynon, PA 18403
03	991	Pontiac Motor Div, GMC, Delaware & Taska St, Philadelphia PA

Zone 4 – Washington, Chevy Chase, Maryland (MD)
04	011
04	024	Bendall Pontiac, Alexandria, VA
04	029
04	047
04	051	Bratten Pontiac Corp, 891 Little Creek Rd, Norfold VA
04	064	Brown Pontiac, 1550 Wilson Blvd, Arlington, VA 222209
04	???	Brown Pontiac Inc, 1550 Wilson Blvd, Arlington, VA 222209
04	???	Chieftain Pontiac, York Rd, Towson, MD
04	091	Clare Pontiac Sales, King George, VA
04	111	Colony Motors, Inc., Williamsburg, VA
04	119
04	149	Fenner Pontiac INc, 1200 Rockville Pk, Rockville, MD 20852
04	151	Keith Fletcher Motors, 281 Broadview Ave, Warrenton, VA 22186
04	155	Flood Pontiac Co, 4221 Connecticut Ave, Washington, DC
04	157	Additional Dealer Info In 1985 Dealer Code changed to 04-159 Fuquay Pontiac Inc, Danville, VA
04	158
04	159	Additional Dealer Info In 1985 Dealer Code changed from 04-157
04	179	Haley Pontiac, Richmond, VA
04	185
04	187	Harding Pontiac Co, Laurel, MD
04	196	Haydon Pontiac, Kilmarnock, VA
04	204	Hollomon Pontiac, Hampton, VA
04	205	Hollomon Pontiac INc, 1010 W Mercury Blvd, Hampton, VA 23366
04	207
04	213	Jones Sales and Service Inc., Highway 220, Hot Springs VA 24445
04	214	Jarman Pontiac, Inc. 301 West 29th St. Baltimore MD
04	219	Kelly Pontiac Inc, 5801 Belair Rd, Baltimore, MD 21206
04	220	Kern Motor Co Inc, 603 Loudoun St, Winchester, VA 22601
04	223	King Pontiac City, Gaithersburg, MD
04	239
04	243	Kapalka Pontiac Inc, 30 Morgantown St, Fairchance, PA 15436
04	263	Marbert Motors Inc, 284 West Street, Annapolis, MD 21401
04	278	Steve Smith Pontiac, Inc., Fairfax, VA
04	278	Additional Dealer Info Dealer Name changed from Steve Smith Pontiac Fairfax Pontiac-GMC Truck Inc, Fairfax VA
04	291	Meekins Pontiac Corp, 1833 Laskin Rd, Virginia Beach, VA 23451
04	???	Prince Pontiac-Olds, Manassas, VA
04	315	O’Donnell Pontiac Inc, Baltimore, MD
04	318	Bill Page Pontiac Inc, Falls Church, VA
04	331	Peyton Pontiac Cadillac, Inc, 358 West Main St, Charlottesville, VA 22903
04	351	Dave Pyles Motors Inc, 4722 St Barnabas Rd, Marlow Heights, MD 20031
04	359	Codes Based On Following Info: Document Year: 1967 Document Source: Bill History and window Sticker PHS Comments: This was the Dealer that my Firebird was shipped to. Raleigh Motor Sales Inc, Beckley, WV
04	???	Renn Pontiac, Inc, 15 # Sixth St, Frederick, MD
04	379	Roughton Pontiac Corp, 1401 Monticello Ave, Norfolk, VA 23510
04	399	Spangler Pontiac, Rossville, PA
04	405	Sponsler Pontiac, Hughesville, MD 20637
04	407	Standard Pontiac, 7125 Baltimore Blvd, College Park, MD 20740
04	411
04	412	Steen Miller, Oakhill, WV
04	431	Town & Country Motors, Inc, 1775 South Main St, Harrisonburg, VA 22801
04	455	Ward Pontiac Sales Inc, 3201 Warwick Blvd, Newport News, VA
04	457
04	???	Waters Pontiac, High St, Portsmouth, VA
04	471	Wilson Pontiac-Buick, Inc., Radford, VA
04	475	Wilson Pontiac, Silver Spring, MD
04	479	Bob Cutts Pontiac, 1154 W Main St, Salem, VA 24153
04	480	Woodson Pontiac Inc, Williamson Rd, Roanoke, VA 24012
04	995	Pontiac Division, Marland Zone Office, MD

Zone 5 – Buffalo, New York (NY)
05	026
05	029	Averill-Laughlin Pontiac-Buick Inc, 37 West South St, Corry, PA 16407
05	078	Carbone Pontiac, Yorkville, NY 2248
05	???	Additional Dealer Info Now located at 8129 Main St DBA Jim Culligan, Inc. Jim Culligan Pontiac, 5326 Main St, Williamsville, NY 14221
05	129	Additional Dealer Info Name changed from Al Ives Pontiac ’72, delear code changed from 05-297, and relocated somtime to 2845 Bailey Ave, Buffalo, NY. Now located at 2277 Niagara Falls Blvd, Buffalo, NY. Don Davis Pontiac, Buffalo, NY 2795
05	136	Donman Pontiac, Rt 11, Brewerton, NY 13020
05	140	Bob Duell Pontiac Cadillac, Inc, 1511 Pennsylvania Ave, Warren, PA 16305
05	163	Fox Motors, 39 Buffalo St, Gowanda Ny 14070
05	185	Win Gurney Pontiac, Inc, 811 W Genese St, Syracuse, NY 13204
05	212	Hetzell-Dean Motors, Inc, Wellsville, NY
05	224	Al Ives Pontiac Inc, 2277 Niagara Fals Blvd, Tonawanda, NY 14150
05	???	Kimmel Pontiac Inc, 1524 W 26th St, Erie, PA 16508
05	251	Krueger Motor Sales Corp., Niagara Falls, NY
05	297	Additional Dealer Info Incorporated: Septeber 12, 1967, Name changed to Don Davis Pontiac 1972, delear code changed to 05-129, and relocated somtime to 2845 Bailey Ave??, Buffalo, NY. Now located at 2277 Niagara Falls Blvd, Buffalo, NY. Al Ives Pontiac, 75 Main St., N Tonawanda, NY 14120
05	324	Outwater Pontiac-Cadillac Inc
05	351	Piehler Pontiac Corp.,1560 Lake Ave., Rochester, NY
05	355
05	379	Ralph Pontiac Inc, 685 W Main St, Rocherster NY 14611
05	433	Scutti Pontiac, Rochester, NY
05	527	Don Watson Pontiac, Clinton, NY
05	666	DaBrescia Motors INc, Bridge & Front St, Hancock, NY 13783
05	991	Pontiac Motor Division, G.M.C, 5225 Sheridan Drive, Williamsville, NY 14221

Zone 6 – Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (PA)
06	003	Acon Pontiac Inc, 1070 Midland Ave, Midland, PA 15059
06	020	Arnold Pontiac-GMC Inc, 12 North Main St, Houston, PA
06	027	Bauman Pontiac Inc, Wilkinsburg, PA
06	029	Beatty Buick Pontiac & GMC Truck Co, 71 Murtland Ave, Washignton, PA 15301
06	055	Babeck Pontiac, Nanty Glo, PA 15943
06	064	Bowser Pontiac, Route 51 South, Pleasant Hills, PA
06	075
06	084	Carroll Pontiac, 537 St Clair Ave, Clairton, PA 15025
06	???	Clark Pontiac, Rebecca Ave, Wilkinsburg, PA
06	090	Wright Pontiac, Carnegie, PA
06	096	Constantin Pontiac, 6314 Forbes Ave, Squirrel Hill, PA
06	097	Roy Friend Pontiac Inc, Gibsonia, PA
06	098	Cochran Pontiac, Route 22, Monroeville, PA
06	115	Lew Davies, Meadville, PA
06	128	Downtown Pontiac of Pittsburgh, 2001 West Liberty Ave, South Hills Pittsburgh, PA
06	140	F & P Pontiac, Morgantown, WV
06	143	Fisher Pontiac Inc, 5748 Kennedy Ave, Export, FA 15632
06	158	Freeman Buick Pontiac Co, Ellwood City, PA
06	197	Hamilton Pontiac, Route 30, Irwin, PA
06	233
06	309	Towanda, PA 18848
06	326
06	329	Mikan Pontiac, route 356, Butler, PA
06	???	Gil Morrow Pontiac, 245 West Jefferson, Butler, PA
06	347	Napoleon Pontiac, 341-45 E Seventh Ave, Tarentum, PA 15084
06	421	Al Schwartz Pontiac Inc, 1400 Labanon Church Rd, West Mifflin, PA
06	427
06	449	Speck Pontiac/Oldsmobile, Huntingdon, PA
06	468	Stupka Pontiac, 1361 E State St, Sharon, PA 16146
06	469	Summers Motors Sales, 402 Colgate Dr, Marietta, OH
06	476	Teter Motors Pontiac-Buick-GMC, 1013 N Randolph Ave, Elkins, WV 26241
06	486	Palmer Pontiac, 7th and Market, McKeesport, PA
06	487	Thomas Pontiac Co, 501 7th St, Parkersburg, WV 26102
06	523	Walker Pontiac Inc, 658 Washington Rd, Mt Lebanon, PA 15228
06	550	Wheelock Buick-Pontiac Inc, 501 S Liberty Blvd, Duboise, PA 15801

Zone 7 – Pontiac, Michigan (MI)
07	???	Andy Anderson Buick- Pontiac, 7551 Auburn Rd, Utica, MI
07	016
07	018	Audette Pontiac, 1850 West Maple Rd, Troy, MI 48084
07	031	Barnett Pontiac, 5524 Schafer Rd, Dearborn, MI
07	034	Belcastro Pontiac Inc, Ferndale, MI
07	035	Belford Motor Sales, Davison, MI
07	???	Berry Pontiac Inc, 874 West Ann Arbor Rd, Plymouth, MI
07	048	Aubrun Pontiac
07	054	Bockey Motor Sales, Delphos, OH
07	074	Additional Dealer Info Became Auburn Pontiac in 1980’s Packer Pontiac, Auburn HIlls, MI
07	075	Bukoski Sales & Service, Inc, Ubly, MI
07	088	Ken Canfield Pontiac, Inc, 106 Hable, Durand, MI 48429
07	099	Additional Dealer Info Names Change History: Priehs Sales Pontaic Cadillac, Co 95-103 Macomb St, Mt Clemens, MI John Rumel Pontiac-Cadillac-GMC 1967 Split Pontiac Div off to Randy Wood Pontiac late 1960’s Randy Wood Pontiac, 38111 Gratiot Ave, Mt Clemens, MI Jim Causley Pontiac, 38111 Gratiot Ave, Mt Clemens, MI Sometime relocated to 17677 Mack Ave, Detroit, MI 48224 from 38111 Gratiot Ave, Mt Clemens, MI James Pontiac 1970’s Changed Dealer Code from 07-099 to 07-100 at some point in time when called Jim Causley Pontiac Priehs Sales Pontiac Cadillac, Co 95-103 Macomb St, Mt Clemens, MI
07	100	Additional Dealer Info Previous Address To: 17677 Mack Ave, Detroit, MI 48224 Names Change History: Priehs Sales Pontaic Cadillac, Co 95-103 Macomb St, Mt Clemens, MI John Rumel Pontiac-Cadillac-GMC 1967 Split Pontiac Div off to Randy Wood Pontiac late 1960’s Randy Wood Pontiac, 38111 Gratiot Ave, Mt Clemens, MI Jim Causley Pontiac, 38111 Gratiot Ave, Mt Clemens, MI Sometime relocated to 17677 Mack Ave, Detroit, MI 48224 from 38111 Gratiot Ave, Mt Clemens, MI James Pontiac 1970’s Changed Dealer Code from 07-099 at some point in time when called Jim Causley Pontiac Jim Causley, 38111 Gratiot Ave, Mt Clemens, MI
07	101	Cawood Auto Co, 2516 Pinegrove, Port Huron, MI 48060
07	123	Clohecy Pontiac Inc, 22520 Grand River Ave, Detroit, MI
07	132	Additional Dealer Info Was Goodwin Pontiac until 1970’s Then changed Dealer Code from 07-133 Orson E. Coe Pontiac, Inc, Grand Rapids, MI
07	133	Additional Dealer Info Became Coe Pontiac 1970’s Then changed Dealer Code to 07-132 Goodwin Pontiac, Division St, Grand Rapids, MI
07	167	Might be Maxton Motors, Butler OH?
07	???	Feder Pontiac Inc, 3620 Lee Rd, Shaker Heights, OH 44120
07	243	Flannery & Sons, 320 E Huron, Bad Axe, Ml
07	263	Glen Pontiac Inc, 15860 Grand River Ave, Detroit, MI
07	263	Glenn Pontiac, 1560 Grand River, Detroit MI 482277
07	267	Front Pontiac Sales, Perrysburg, OH
07	275	Garber Pontiac & Cadillac, 5155 State Rd, Saginaw, MI 48603
07	276	Kyle Motors, 350 N Main St, Mountain Home,
07	278	Jim Gilmore Cadillac Buick Pontiac, 411 W Kalamazoo Ave, Kalamazoo, MI
07	283
07	???	Glover Pontiac, Almont, MI
07	303	Grant Motors, 161 Maple, Grant, MI 49327
07	331	Additional Dealer Info Became Randy Hosler Pontiac on Dixie Highway Jack V. Haupt Pontiac Sales Inc, 7151 N Main St, Clarkston, MI 48016
07	347	Jim Herrin Pontiac, 335 East Main Cross St, Findlay, OH
07	359	Higgins Pontiac Inc., 23225 Woodward Ave, Ferndale, MI 48220
07	361	Red Holman Pontiac, Westland, MI
07	399	Pontiac Motor Division Retail Store, 65 University Dr, Pontiac, MI
07	449	Ray Lathem Pontiac-Buick-GMC
07	455	M L Reams, 3 Castle Dr, Battle Creeek, MI
07	456	Stan Lassen Pontiac-Cadillac, Inc, Battle Creek, MI
07	???	Stan Long Pontiac Inc, 10450 Grand River Ave, Detroit, MI
07	493	Clausey Pontiac, MI
07	525	McDonald Pontiac-Cadillac-GMC Inc., 5155 State RD Saginaw, MI 48603
07	???	McMullen Pontiac, Pontiac, MI
07	596	One Pontiac-Buick, 211 Auglaize, Wapakoneta, OH 45895
07	607	Packer Pontiac, 18650 Livernois, Detroit MI
07	607	Packer Pontiac, 500 South Opdyke Rd, Pontiac, MI 48341
07	631	Pontiac Motor Division Retail Store, 65 Uiversity Dr, Pontiac, MI
07	???	Rafferty Pontiac, Niles, MI 49120
07	672	Additional Dealer Info 1965 located at 25420 Van Dyke, Centerline, MI Rinke Pontiac, 27100 Wan Dyke Ave, Warren, MI
07	675	Roth Pontiac, Cherry St, Toledo, OH
07	679	Royal Pontiac, Royal Oak, MI
07	708	Bob Sellers Pontiac, 22520 Grand River Ave, Detroit MI
07	720	Shelton Buick-Pontiac, 855 S Rochester Rd, Rochester, MI 48307
07	731	Silveus Motor Sales Inc, Jefferson St, Cromwell, IN 46732
07	735	Simpson, Pontiac, Southgate, MI
07	738
07	???	Skinner Pontiac, 68811 South Main St, Richmond, MI 48062
07	767	Stevenson Pontiac, Ludington, MI
07	780	Somerset Pontiac, Troy, MI
07	783	Superior Pontiac-Cadillac, 1717 South Dort Hwy, Flit, MI 48053
07	787	Sweeny Buick-Pontiac, 70 E Chicago St, Coldwater, MI
07	???	Tessier Pontiac-GMC, 16100 Fort St, Southgate, MI 48192\
07	813	Underwood Cheverolet-Pontiac, 105 Brown St, Clinton, MI 49236
07	828
07	850	Porterfield-Wilson Pontiac, Grand River Ave, Detroit, MI
07	???	Wilson Pontiac-Cadillac Inc, 1350 North Woodward, Mirmingham, MI
07	855	Windatt Pontiac, Muskegon Heights, MI
07	859
07	867
07	875	Woody Pontiac Sales, 12140 Joseph Campau, Hammtramck, MI 48212
07	880	Charlie Burk Pontiac Inc, 12740 Gratiot Ave, Detroit, MI 48205

Zone 8 – Cleveland, Ohio (OH)
08	???	Macafee Pontiac, Miamisburg, OH
08	???	Miller Pontiac Cadillac Inc, Fremont, OH
08	024	F.E. Avery Co, 4700 Broad Street, Columbus, OH
08	069
08	103	John Edwards Pontiac (The Edwards Motor Company – now Spitzer Pontiac GMC)
08	117	Don Everett Pontiac, 1904 Cleveland Rd, Sandusky, OH 44870
08	120	Additional Dealer Info Became Bob Morris Pontiac 1978 and then Morris Pontiac Ray Faro Pontiac, Elyria, OH
08	155	Grabski Pontiac Inc, 6872 Broadway Ave, Cleveland, OH 44103
08	167	“something” Pontiac Inc, Columbus, OH 43228
08	189	Jay Pontiac, Bedford, OH
08	197	Additional Dealer Info Home of the “TIN INDIAN” race team Knafel Pontiac Inc, Akron, OH
08	219	Marte Pontiac Inc, 1224 N High Ave, Columbus, OH
08	223
08	231	Additional Dealer Info Changed to Axlerod Pontiac Lou Meliska Pontiac, Brookpark Rd, Parma, OH
08	242	Mikesill-Crosky Motors Inc, 700 Lincoln Ave, Cadiz, OH
08	249	Morrison Cadillac/Pontiac, Zanesville, OH
08	297	Additional Dealer Info Became Roulette Pontiac 1969, Classic Buick Pontiac GMC 1980s and relocated Redman Pontiac in Painesville, OH
08	283	Paradise Pontiac, 8004 Lorain Ave, Cleveland, OH 44102
08	331	Taylor Pontiac GMC Inc, 161 E Main St, Geneva, OH
08	328?	Maple City Auto Co Inc, Market Place, Albion, MI 49224
08	351	Tidball Garage, South Main St, Killbuck, OH 44637
08	354	Trotter Pontiac Inc., Niles OH
08	371	Weidner Pontiac Co, Mansfield, OH
08	387	Waynesburg Buick/Pontiac, Waynesburg, OH
08	391	Howard Wilson, North Lima, OH 44452
08	392	Howard Wilson Pontiac Inc, 7230 Market Street, Youngstown, OH 44512
08	949	Cleveland Avenue, N.W., Canton OH 44702

Zone 9 – Cincinnati, Ohio (OH)
09	???	Buckles Motors, Urbana, OH
09	???	Means Auto Inc, Main St, Ft Wayne, IN
09	???	Don Medow Pontiac Inc, 1900 Lincolnway East, South Bend, IN 46613
09	???	Paintsville Sales & Service (Pontiac Buick GMC), Paintsville, KY (Changed to Con Pontiac ’65)
09	029	Banyas Pontiac-Cadillac, Chillocothe, OH
09	047	Bell Pontiac-Buick Inc., 1385 South Tenth Street, Noblesville IN 46060
09	079	Burnett Pontiac Inc, 8166 Montgomery Rd, Cincinnati, OH 45236
09	099	Chenoweth Motor Co Inc, Xenia, OH
09	100
09	131	Cooke Pontiac Co, Louisville, KY
09	170	Tom Easterly Pontiac-Cadillac Inc, 138 E Main St, Danville, KY 40422
09	177
09	181	Fiehrer Motors Inc, 2531 Dixie Hwy, Hamilton, OH 45015 (old code, see new code 186)
09	182	Bernie Fields Motors, 131 S Main St, Batesville, IN 47006
09	186	Fiehrer Motors Inc, Hamilton, OH (new code, see old code 181)
09	223
09	227	Haas Bros, East Pike St, Jackson Center, OH 45334
09	231	Hageman Pontiac Co, 4114-20 Montgomery Rd, Norwood, OH 45212
09	247	Hanson Motor Co, 1327 N Walnut St, Bloomington, IN
09	249	Hardin Motors, 250 W Dixie Ave, Elizabethtown, KY
09	255	Hedge’s Pontiac Inc, Indianapolis, IN
09	271
09	278	Ralph Hockett Inc, 1302 W Main St, Greenfield, IN 46540
09	289	McAfee Pontiac Inc, Miamisburg, OH 45347
09	373	Codes Based On Following Info: Document Year: 1967 Document Source: Bill History and Window Sticker from PHS Comments: Not sure if the Address. I know this dealer still exists, but it’s a different name and might of moved? Liddie Pontiac Cadillac Inc, Clarksville, IN
09	384	Marsh Pontiac Inc, 9101 Colerain Ave, Cincinnati, OH 45239
09	386	Maher Buick-Pontiac Inc, 1618 Broad St, New Castle IN 47362
09	392	John Lynch Chev-Pont, 941 Milwaukee, Burlington, WS
09	402	Meeks Pontiac-Buick, 636 S Main St, Winchester IN 47394
09	435	Moses Pontiac Sales Inc, Huntington, WV 25719
09	443?	Murphy-Graef Pontiac, Troy, OH
09	455	Nally-Mudd Pontiac, Springfield, KY
09	463	Noll Motors, Inc, 2001 National Rd, Columbus, IN 47201
09	467	Oaklandon Sales Co, Oaklandon, IN
09	475	Paddock Pontiac, N Main St, Dayton, OH
09	483	Pannell Pontiac, Lousia KY
09	503	Parsons Pontiac Sales, 117W Main Cross Street, Edinburg IN 46124
09	505	Passarello-Hurst Pontiac, 505 S Main St Williamstown Ky 41097
09	544
09	545	Russ Regenold Pontiac Inc, 303 Pendleton Ave, Anderson, IN
09	557	Larry Risher Pontiac Inc, Vine & Galbraith Cincinnati, OH 45216
09	562	Larry Risher Pontiac Inc, Springfield, OH
09	589	Schlingman Buick-Pontiac Inc, Piqua, OH
09	625	Ray Steidle Pontiac, Inc., Milford OH
09	639	Charlie Sturgill Motor Co, 129 E High St Lexington KY 40507
09	648	Jake Sweeney Pontiac, Cincinnati, OH
09	672	Troutwine Auto Sales, 9 North Main st, Arcanum, OH 45304
09	693	Dave Waite Pontiac Inc, 5350 N Keystone Ave, Indianapolis, IN 46220
09	696	Codes Based On Following Info: Document Year: 2002 Document Source: Source worked there approx 2002-05 Comments: I was a Mechanic here at Jack Walker Pontiac a few years back. Kyle Jack Walker Pontiac, 8457 Springboro Pike, Miamisburg, OH 45342
09	708	Wells(?) Pontiac, Richmond In 47374

Zone 10 – Chicago, Illinois (IL)
10	???	Virgil Anderson Motor Co, Aledo, IL
10	???	Borg Pontiac Inc, 2300 Ogden Ave, Downer’s Grove, IL
10	???	Finazzo Pontiac Co, West Frankfort, IL
10	???	Gustafson Motors Inc, Park Ave (Rt. 176) & Milwaukee Ave (Rt. 21), Libertyville, IL
10	007	Anthony Auto Sales Inc, 1473 Central Ave, Dubuque, IA 52001
10	014	Bert Adams Pontiac, Joliet, IL
10	017	Batjes Pontiac Inc, 201 S Prairie Street, Elkhart, IN 46514
10	043	Blackhawk Pontiac Sales, Rockford, IL
10	044	Blackhawk Pontiac Sales Inc, 802 W State St, Rockford, IL 61102
10	051	Borek Pontiac, 12215 S Western Ave, Blue Island, IL 60406
10	095
10	110	Coloma Motor Sales, East Center St, Coloma MI 49022
10	111	Coloma Motor Sales, Coloma, MI 49038
10	112	Colonial Motor Sales, Naperville, IL
10	113
10	115	Community Motors Inc, Chicago, IL 60649
10	147	Davis Pontiac Inc, 420 N York St, Elmhurst, IL 60127
10	150	Additional Dealer Info Moved to Zero Boulder Hill Pass, Montgomery, IL 60538 1989 Jim Detzler Pontiac Inc, 23 Washington St, Oswego, IL 60543
10	160	Elizabeth Garage, 201 N Main, Elizabeth, IL 61028
10	163	Peter Epsteen Pontiac, 7501 Lincoln Ave, Skokie, IL
10	177	Wiele Motor Company, PO Box 71, Columbus Junction, IA 52738
10	185
10	195	Bert Adams Pontiac, Joliet, IL
10	197	Greenway Pontiac-Oldsmobile, Inc., Morris IL
10	199	Grossinger Pontiac, Chicago, IL
10	208	Haggerty Pontiac, Villa Park, IL
10	223	Charles R. Hearn Inc, Chicago, IL
10	245	Horst-Zimmerman Inc, 1740 5th Ave, Rock Island, IL 61202
10	247
10	254	C James Inc, 6060 North Western Av, Chicago IL
10	260	Johnson Pontiac Inc, 611 N Second St, Clinton, IA
10	261	Jones Buick-Pontiac, Pontiac, IL
10	268	Key Pontiac Inc, Corner Grand Ave & Church, Elmhurst, IL 60127
10	280	Additional Dealer Info Changed name to Mike Haggerty Pontiac Kole Pontiac, 9301 S Cicero Ave, Oaklawn, IL
10	287	Warren Langwith, Inc, Davenport, IA
10	296	Dick Ludwig Pontiac, 7501 N Lincoln Ave, Skokie, IL 60076
10	299	Lawmaster Pontiac in Plymouth, IN
10	314	Mecum Pontiac-Buick Inc, 801 W Grant Highway, Marengo, IL 60152
10	349	Ken Nelson Buick Pontiac, 1000 N Galena Avenue, Dixon IL 61023
10	367	Ormsby Motors, 50 N Main St, Crystal Lake, IL 60014
10	383	Peoples Pontiac Inc, 6060 N Western, Chicago, IL
10	391	Petersen Pontiac, 1949 St. Johns Ave, Highland Park, IL
10	395	H.L. Pierce Motor Sales Inc, Elgin, IL
10	401	Don Pittman Motors, Inc, 845 Main St, Antioch, IL 60002
10	412	Public Pontiac, 7501 N Lincoln Ave, Skokie, IL 60078
10	421	Ridge Motors Inc, 1533 Des Plaines Ave, Des Plaines, IL 60016
10	424	Right-Way Pontiac, Inc., 160 W. Lincoln Hwy., DeKalb, IL
10	455	Seltzer Pontiac Inc, 5301 West Irving Park Rd 2, Chicago, IL
10	465	Scholl Pontiac Inc, 1101 Chicago Ave, Evanston, IL
10	475	Henry Susk Pontiac, Chicago, IL
10	480	Bill Sullivan Pontiac Inc, Arlington Heights, IL
10	509	Village Pontiac, 601 N Washington St, Naperville, IL
10	512	Hendrickson Pontiac, 5151-5201 Madison St, Chicago, IL
10	513	Waller-Welsh Pontiac Inc, 5601 LaGrange Rd, LaGrange, IL
10	532	Jack Wolfe Pontiac-Cadillac, Belvidere IL
10	634	Browning Motor Service, 785 S. Chestnut, Platteville, WI 53818
10	754	Pioneer Motors, Inc., 1111 Madison Street, Lancaster, WI 53813
10	991	(ship to) Regional Warehouse Pool, Pontiac Zone Office in Illinois. Vehicles shipped there were used for “PR purposes” before being sold through a dealer.

Zone 11 – Milwaukee, Wisconsin (WI)
11	???	Duckler Motors Inc, 1309 S 70th St, West Allis 14, WI
11	032	Badger Pontiac, Milwaukee, WI (Later Foster Pontiac)
11	044	Bauer-Zorn, Inc, 113 East Main St, Whitewater, WI 53190
11	096	Bruenol Pontiac-Buick, Inc, Fairwater-Union, Ripon, WI 54971
11	133	Copper Pontiac-Olds Inc, 532 Division St, Box 223, Stevens Point, WI 54481
11	219	Grogan Motor Sales, Inc. 422 Milwaukee Street, Lomira, WI 53048
11	240	Deising Pontiac, Fond Du Lac, WI
11	250	Jaeger Pontiac Inc, 3636 South 27th St, Milwaukee, WI
11	252	Jenny Pontiac, Janesville WI
11	260	Don Kinas Pontiac, Oakwood & Lisbon Roads, Oconomowoc, WI 53066
11	305	Mackens Pontiac, 139 S Washington St, Green Bay WI
11	313	Public Service Garage, Corner 4th & Washington, Marquette, MI
11	374	Olson-Clason Pontiac, Inc., La Crosse, WI
11	424	Schappe Pontiac, 801 E Washington Ave, Madison, WI 53703 (now Don Miller Pontiac)
11	443	Sommer S Inc, 139 N Main St, Box 27, Thiensville WI 53092
11	463	Swenson & Son Inc, 815 Wisconsin Ave. Boscobel, WI 53805
11	467	Taber Motors, Inc., 105-11 Madison Street, Beaver Dam WI 53916
11	475	Phil Tolkan Pontiac Inc, 2301 W Silver Spring Drive, Milwaukee, WI 53209
11	487	Tusler Motor Co., Inc., 1303 W. Wisconsin Ave., Appleton, WI 54910
11	499	Ernie Von Schledorn Pontiac-Buick, Inc., N88 W15415 Main St., Menomonee Falls, WI 53051

Zone 12 – St. Louis, Missouri (MO)
12	???	Armacost Pontiac, 15th & Baltimore, Kansas City, MO
12	???	Hundley Pontiac Co, 1801 Madison Ave. May have been in Illinois
12	???	Shikles Motor Co, 208 Broadway, Jefferson City, Missouri
12	???	Travis Cadillac-Pontiac, Main St, Peoria, IL
12	002	A&G Motor Sales, 12th Washington, Tell City IN 47586
12	056	Barton Pontiac Inc, 9001 W Florissant Ave, St Louis, MO
12	059	Cochran Pontiac Cadillac, West Plains MO
12	061	Ken Bender Buick Pontiac Inc, 2311 First Capitol Dr, St Charles, MO
12	082	Briggs Motor Sales, 109 W Vincennes St, Linton, IN 47441
12	112	Cape GMC-Pontiac, 755 S Kings HWY, Cape Girardeau MO
12	119	Carmody Pontiac Inc, 622-628 St. Louis Ave, East St Louis, IL
12	137	Carson Pontiac Inc, 10230 Manchester Rd, St Louis, MO 63122
12	138	Central Pontiac-Cadillac Inc, 614 Kings Highway, Rolla, MO 65401
12	260	Lou Fusz Motor Co, 1025 N Lindbergh St, St Louis, MO
12	263	Glenn Pontiac-Cadillac Co, Fifth & Logan, Lincoln, IL 62956
12	283	Hahn Motor Sales, Olney, IL
12	332	Additional Dealer Info Bought in 1991 by S&K Pontiac 1400 S Dirksen Pkwy, Springfield IL 62708 Huber Pontiac Inc
12	381	Kempf Motor Co, 301 W Morrison, Fayette, MO 65248
12	457	Maxon Buick Pontiac Inc, 120 N Commercial St, Branson, MO
12	462	Mcaleer Buick-Pontiac, 115 W North St, Danville IL 61633
12	467	Dave McCormick Pontiac, 1020 Broadway, Quincy, IL 62301
12	506	Montgomery Motor Sales Inc, 288 S Jefferson, Lebanon, MO 65536
12	514	Neely Pontiac, 1955 E Pershing Rd Decatur Il
12	549
12	551	Poland Pontiac-Buick Inc, 600 East Fayette St, Effingham, IL 62401
12	665	Stoyer Motors Inc, 524-32 Avenue G, Ft Madison, IA 52627
12	674	Taggart Motor, 1102 W Main, Shelbyville, IL
12	683	Thompson Sales Co, M-A BOX 1007 S. St, Springfield, MO
12	687	Thoms Pontiac Inc, 5225 Delmar BLVD, St Louis, MO
12	715	Twin City Pontiac Co, Champaign, IL
12	723	Charles E. Vincel Pontiac, 3295 S. Kingshighway, St Louis, MO
12	768	Winkle Inc, Lougoote, IN
12	777	Gene Worn Pontiac Inc, Hwy 61&67, Crystal City, MO

Zone 13 – Kansas City, Missouri (MO)
13	???	Mizell Motor Co, 111 South Second, Norton, KS 67654
13	???	Tommy Young Motor Sales, 503 Broadway, Monett, MO
13	051
13	052?	Buxman Motors Inc, Newton KS
13	103	Emil S Pontiac, 509 Monroe St, Scott City KS 67871
13	121	Finley Pontiac, 1603 Main St Goodland Ks 67715
13	160
13	168	Griffith Motor Co, Neosho, MO
13	234	Bill Kennedy Pontiac, 301 West Helm, Brookfield, MO 64628
13	243	Andy Klein Pontiac, 7801 Metcalf (69 Hwy) Overland Park KS 66204
13	251	Kriegh Motor Co, 107 N Sheridan, Minneapolis KS 67467
13	259	Laner Pontiac Co, 4235 Troost Ave, Kansas City, MO
13	276	Lucas-Fredlake Pontiac, Twelfth & Faraon, St Joseph, MO
13	318	Miller Pontiac Co, Kansas City, MO
13	340	Morganfield-Mc Kenna Pontiac, Inc. 1219 North Washington, Junction City, KS 66441
13	355	D. Hara Motor Co., 104 East 4th Street, Hutchinson KS 67501
13	355	O’Mara Motor Co. 104 E. 4th, Hutchinson KS 67501
13	379	Quality Pontiac-Cadillac Inc, 1040 Vermont, Lawrence, KS 66044
13	397	Roper Pontiac Inc, 921-25 Joplin St, Joplin, MO
13	410	Scholfield Bros Pontiac, 7633 E Kellogg, Wichita, KS 67207
13	435	Dale Sharp Pontiac, Topeka, KS
13	446
13	449	Clare Smith Motors Inc., 2910 W Highway 50, Emporia, KS 66801
13	471	Byron Stout Pontiac, 1214 E Douglas, Wichita, KS 67207
13	490	Koons Pontiac Olds, 7105 Sudley Rd, Manassas, VA
13	514	Frank Waters Pontiac, 7707 State, Kansas City, KS
13	514	(2nd listing) Frank Waters Pontiac, 1212 Minnesota Ave, Kansas City, KS
13	991	Pontiac Motor Division (Zone office), 800 West 47th St, Kansas City MO
13	991	(Regional Warehouse) – The regional warehouse was National Garage at 1104 Mc Gee, Kansas City MO. This appears to be a parking garage where the cars ordered by the KC zone office were delivered and prepped.

Zone 14 – Omaha, Nebraska (NE)
14	???	Mike Gorges Pontiac, 24th and Deer Park Ave, Omaha, NE
14	???	MacKenzie Pontiac up till about 1980
14	???	Additional Dealer Info Became Park Place Pontiac-Cadillac-GMC, Inc. Vanice Pontiac-Cadillac Inc, 1201 Q Street (12th & Q) Lincoln, NE
14	004	Ray Ackley Pontiac, Indianola, IA
14	015
14	095	Carriage Motors Inc, ?th and Stuart, Clarinda, IA 51632
14	109	Christeson Motor Sales Inc, 116 East Second St, Webster City, IA 50595
14	110	Bob Cobb Pontiac, McComb, NE
14	120	Don Danskin Pontiac-Cadillac-GMC, PO Box 595, Marshaltown, IA 50158
14	179	Eymann Implement Co, Forrest City, IA
14	189	Feldman Pontiac, Inc. 800 Commercial St, Waterloo, IA 50701
14	216	General Pontiac, 2401 W Broadway, Council Bluffs IA 51501
14	226	Graf Motors, Inc., Grand Island, NE
14	233	Gregg Motor Co, 214 Capital St, Yankton, SD 57075
14	357	Koopman Pontiac-Cadillac Inc, E on Hwy 18, Sheldon, IA 51207
14	377	Leist Oil Co, Highway 20, Rockwell City, IA
14	421	McGrath Pontiac Inc, 601 2nd Ave SE, Cedar Rapids, IA 52301
14	467	Ethan Myers Garage, Adel, IA
14	497	Stan Olsen Pontiac, 27th Av Omaha NE 68131
14	527	Pews Incorporated, Hwy 75 North, LeMars, IA 51031
14	539	Plainview Farm Equipment Co, Main St, Plainview, NE
14	601	Schultz Bros, Algona, IA
14	603	Sedars Pontiac-Cadillac, 3rd Street & North Federal, Mason City, IA 50401
14	625	Bob Souders Pontiac Inc, 100 West 7th Street, Sioux City, IA 51103
14	647	Summer Pontiac Company, Des Moines, IA
14	671	Vander Ploeg Motor Co, Monroe, IA 50170
14	695	Wagner-Abbott Pontiac Inc, 903 S Riverside Dr, Iowa City, IA 52240

Zone 15 – Minneapolis, Minnesota (MN)
15	???	Holzkamn Pontiac Co, 2nd Ave NW & Main, Hillsboro, ND
15	011	Anderson Buick-Pontiac, 116 5th Ave, South Lewistown, MT
15	014	Henry Anderson Motors Inc, Chippewa Falls, WI 54729
15	019	Anderson Pontiac Co Inc, 625 Center Ave, Moorhead, MN
15	021	C.P. Anderson Pontiac, 5245 Lyndale Ave, Minneapolis, MN 55419
15	047	Arrow Pontiac Co, 1515 University Ave, St Paul, MN
15	083	Beaman Pontiac, Nashville, TN
15	102	R. L. Brookdale Motors Inc, 6801 Brooklyn Blvd, Brooklyn Center, MN
15	123	Carlson Motors, 207 E Hiawatha Dr, Wabasha, MN 55981
15	191	De Vinck Pontiac-Cadillac, 1525 Broadway, Superior WI 54881
15	193	Dibble Pontiac-Buick Inc, PO Box 246, Austin, MN 55912
15	203
15	204	Robert F Dye, Inc, 512 East Main St, Bozeman, MT 59715
15	209	Ede Motor Sales, 203 E Main St, Mondovi, Wl
15	271	Gilbert Motors, 1621 Coulee RD, Hudson, WI 54016
15	282	Goetz Everson Motors, Highway 10 West, Wadena, MN
15	303
15	305	Tropical Pontiac, 2101 N. Main St, Gainesville, FL 32601
15	311	Hanover Garage, Railroad Ave, Albany, MN
15	331	Hansord Pontiac Co, Minneapolis, MN
15	342	Heintz Pontiac-Cadillac, Inc. 130 North 2nd Street, Mankato, MN 56001
15	360	Hornquist Motor Co, 210 South Central Ave, Milaca, MN 56353
15	374	Additional Dealer Info Changed Name to Schwan Pontiac GMC Iten Pontiac GMC, 3812 Memorial HWY, Mandan, ND 58554
15	423	Kater Auto Company, Pine River, MN 56474
15	430	Kindler Pontiac Cadillac, 324 West 9th, Sioux Falls, SD 57102
15	475	Larson-Quinn Company. 405 West Main St, Ellsworth, WI 54011
15	499	Lindner Motors Inc, 208 S Olive, Waconia, MN 55387
15	536	Mahowald Motors, 128-132 W Main St, New Prague, MN 56071
15	559	Mesaba Motors,Inc, 2205 First Ave, Hibbing, MN 55746
15	573	Miller Pontiac-GMC Inc, St Cloud, MN
15	602	Newcomb Motors, 210 Northwest 2nd St, Madison, SD
15	636	Oxendale Pontiac Inc, Rochester, MN
15	675	Reaume, 301 N Main St Lesueur Mn
15	698	Roster Pontiac Inc, 520 E 7th St, Saint Paul, MN 55102 (Became Peterson Pontiac)
15	698	Peterson Pontiac-GMC Inc, 8801 Lyndale Ave So, Bloomington, MN (was Roster Pontiac)
15	726	Schoon Motor Company, Hwy 14 at 11th Ave NW, Rochester, MN 55901
15	739
15	767	Stenzel Motors Inc., 11th St. and E. Hwy. 212, Watertown, SD 57201
15	797	Thorp Auto Co Inc, Britton, SD 57430
15	809	Tretsven Auto Company 507-08N Main St., Milltown, WI 54858
15	813	Tribble Motors Inc, 114 – 6th St West, Brookings, SD
15	815	Twin Falls Pontiac, St Croix Falls, WI
15	833	Ken Vance Motors, 5252 Highway 93, Eau Claire, WI 54701
15	842	West River Motors Inc, Hittinger, ND 58639

Zone 16 – Charlotte, North Carolina (NC)
16	???	Amburn Pontiac, Hillsboro St, Raleigh, NC
16	???	Bob Hill Pontiac, Winston-Salem, NC
16	???	Hughes Motor Co, Burlington, NC
16	???	Payne Truck and Tractor, West Jefferson, NC
16	004	Amburn Pontiac, Raleigh, NC
16	011	Attaway Easterlin Pontiac, Greenville, SC
16	023	Barnes Motors Inc, 218-30 Clay Street, Kingsport TN 37662
16	029	Bill Beck Pontiac Inc, Charlotte, NC
16	035	Bernard Pontiac, Morganton, NC
16	041	Blanchard Pontiac-Cadillac, Shelby, NC
16	050	Boyd Pontiac-Cadillac Hendersonville, NC
16	051	May be somewhere in Raleigh, NC area
16	071	Brown & Wood Inc, Greenville, NC
16	075	Brunson Automobile Sales Inc, PO Box 188, Hampton, SC 29924
16	079	Brushy Mountain Motors, Taylorsville, NC
16	083	Bryan Pontiac-Cadillac Co, 12 W Russell St, Fayetteville, NC 2830
16	085	Bush Oldsmobile-Pontiac, Lenoir, NC
16	091	Caswell Pontiac, Yanceyville, NC
16	092	Cardell Carter Pontiac-Buick, Kannapolis, NC
16	100	City Motors, Valdese, NC
16	108	Don Clark Pontiac-Buick Inc, 1015 Bluefield Ave, Bluefield, WV
16	111	Coggin Pontiac, 4611 Durham-Chapel Hill Blvd, Durham NC 27707
16	156	Tom Duncan Pontiac, Greer, SC
16	192?	Gibbs Pontiac, Princeton WV 24740
16	195	Gill Quick(?), Zebulon NC 27597
16	215	Griffin Motor Co Inc, Monroe, NC 28110
16	233	Hampton Pontiac Inc, 2024 Main St, Columbia, SC 29202
16	238	J.C. Harris Pontiac-Cadillac Inc, Wilson, NC
16	239	Harry’s Cadillac-Pontiac, Ashville, NC
16	251	Herlong Motors- Johnston, SC
16	252	Don Hill Pontiac, Kingsport, TN
16	307
16	338
16	339
16	345	Knox Pontiac-Olds, Lumberton, NC
16	353	Lytle Buick-Pontiac, Gastonia, NC
16	355	Madison Motor Co, 205 Highway St, Madison, NC 27025
16	395
16	399	Wohles Pontiac Buick Inc, 1003 E Main St, Rock Hill, SC 29730
16	403	Morgan Motor Co Inc, 304 East Main St, Albemarle, NC 28001
16	417	Mike Murray Pontiac, Charleston, SC
16	418	Bob Neill Pontiac, Winston Salem, NC
16	419	Neill Pontiac Inc, 902 N Main St, High Point, NC
16	431	Oglesby Pontiac-Buick Inc, 160 North First St, Wytheville, VA 24382
16	464	Quality Pontiac Inc, 1226 Roanoke Ave, Roanoke Rapids, NC
16	502	Rogers Pontiac-Cadillac, 208 W Dixon Blvd, Shelby NC 28150
16	511	Salem Pontiac Inc, PO Box 917, Havelock, NC 28532
16	533	Smith Chevrolet-Pontiac Co., West Main St, Walhalla, SC 29691
16	535	Smith-Mills Pontiac-Buick, Washington, NC
16	539	Smith Motor Co, 229 E Main St Laurens SC
16	583
16	625	Thomas-Woodley Pontiac Inc, 930 S Fayetteville St, Asheboro, NC 27203
16	626	Dan Thomas Pontiac Inc, 930 S Fayetteville St, Asheboro, NC 27203
16	627	Townsend Pontiac-Cadillac, Greenville RD, Easley, SC 29640
16	639
16	647	Wall Pontiac Co., South Main St., Pilot Mountain NC
16	659	Frank Woods, 516-22 S Tyson Charlotte NC
16	665	Zane Pontiac, Greensboro, NC
16	991 992 993 etc.	where cars delivered to the Charlotte Zone office
16	992	Pontiac Division, Charlotte NC

Zone 17 – Jacksonville, Florida (FL)
17	???	Platt Pontiac Inc, 3261 Kings Ave, Jacksonville, FL
17	???	Proctor & Proctor Inc, 216 N Monroe St, Tallahassee, FL 32302
17	022	Backus Cadillac-Pontiac Inc, PO Box 3796, Station B, Savannah, GA
17	028	Bainbridge Motors Inc, 1910 Reid Street, Palatka, FL 32077
17	031	Banta Brothers, St. Augustine, FL
17	043	Sunshine Pontiac, Miami, FL
17	078	Coggin Pontiac Inc, PO Box 8828, Jacksonville, FL 32211
17	080	Colonial Pontiac Inc, 8301 NW 7th Ave, Miami, FL
17	084	Crown Pontiac Inc., 360 9th Street North, St. Petersburg FL 33733
17	110	Jerry Earl Pontiac, 2400 South Federal Hwy, Delray Beach, FL 33344 (Became Jack Nicklaus Pontiac)
17	???	Jack Nicklaus Pontiac, 2400 S Federal Highway, Delray Beach, FL 33444 (Was Jerry Earl Pontiac)
17	131	Al Gallman Pontiac Inc, 3621 S Cleveland Ave, Fort Meyers, FL
17	132	Bill Gallman Pontiac-GMC Inc, 2601 Airport Rd, Naples, FL 33940
17	143	Hallet Pontiac, Miami FL
17	145	Tom Hamilton Pontiac GMC Inc, Cocoa, FL
17	146	Jim Harrell Pontiac, 3800 W Hillsborough Ave, Tampa, FL 33614
17	150	Charles Harris, Clearwater, FL
17	185	Land Pontiac Inc, 833 Volusia Ave, Daytona Beach, FL 32014
17	208	McNamara Pontiac, 1010 W Colonial Dr, Orlando, FL 33802
17	219	Moody Pontiac Inc, 500 N Federal, Ft Lauderdale, FL
17	223	Claude Nowlan Inc, Main & Orange St, Jacksonville, FL 32201
17	231	Packer Pontiac, 665 SW 8th St, Miami, FL
17	240	Platt Pontiac, PO Box 523? Jacksonville, FL 32207 (? = either 9 or 0)
17	241	Pioneer Pontiac Inc, 30501 S Federal Hwy, Homestead, FL 33030
17	257	Roberts Brown Motor Co, Po Box 528, Douglas, GA
17	269	Stephens Pontiac, Daytona Beach, FL
17	279
17	283	Stewart Pontiac Co, 1928 S Dixie Hwy, West Palm Beach, FL
17	291	Stinnett’s Pontiac Service Inc. 240 N. Washington Blvd, Sarasota, FL 33577
17	293	Sunshine Pontiac Inc, 6700 SW 81st St, Miami 43, FL
17	294	Hallett Motors Inc, DBA Sunshine Pontiac, 6701 S Dixie Hwy, Miami, FL 33143
17	296	Stinnet Sales Pontiac Service, 5005 Tamiami Trail, Sarasota, FL 33581
17	298	Superior Pontiac-GMC Inc, 3800 W Hillsbourgh Ave, Tampa, FL 33614
17	294	Hallett Motors Inc, Miami, FL
17	308	R.R. Van Landingham, 901 NE First Ave, Cairo, GA 31728
17	319	Waldron Pontiac, 360 Ninth St North, St Petersburg, FL 33733
17	320	Bill Walker Pontiac-GMC, Inc., Brunswick GA

Zone 18 – Atlanta, Georgia (GA)
18	???	Cecil Corley Motor Co Inc, 235 West Broadway, Gallatin, TN 37066
18	???	Griner Motors Inc, Quitman, GA
18	???	Nicholas Olds Pontiac Buick, Dothan, AL
18	038	Baggett Pontiac, (street unknown), Pell City, AL
18	053
18	062	Benton Pontiac-Buick, Inc., Cleveland, TN 37311
18	071	Boomershine Pontiac, Inc, 390 Spring St NW, Atlanta, GA
18	083	Bradley Pontiac-Chevrolet Inc., 6 Broad Street, Greensboro GA 30642
18	089	Brooks Chevrolet Company P.O. Box 887, Millen GA 30442
18	091	Brownell Pontiac, 2900 Avenue E, Ensley, AL
18	092	Brownell Pontiac Co Inc, 2017 Ensley Ave, Birmingham, AL 35218
18	125	Central Gwinnette Motors Inc, 579 W Crogan St, Lawrenceville, GA 30024
18	172	Cobb-Kirkland Motor Co Inc, Mongomery, AL
18	192	Crawford Pontiac Inc, 204 N Main St, Lafayette, GA 37728
18	210	Davidson Pontiac Buick Inc, 2375 W Broad St, Athens, GA 30601
18	219	Griffith Motors Inc, New Jonesboro Hwy, Johnson City, TN 37602
18	243	Al Dykes Pontiac-Cad Inc, 37 La Grange St, Newnan GA 30263
18	283	W.H. Gailey Pontiac Co, South Cornelia, GA
18	326	Additional Dealer Info Now Harrison Pontiac, 1250 Florence Blvd, Florence, AL 35630 Harrison-White Pontiac, 114 West Reeder St, Florence, AL
18	330	Haynes & Galley Pontiac Inc, Hwy 441 South, Cornelia, GA
18	331	Delmar Haynes Pontiac, Inc., P.O. Box 1396, Maryville TN 37801
18	427	LaFollette Sales Co, LaFollette, TN
18	431	Lamar Pontiac Co, 1690 Riverside Dr, Macon, GA 31208
18	498
18	499	Meadows Motors Inc, 232 W Main St, Manchester, GA 31816
18	534	M L Moore Motors Inc, PO Box 638, Andalusia, AL 36420
18	579	Outlaw Pontiac Co, 319 E College St, Wrightsville, GA 31096
18	600	Parks Motor Sales Inc, Columbia, TN 38402
18	617	Plaza Pontiac Inc, 4241 Lavista Rd, Tucker, GA 30084 (Becae McNamara Pontiac)
18	635	Price Motors Inc, Box 99, Morristown, TN 37814
18	642	(842?) Doug Willey Pontiac, 3500 S 6th Av Birmingham Al
18	679	Rodgers & Co, W. Main St @ Henley St (now on Kingston Pike), Knoxville, TN 37901
18	695	Ryman Pontiac-Cadillac Co., Dalton, Ga
18	705	Shaw Pontiac-Buick Inc, U.S. Highway 72, Athens, AL 35611
18	712	Skinner Motor Co Inc, 3186 Washington St SW, Covington, GA 30209
18	723	Smith-Johnson Pontiac 2191 Main Street, East Point GA 30044
18	727	Smith Waldrop Pontiac-Buick, 104 West Arnold St, Cullman, AL 35055.
18	755	Stone Pontiac-GMC, Centre-Ceder Bluff Hwy, Centre, AL 35960
18	764	Taber Pontiac Inc, 3264 Peachtree Rd, Atlanta, GA
18	775	Trail Pontiac, Mobile, AL
18	777	Trotter Pontiac Co, Chattanooga, TN
18	836	Vince Whibbs Pontiac Co., 3401 Navy Boulevard, Pensacola FL 32501
18	842	Doug Willey Pontiac, Birmingham, AL
18	871	Wynn Motor Company, Dublin, GA 18871
18	922	L&L Buick-Pontiac Co, Broad St, Douglasville, GA 30134
18	991	Pontiac Motor Division, 55 Marietta St NW, Atlanta, GA

Zone 19 – Memphis, Tennessee (TN)
19	030	Benafield Motor Co., England AR
19	044	Big 4 Pontiac-Cadillac, P.O. Drawer 649 Tupelo Ms
19	053	Frank Brasher Buick-Pontiac-GMC, P.O. box 787, Jackson, TN 38302
19	089	Carroll Motors & Equipment Co Inc, Highway 17, Oak Grove, LA 71265
19	191	Douthit-Carroll Pontiac Co, 1011 Union Ave, Memphis, TN
19	237	Fisher Pontiac Inc, 1813 15th Ave, Gulfport, MS 33531
19	352	Tom Hydrick Motors Inc, Forest, MS 39074
19	416	LANE-MOAK Pontiac 912 S. State St, Jackson Miss. 39205
19	418	Long Motor Company, Inc. 407 So. Main St. Farmerville, LA 71241
19	456
19	507
19	517	Overby Pontiac Co, Mayfield, KY
19	528	Paretti Pontiac Company, Inc. 420 North Rampart St., New Orleans, LA 70116
19	600	Rowlin-Adams Buick-Pontiac, Natchez, MS
19	648	Hanks Pontiac, Plaquemine, LA
19	669	Horace-Terry Pontiac Co. 806 W.Capitol, Little Rock, AR 72203
19	731?	Woodson-Smith Pontiac, Baton Rouge, LA
19	732?	Woodson-Smith Pontiac, Baton Rouge, LA
19	996	Slay Motors Inc, 213 South 2nd St, Brookhaven, MS 39601

Zone 20 – Oklahoma City, Oklahoma (OK)
20	???	George Morgan Motors, El Dorado, AR
20	006	Brown Russell, Amarillo, TX
20	076	Terry Pontiac, Little Rock, AR
20	100	Gianera Pontiac, LaCresenta, CA
20	107	Charlesworth Pontiac Co, Highway 71 South, Springdale, AR 72764
20	126	Cline-Burnett Motors Inc, 209 West Moses, Cushing, OK 74023
20	143	Chick Coker Pontiac Inc, 800 N W 4th, Oklahoma City, OK
20	149	Cole-Bynum Motors Inc, Portales, NM
20	153	Dockum Pontiac Inc, 2365 S Robinson, Oklahoma City, OK 73109
20	155	Quinn Connely Pontiac, Lubbock, TX
20	219	Bill Eischeid Pontiac Inc, 514 S. Broadway, Edmond OK 73034
20	228	Ferguson Pontiac-GMC, Norman OK 73069
20	256	Greiner Motor Co Inc, 500 Towson Ave, Fort Smith, AR 72901
20	264	Haley Pontiac-Cadillac Inc, Ponca City, OK 74601
20	284	Champ Hinton Pontiac, 500 Towson Av Ft Smith Ar 72901
20	362	Mathis Chev Pont Olds, Burkburnett TX
20	371	Melton Pontiac, 205 N Missouri, Claremore, OK 74017
20	372	Miber Motor Co, PO Box 846, Miami, OK 74364
20	375	Ernie Miller Pontiac Inc, 701 W Kenosha, Broken Arrow, OK 74012
20	380	Milner Pontiac, 2111 E 11th Street, Tulsa OK 74101
20	381	Bob Milner Pontiac, 1014 Avenue Q, Lubbock, TX 79401
20	399	Nash Bros, 524 Main St, Guymon, OK 73942
20	479	Clair Robbins Inc, 214 S Mekusukey, Wewoka, OK 74886
20	485
20	560	Vaught Chevy-Olds-Pontiac, Quanah, TX
20	991	Pontiac Motor Division, 329 Van Norman Rd, Montebello, CA
20	991	Pontiac Motor Division, 1919 Penn Sq, Oklahoma City, OK 73118
20	992	Pontiac Motor Division, 1919 Penn Sq, Oklahoma City, OK 73115
20	992	Woods Industries, 4900 Santa Fe, Oklahoma City, OK

Zone 21 – Dallas, Texas (TX)
21	???	Elieson Motor Co, Jacksboro, TX
21	???	B&K Pontiac-Buick, PO Box 1055, Killen, TX 76541
21	018	B & K Pontiac-Buick, PO Box 1055, Kileen, TX 76541
21	040	Star Pontiac GMC Truck, Plano, TX
21	059	Brew (or Drew) Pontiac, 206 W. Marshall St, Longview TX
21	081	Joe Carlat Pontiac, Inc., 109 Elm Street, Waxahachie, TX 75165
21	144	R.O. Evans Pontiac GMC, Garland, TX
21	146	Elieson Motor Co, 219 S Main, Jacksboro, TX 76056
21	148	R D Evans Pontiac-GMC, 12100 E Northwest Highway Dallas, TX
21	162	Pete Ganis Pontiac, 2100 Cedear Springs, Dallas, TX
21	176	Ed Hammock Motors, Atlanta, TX
21	217	Leo Jarnagin Pontiac Co, 401 Commerce St, Fort Worth, TX 76102
21	234	Kircher Pontiac Inc, Loop 820, Fort Worth, TX
21	235	Monk King, 200 S Locust Denton Tx
21	247	Luke Pontiac, Arlington, TX
21	281	Bill McDavid Pontiac Inc, 2917 West 7th St, Fort Worth, TX 76107
21	283	David McDavid, 2630 W Irving Blvd, Irving, TX
21	295	Mitchell Pontiac, Kaufman, TX
21	299	Mizell Olds Pontiac Inc, Texarkana, TX 75502
21	305	Musser Motors Inc, 1212 West Moore Ave, Terrel, TX
21	328	Permian Pontiac, Inc. 701 West Texas, Midland, TX 79704
21	364	Schneider-Gilbert Pontiac, El Paso, TX
21	399	Taylor Pontiac, Dallas (Oakcliff) TX
21	423	Van Winkle (Motor Co), Dallas, TX
21	447	Paul Winn Motor Co., Hamilton TX
21	453	Young Motor Co, 316 East Hubbard, Mineral Wells, TX
21	812	Ernie Miller Pontiac GMC, Tulsa OK
21	833	Joe Pistocco Caddy Pontiac, 1008 7th St, Wichita Falls, TX 76301
21	991	Pontiac Division Zone Office

Zone 22 – Houston, Texas (TX)
22	???	White Pontiac, Rosenberg, TX
22	???	Al Welling, Alvin, TX
22	???	Lester Goodson, Houston, TX
22	065	Clyde V. Lee Motors, Clute, TX
22	131	Frizzell Pontiac Inc, 3040 Woodridge Drive, Houston, TX 77032
22	133	Everett Frizell Pontiac, 1014 Lamar, Austin, TX 78703
22	134	Gay Pontiac, Dickinson, TX
22	139	Gay Pontiac, Dickinson, TX
22	147	Gillman Pontiac, Houston, TX
22	151	Gladden Pontiac, Victoria, TX
22	162
22	186	Leo Jarnagin Pontiac, Houston TX
22	188	Leo Jarnagin Pontiac Inc, Houston, TX
22	226	Mahaffey Motor Co, Texas City, TX
22	239	Mid City Motors, Inc., Beaumont TX
22	274	Bert Ogden Motors, 302-304 W University Dr, Edinburg TX 78539
22	281
22	287	Peterson’s Garage, 200-206 Sidney Baker, Kerrville, TX
22	288	Maynard Phillips Motor Co, Sinton, TX
22	301	Quality Pont-Buick-GMC, Bryan, TX
22	365	Wayne Strand Pontiac/GMC Inc, Corpus Christi, TX
22	368	Superior Pontiac Co, 711-23 Broadway, San Antonio, TX 78215 (Now owned by Red McCombs)
22	373	Tindall & Son Pontiac Inc, 3915 San Pedro, San Antonio, TX 78212

Zone 23 – San Francisco, California, (CA)
23	???	Nelson Pontiac, El Monte, CA
23	003	Livingston Pontiac, Woodland Hills, CA
23	009	All American Pontiac, 2103 N 1st St, San Jose, CA 95113
23	015
23	025	Balestra Pontiac, 1039 El Camino Real, Redwood City, CA 94064
23	031	Bianco Motors 4th & E St, San Rafael, CA
23	055
23	058	Art Bridges Pontiac Inc, 1701 Van Ness Ave, San Francisco, CA 94109
23	063	Gianera Pontiac, La Crescenta, CA
23	089	Courtesy Pontiac-GMC, 5000 Chiles Rd Davis Ca
23	093	Cunha Pontiac, 2556 Telegraph Ave, Berkeley, CA 94701
23	098
23	099	Dan Day Pontiac-GMC Inc, 663 Alma St, Palo Alto, CA 94302
23	100	Delta Pontiac, Stockton, CA
23	101	Dexter Pontiac-GMC Inc, San Rafael, CA
23	107	Doten Pontiac, 2556 Telegraph Ave, Berkeley, CA (Became Cunha Pontiac)
23	107	Cunha Pontiac, 4145 Broadway, Oakland, CA (Was Doten Pontiac)
23	108	Doten Pontiac Inc., 4145 Broadway, Oakland CA 94611
23	127	Erickson & James Pontiac-GMC, Yreka CA
23	144	Forehand Motor Sales, Inc., Madera CA
23	160	George Growney Motors, 1140 Main St, Red Bluff, CA 96080
23	173	Bill Hawks Cad-Pontiac, Hawthorne NV
23	195	J.F.G. Motors Inc, 112 E 2nd St, Alturas, CA
23	163	Hansen Pontiac, 640 Main St, Watsonville, CA 95077
23	173	BILL HAWKS CAD-PON, HAWTHORNE NV,
23	189	Larry Hopkins Pontiac, 322 W El Camino Real, Sunnyvale, CA
23	229	Lee Pontiac, PO Box 96, Davis, CA 95616
23	234	Mazzei Pontiac-Cadillac Co., 1530 W 10th Street Antioch CA
23	240	Meridian Motors, 3300 Burnett Ave, Concord, CA 94520
23	247	Millheim Motors, Merced, CA 95341
23	263	Olson Pontiac, Inc., 418 F Street, Marysville CA 95902
23	271	Paradiso Automotive Service, Los Banos CA
23	279	McCoy Auto Co, PO Box 1563, Vancouver, WA 98660
23	295
23	299	Rodgers Buick Pontiac, Corning CA
23	305	Mike Salta Pontiac, 2820 Fulton Ave, Sacremento, CA
23	319
23	345	Stevens Pontiac-GMC Inc, 620 Blossom Hill Rd, Los Gatos, CA 95030
23	350
23	355	Talmadge Babe Wood Co., Santa Rosa, CA
23	363	Herman Theroff Pontiac, Fresno CA
23	386	Wasmuth Pontiac, 663 Alma St, Palo Alto, CA 94302
23	393
23	401	Wilson-Stevens Pontiac GMC, Inc., 620 Blossom Hill Road, Los Gatos CA
23	407
23	423?	Van Winkle Motor Co, 4023 Oak Lawn Ave, Dallas, TX
23	991	PMD San Francisco Zone, Storage Lot at Souther Warehouse Co., 2200 Toland St, San Francisco, CA

Zone 24 – Los Angeles, California (CA)
24	???	Richmond Motor Co, Richmond, CA
24	???	Roy Carver Pontiac, Costa Mesa, CA
24	???	Ron Cutri Pontiac, Firestone Blvd, Southgate, CA
24	???	Kennedy Pontiac, Corona, CA
24	???	Majestic Pontiac, Crenshaw Blvd, Los Angeles, CA
24	010	Jack Barnes Pontiac, Oxnard, CA
24	011	Barber Pontiac, 500 Oak St, Bakersfield, CA 93304 ’67 GTO
24	012	Bill Barry Pontiac 2000 E. First Sreet, Santa Ana, CA 92705
24	014	Bud Beck Pontiac Inc, 7000 E. McDowell Rd, Scottsdale, AZ 85257
24	019	Bruin Motor Co, 10860 Santa Monica Blvd, West Los Angeles, CA (Became Jules Meyers Pontiac ’69)
24	023	Bryant Pontiac, 535 S Citrus, Covina, CA
24	031	Casey-Beckham Pontiac, formerly at 801 S Anaheim Blvd, Anaheim, CA
24	034	(dealer unknown),38 N Albany Ave, Atlantic City, NJ 08401
24	051	Pat Clark Pontiac, Las Vegas, NV
24	054	Coast Pontiac, 626 South Euclid Ave, Fullerton, CA
24	061
24	068	Dolman Pontiac, 4201 W Imperial Hwy, Inglewood, CA 90307
24	074	Donkersley Pontiac-Buick, 276 Orange Ave, Yuma, AZ
24	075	A. E. England, 6161 Hollywood Blvd, Hollywood, CA
24	083	Louis Frahm Pontiac, Inc., 7255 Firestone Blvd., Cowney CA 90241
24	100	Gianera Pontiac, 3333 Foothill Blvd, La Crescenta, CA
24	109	Green-Ross Pontiac, El Centro, CA
24	124	?? in CA
24	133	A.I. Hendrie Buick-Pontiac-GMC, Coolidge AZ
24	138	Codes Based On Following Info: Document Year: 1971 Document Source: Bill History from PHS Comments: John Hine Pontiac, San Diego, CA 92110
24	143
24	159	Jones Bros. & Sons, 534 Santa Clara, Fillmore, CA 93015
24	161	Johonson Olds Cad Pont GMC, 804 1st Ave, Safford, AZ 85546
24	180	Lamerdin Pontiac, Compton, CA
24	183	Linhart Buick – Pontiac Co, 437 North -M- Street, Lompoc, CA
24	185	Bob Longpre Pontiac, Los Angeles, CA
24	186	Bob Longpre Inc., 13600 Beach Blvd Westminster CA
24	188	Livingston Pontiac, Woodland Hills, CA
24	189
24	191	Bob Longpre Pontiac, Inc., Monrovia, CA
24	193	Lukens Pontiac, La Mesa, CA
24	195	Harry Maher Inc, N Hollywood CA
24	197	Majestic Pontiac, 329 Van Norman Rd, Montebello, CA
24	219	Mecham Pontiac, 4510 W Glendale Ave, Glendale, AZ, 85301
24	224	Jules Meyers Pontiac Inc, 10860 Santa Monica Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90025
24	225	Mid-Way Pontiac Co Inc, San Bernardino, CA
24	227	Mission Pontiac Co, 1100 South -E- St, San Bernardino, CA 92410
24	237	Nelson Pontiac, P.O. Box 995, El Monte CA 91714
24	267	Perry Motors, PO Box 637, Bishop, CA
24	270	Quebedeaux Pontiac, 3566 E Speedway, Tucson, AZ
24	271	Tom Ray Pontiac, Brand Blvd, Glendale, CA
24	282	Bob Ruehman, North Hollywood, CA
24	286	Scott Robinson Pontiac, Inc. 20340 Hawthorne Blvd, Torrance, CA 90503
24	287	Rothe Pontiac, CA
24	290	Royal Pontiac, 1245 Lankershim Blvd, North Hollywood, CA
24	291	Salta Pontiac, Long Beach, CA
24	293	Savage Pontiac Co, Monrovia, CA
24	310	Stallings Motor, 1316 N Broad St Globe Az
24	314	Sun Pontiac Inc, 1600 W Main St, Mesa, AZ 85201
24	316	Suburban Pontiac, 17639 Bellflower Blvd, Bellflower, CA 90706
24	319	Tate Motors, Pomona, CA
24	321	Superior Pontiac Inc, Monterey Park, CA
24	322	Swope Pontiac Buick GMC, 280 E. Ramsey, Banning CA 92220
24	329	Don Turpin Pontiac, PO Box 1167, Redlands, CA 92373
24	331	Ulrich Pontiac, 10101 Washington Blvd, Culver City, CA
24	335
24	339	Peninsula Pontiac, 2909 Pacific Coast Highway, Torrence, CA 90505
24	340
24	345	Webster Pontiac, 2601 National Avenue, National City California 92050
24	348?	Westward Pontiac, 4635 N Seventh St, Phoenix, AZ 85014
24	349	Jim White Pontiac 1908 Santa Monica Blvd, Santa Monica, CA 90404
24	351	Wilkins Pontiac, Van Nuys Blvd, Van Nuys, CA (Became Prestige Pontiac ’70s)
24	367	Roc Cutri Pontiac, 3125 Firestone Blvd, South Gate, CA 90280
24	560	Van Nuys, CA area
24	819	Meacham Pontiac, Glendale, AZ
24	991	Pontiac Motor Division (S.Calif. Zone)

Zone 25 – Portland, Oregon (OR)
25	026	Betz Chev Pont Olds Co Inc, Cottage Grove, OR 97424
25	056	Mel Campbell Chevrolet-Pontiac-Olds, Dallas, OR
25	063	Central Pontiac Inc, Broadway & East Pine, Seattle, WA 98122
25	064	Century Pontiac Inc, 10075 SW Canyon Rd, Beaverton, OR 97005
25	094	Courtesy Chevrolet Pontiac Inc. 300 W. Spruce, Newport, WA 99156
25	105	East Side Pontiac Co, 400-116th Ave NE, Bellevue, WA
25	142	Jack Grant Motors Inc, PO Box 98, Bainbridge Island, WA 98110
25	143	Graves-Anderson, 10 N Colville St, Walla-Walla, WA 99362
25	184	Horner Pontiac, Grandview WA 98930
25	215	K & J Pontiac, Davenport, WA
25	243	Dick Lewis Pontiac-Cadillac Inc, Plum & Union, Olympia, WA
25	276	Jim Marsh Pontiac Inc, 11th and Tennant Way, Longview, WA 98632
25	279	McCoy Auto Co, PO Box 1563, Vancouver, WA 98660
25	282	McKee Pontiac Inc, 1404 Main St, Oregon City, OR 97045
25	287	B Meadows Pontiac, 2705 NE Sandy Blvd, Portland, OR
25	289	Bud Meadows Pontiac, Inc., 4724 Roosevelt Way, Seattle, WA 98105
25	289	Bud Meadows Pontiac, Inc., 12800 Aurora Ave. North, Seattle, Wash
25	295	Menasco Motors, Grants Pass, OR
25	299	Mills Motor Co, Junction City, OR
25	321	Murray Newell Inc, Gresham OR
25	325	Utter Motor Co, W. 1219 Second Ave, Spokane, WA 99204
25	327
25	343
25	362	Red Ralls Pontiac-Cadillac-GMC, 812 N Wenatchee Ave, Wenatchee, WA 98801
25	374	Robideaux Motors Co, 1603 Sherman Ave, Coeur d’Alene, ID 83814
25	379	Roseburg Motor Co, Roseburg, OR 97470
25	399	Simpson Pontiac-Cadillac Inc, 3002 Rucker Ave, Everett, WA 98201
25	433	Totem Pontiac, Seattle, WA
25	455	Utter Motor Co, W. 1219 Second Ave, Spokane, WA 99204
25	457	Valley Pontiac-Buick-GMC, 3104 Auburn Way, Auburn, WA
25	461	Walker-Marson Pontiac Inc, Yakima, WA

Zone 26 – there is no headquarters listed for zone 26
26	289	Bud Meadows Pontiac, 2300 Aurora Ave, N. Seattle, WA
26	468	Valley Pontiac – Buick – GMC, Auburn WA 98002

Zone 27 – Denver, Colorado (CO)
27	???	Socorro Motors, Socorro NM
27	???	Victors Motors, Brigham City, UT
27	031	Baum Motor Co, 335 N Main, Logan, UT
27	075	Fred A. Canleson Pontiac, 535 S Main St Salt Lake City Ut
27	104	John Chris Motors, Twin Falls, ID
27	127	Collier-Ponsford, 2971 North Ave, Grand Junction, CO
27	???	Nick Davidson Inc, 1604 N Lincoln, PO Box 148, Loveland, CO 80537
27	153	Dreiling Motors 230 SC College St, Fort Collins, CO 80521
27	156	Eddie S Chevrolet-Pontiac, Inc., Deadwood, SD
27	159	Eley Motor Co, Park City, UT
27	187	Fisher Hess Pontiac, Ogden UT
27	212	Harmon Sales Inc, Provo, UT
27	217	Hart Pontiac-Cadillac, Idaho Falls ID
27	231
27	235	Johnson Pontiac, Colorado Springs, CO
27	236	Steve Johnson Pontiac-GMC-Jeep, 1250 S Nevada, Colorado Springs, CO 80901
27	259	Ketchum Auto & Garage Co, 201 Main St, Ketchum, ID
27	275	Kramer Motors Inc, 17th & B, Scotsbluff, NE 69361
27	276	Kyle Motors, Mountain Hope, ID
27	311
27	315	Laury Miller Pontiac, Salt Lake City, UT 84115
27	317	Laury Miller Pontiac, 3535 South State St, Salt Lake City, UT 84115
27	332	Nagel Motors Inc, 944 E. A Street, Casper, WY 82601
27	354	Pansing Pontiac, Inc., 5500 South Broadway, Littleton CO 80121
27	361	Leo Payne Pontiac Inc, Lakewood, CO
27	378	Porter Pontiac Inc, 945 Broadway, Denver, CO 80203
27	382	Price-Carleson Pontiac, Salt Lake City, UT
27	387	Quality Pontiac, PO Box 531, Albuquerque, NM 87101
27	396
27	440	Seifert Pontiac Inc, 6300 East Colfax Ave, Denver, CO
27	462	Sparks-Payne Pontiac Inc, Lakewood, CO
27	471	Stoker Motor Co, 44 East 1st North, Tooele, UT 84074
27	483
27	487	Taylor Pontiac Buick Co., Cheyenne, WY
27	499	Vondenkamp Pontiac, 638 Main St, Longmont, CO
27	519	Weld County Garage Inc, 810 10th St, Greeley, CO 80631
27	545	Owen Wright Inc, 570 N Main, Layton, UT
27	993	Collingwood Pontiac, Greybull, WY
27	994	PMD, 50 West Broadway, Salt Lake City, UT

Zone 28 – There is no zone 28 listed

Zone 29 – Newark, New Jersey (NJ)
29	???	Maozek Auto Sales Inc, Linden, NJ
29	007
29	016	Banner Pontiac, 217 W Washington Ave, Washington, NJ
29	031	Blauvelt Pontiac Co, Montclair, NJ 07042
29	035	Broad St. Pontiac, Princeton, NJ
29	039	Burnweit Pontiac, Main St & Midland Ave, Nyack, NY 10960
29	042	Carami Pontiac, Paramus, NJ
29	045	Cerami Pontiac Corp, 21 N Maple Ave, Ridgewood, NJ 07450
29	046	Chief Pontiac, Rt 46, Little Falls, NJ
29	047	City Motor Sales Co Inc, Passaic, NJ
29	061	Day Pontiac, 138 Orange Ave, Suffern, NY 10901
29	063
29	066	Dietzen Pontiac Cadillac, 151 Court St, Binghampton, NY 13901
29	087	Eldridge Pontiac, Princeton, NJ
29	095	Ray Forshay Inc, Long Branch NJ
29	119	Ideal Pontiac-Buick, Newton, NJ
29	120	K-Mack Pontiac Inc, 297–305 Kinderkamack Rd, Oradell, NJ 07649
29	123	Khan Motors Inc, 54 S Dean St, Englewood, NJ 07631
29	141
29	155
29	158	Lonstein Motors, Ellenville NY
29	163	Mallon Suburban Motors, Irvington, NJ
29	167	Mallon Surburban Motors, Irvington, NJ
29	136	Kemper Pontiac Cadillac Inc, 300 Finderne Ave, Somerville, NJ 08876
29	136?	Reydel Pontiac, Edison, NJ
29	139	Walter Kollmar Pontiac, Highstown, NJ
29	143	Kramer Pontiac, South Orange, NJ
29	146	Ralph Lamorte, 1128 Springfield Ave, Irvington, NJ 07111
29	155	New Jersey
29	176	Maxon Pontiac Inc, Route 22 West, Edison, NJ
29	183	Miller Pontiac, Rahway, NJ
29	191	Monsey Garage, 114 RT 59, Monsey, NY 10952
29	203	Mrozek Auto Sales, Linden NJ
29	204	Mrozek Auto Sales Inc, Linden, NJ
29	219	Don Owen Inc, 2301 East Main St, Endwell, NY 13760
29	239	Queen City Pontiac, Greebrook, NJ
29	247	Rassas Pontiac, near the train tracks, Route 35, Red Bank, NJ
29	260	Regal Pontiac Ltd, 1220 Bloomfield Ave, West Caldwell, NJ 07006
29	263	Reiman Pontiac, 1000 Market St, Paterson, NJ 07513
29	271	Reydel Pontiac, Route 1, Edison, NJ
29	272	Reydel Pontiac, Edison NJ
29	273	Kingston, NY
29	291	Royal Pontiac/Oldsmobile, Butler, NJ
29	332	Thorpe’s Pontiac, Tannersville, NY
29	361	W & S Motors, West New York, NJ

Zone 35 – Michigan (MI) – PMD Special Zones
35	929
35	997	Pontiac Motor Division Engineering
35	998

Zones – Not Defined
37	207	Lonstein Motors, Ellenville, NY
38	001	Canadian Export Office

Zone 40 – Export Zone
40	001	Stacks-Holden, Australia
40	006
40	204	Mercer Auto Storage, Bronx, NY
40	220
40	222
40	223
40	225	Kapiolani Motors Ltd, 1341 Kapiolani Blvd, Honolulu, Hawaii 96814
40	239	Military base exchange through GM Overseas Operations.
40	259	Kapiolani Motors, Honolulu, Hawaii

Zones – Not Defined
42	050	Don Boyer Chevrolet-Pontiac Inc, 1281 West Pioneer, Oak Harbor, WA
42	445	O.M. Foxworthy Inc, Lafayette, IN
50	012	Hurst Research, 24175 Telegraph Rr, Southfield, MI
60	206	AC Spark Plug Division – GMC, Flint MI
72	397	Hawkiins Pontiac, Auburn, WA

Zone 79 – Export Zones
79	001	GM Overseas Distributors, 767 Fifth Ave, New York, NY
79	015
79	256	GM Overseas Distributors, 767 Fifth Ave, NY, NY

Zone 81-96 – Canada (CA)
81	001	Additional Dealer Info This is a Canada Dealer, changed Zone 01 to 81 in 1967. John McGowan Motors Ltd., Trans-Canada Highway, Abbotsford, BC, CA
81	012	Maloney Pontiac Buick, Caslegar, BC
81	013	Buchanan Pontiac-Buick, Chilliwack, BC
81	015	Arthur & Chant Motors, Campbell River BC
81	074	Additional Dealer Info This is a Canada Dealer, changed Zone 01 to 81 in 1967. Trapp Motors Ltd., 834 Carnarvon Street (at 8th Street), New Westminster, BC, CA
81	075	Bob Brown Pontiac Buick, Penticton, BC
81	118	Bowell McLean Motor Co, Vancouver BC
81	123	Additional Dealer Info This is a Canada Dealer, changed Zone 01 to 81 in 1967. Bill Conroy Ltd., 680 Marine Drive (at Taylor Way), West Vancouver, BC, CA
81	127	Additional Dealer Info This is a Canada Dealer, changed Zone 01 to 81 in 1967. Jim Pattison Ltd., 3434 Main St. (at 18th Ave.), Vancouver, BC, CA
81	128	Additional Dealer Info This is a Canada Dealer, changed Zone 01 to 81 in 1967. Carter Pontiac-Buick Ltd., 5799 West Boulevard, Vancouver, BC, CA
81	137	Additional Dealer Info This is a Canada Dealer, changed Zone 01 to 81 in 1967. Empress Motors, 900 Fort Street (at Quadra Street), Victoria, BC, CA
86	388
86	579	Giles Bedard Ltee, Levis Quebec
88	934	Antonio Labbé Pontiac Buick, Vallée-Jonction, Quebec, Canada
95	442	Marvin Starr Pontiac Buick, Scarborough Ontario Canada
95	516	Addison On Bay Pontiac, Toronto Ontario Canada
95	577	Gus Brown Motors LMT, 1201 Dundas Street East, Whitby On Canada
??	???	Harvey Motor Sales Pembroke Ltd., 294-8 Mackay St, Pembroke, Ontario 96300
??	???	Slessor Motors, 91 Yonge Street N, Newmarket, Ontario

Zone 99 – PMD Special Zone
99	998	Pontiac Motors Racing Division

A: The Dealer Zone Codes can be found on the following documentation:

• Window Sticker

• Billing History

• Broadcast Sheet

• Protecto Plate

A: Pontiac produced numerous builds for Zone Stock, cars that were shipped to Storage Lots within each Zone for subsequent sale to a retail Dealer on a first come, first served basis. These cars sat unused for days, weeks, even months before purchase by a Dealer. Not to be confused with Company Cars that also came thru the Zone but were used by Zone employees and later sold at steep discount to a Dealer. These Zone Storage Lots were always identified by a “99*” code as the “Dealer No.”. There were likely multiple locations in each Zone.

Q: Duplicate Dealer Codes

Is it possible for a dealer name to have two codes?

A: It is possible to have one dealer name with two codes. A dealer’s code can change even if there has not been a name change. This occurs when the dealer principal named on paragraph three of the franchise agreement changes.

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Q: Fisher Body Sequence Number

My body tag has 111 to the left of the build date code (05C) on the top line. What does this code mean?

A: The three digit codes in this location are most likely Fisher Body Sequence Number (for production).

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Q: Rally II Wheel Codes

Does someone know the correct codes for Rally Rims? Specifically, I heard there was a different code for rims on drum versus disc.

A: Check out the Classic Pontiac Server web site: http://www.pontiacserver.com/wheels.html It is a fairly comprehensive page dedicated to pontiac rims and codes. Another site with good information about all the codes on a rim: http://www.wallaceracing.com/rally-wheel-date-code.htm

A: Parts book published in 1971 says 1967 used JA for disc and JC for drums 68 was JC for all. Try and figure this one out. All the parts for disc were the same for 1967 and 1968 so what made the difference I don’t know. A-body was just as confusing.

The 1968 Rally II had the wheel rim code on outside of the rim just next to the valve stem (see picture below):

For the 1968 Rally II, there were codes on the inside of the rim (flat part that connects both outside and inside of rim) which included the date code, plant code, inner wheel code (JJ), and size (14 x 6).

Key Words: Ralley II, Rally II, Rallye II, Wheel Codes, Rim Date Codes

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Q: Date Codes

While comparing the date code on my 1967 engine to the Fisher Body Tag, the dates are about three weeks apart. Should I be concerned my engine is not original even though it has the correct engine code (matches docs)?

A: As for date coding, the general rule of thumb for drivetrain components compared to Body Assy Date is anywhere from 2 weeks to 3 months. I’ve seen documented cases where some components were the week before Body Build and as distant as 3 months for things like an alternator. Generally, 6 weeks is the usual maximum. Keep in mind that there are no absolutes when it comes to date coding. Inventory Control 30 years ago was not like it is today. Most people will say that NEVER should a drivetrain component be dated AFTER the Body Build Date however, “never say never”. There have been special cases where the entire engine assy had a casting date after the Body Build Date. This could have been the result of production shortages and/or special build orders.

Also, remember that the Fisher Body Build Date on the firewall Trim Tag is not the final assy date. This Month & Week Code denotes the week that the body shell was assembled at Fisher Body. Again, in special cases, the body shell might have been pulled or put aside from the regular production flow due to a special order or part shortages. The Final Assy Date can be found on the Billing History. Listed as the “Invoice Date”, this is when the car left the final assembly line and was ‘certified’ to be shipped (bought-off). Once again, there could have been factors that delayed this date from being assigned to the vehicle or shipped. Part shortages, mis-builds, repairs would delay buy-off.

Your Firebird body shell was scheduled and assembled during the 4th week of October 1967 (23rd – 27th). This was the basic painted shell with glass, carpet, headliner, seats, some trim. From there,. it was transferred to the Final Assy Plant (Lordstown, OH) for Final Assy. This is where the front fenders, hood, bumpers, trim and drivetrain were installed. The Invoice Date on your Billing History would tell you when the car left Final Assy. The “WK” Engine Block you have (I177) was cast on Oct. 17th 1967. From there it was sent to the Engine Assy Plant and then to the vehicle Final Assy Plant where additional components were added to it before being installed to the vehicle. One could estimate that if it was cast on the 17th (Tues.) then it was probably not assembled until the 20th or 23rd. Figure another couple of days until it arrived at Lordstown for Final Assy into the car. In this hypothetical scenario, there is a chance that this particular engine COULD have been installed into a Body built during the 4th week of Oct. 1967. Variables would be how long it sat at the foundry, shipping time, scheduling and routing through selectivity banks, etc.

Often times, lower production vehicles were built according to a batch order. This would result in many of that particular model, color, engine being routed through production within the same week or period of time. This explains the Body Unit Number found on the Trim Tag and special in-plant codes found on the corner of the Trim Tag (usually found on Van Nuys or Norwood cars in late 1968 or 1969).

Hope this helped. As always, this information is from various sources and research others or myself have done. Exceptions usually DO exist to every rule.

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Q: Billing History Codes

I just received my Billing History from PHS. How do they equate the codes on the Billing History to the other sheet which itemizes it.

A: The numbers on the Billing History you refer to are the Sales Codes which are broken down into groups (34 -thru- 80). Within each group, there are specific options. Depending on which options you have on your car, the last digit in the Sales Code will vary.

Example: 34 is the group for Engine Options. If you have a Ram Air Firebird, the complete code would be 347. If it is a Sprint, 341.

If you have more than one option in a group, the sales code for that group is determined by adding the specific option numbers together.

Example: Group 52 includes Disc Brakes and the Custom Shifter Knob. If you have just Disc Brakes, the Sales Code would be 521. If you have the Disc Brakes and the Custom Shifter Knob, it would be 525.

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Q: Ralley II Wheel Code

Does someone know the correct codes for Rally Rims? Specifically, I heard there was a different code for rims on drum versus disc.

A: Check out the following WEB site by Richard Rauch:

Rich’s Pontiac Server http://pontiacserver.com/wheels.html

It is a fairly comprehensive page dedicated to pontiac rims and codes.

A: Parts book published in 1971 says 1967 used JA for disc and JC for drums 68 was JC for all. Try and figure this one out. All the parts for disc were the same for 1967 and 1968 so what made the difference I don’t know. A-body was just as confusing. I have several sets of JA and JC wheels so I m going to measure the offset of both. You can post this info if you want to.

A: The correct Rally II wheels for 1968 Firebirds with Disc Brakes is “JC”. References: 1968 Service Manual, 1968 Parts Book, Broadcast Sheet ((I’ve also verified this and several original, unrestored 1968’s)). At some point, someone started this (JA in 1968) ‘technical error’ while refering to the 1967-1968 GTO and 1967 Firebird.

A: Still dont have a clear idea of why 67s used two different RallyII wheels, one for drums the other for discs. Want to remind everyone that the code is at the valve stem not inside the rim. Ive seen some stamped with JC inside the rim and have a different code at the valve stem.

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Q: Rally II Wheel Fit

Seems I got a pair for 1968 +/-, and a pair from the early 70’s, when GM made the holes smaller. Am I up a creek or is there some way to get caps that match for these things. HELP!!

A: There’s a lot more to Rally II wheels than the responses have indicated. There were probably 30 or 40 varieties of this wheel, likely a half-dozen in just the 14×6 size! The ONLY way to know what you have is check the 2-letter code on the wheel next to the valve stem, and post it here for us to help you. There were also some numbers stamped near the valve, but these were date codes. The larger center hole is a non-issue (the caps will fit), but you need to make sure of wheel offsets. Some later 14×6 wheels were used on Ventura II’s, the Nova body clone of 71-74 including the last year of the GTO. They have different offsets than the correct wheels for your car. Even in 1968 alone, there was the JC code for Firebirds, and a JA code for Tempest/LeMans/GTO. The later 71-74 wheels were coded something with N or M as the second letter, I can’t remember if there was an HN/HM or something else. I know there were HF wheels I have that are 15×7 with a 4-3/4″ bolt pattern used on the A and G body cars from 73-77. Speaking of 15 inch wheels, there were also 15×6 and 15×7 for full-sized cars with a 5 inch wheel stud pattern! I even know of 4 different 14×7 wheels with different sized center holes that all have the same offset, from the JK code for 1969 Firebird and Grand Prix, JM for 70 same cars except Trans Am, JS for 71 and KS for 72. The 70 Trans Am had a special wheel, looked like a center section from a 14 inch wheel, with a deep-dropped center 15 inch rim, that would not accept any trim rings (Olds did something similar in 75 that had a ring that would retro-fit).

A: Thanks for response. I went and checked, I’ll give you the codes both inside and out. Here goes; one wheel has JC outside and JJ inside. The next has KT out and JK in. Then, JA out and JK in. The last has HN out and JK in. Now as for offsets, if I remember correctly, the offset is measured on the inside of the rim, from the inside edge down to the bolt holes. I checked this with a straight edge across the inside rim, then measured down to the holes vertically. After checking this, I found 2 of the rims measured 4 inches and the other 2 measured 4 1/4 inches. Man what a mess this is turning into. Didn’t have clue as to how many variations there were. If I measured correctly, how do I know if I can use them or not, now that I know that the caps will fit? Or do I have to go to the car, pull a rim, and measure the drum? All I’m sure of is that the drums are stock.

A: Guys, I would suggest we all get on the SAME PAGE!!! The code NEXT to the VALVE STEM is the one the parts book uses! The code on the INSIDE is the RIM type, but the one OUTSIDE is the WHEEL CODE for the ENTIRE WHEEL assembly!! That means the RIM, the CENTER and the OFFSET! Please stick with the WHEEL CODE on the outside, and ignore the RIM type!

A: Yup, Rally wheels seem so simple at first.

But that 1/4″ width isn’t really a big deal.

About the only time you need to worry about brake clearance is with disk brakes, and even then many of the 14″ variants clear those.

You are safe with backspacing varying from 4″ to 4.5″, as long as you don’t go crazy with tire sizes. And since these are only 14×6, you are limited there anyway to nothing much wider than a 225/60-14. That tire, on that wheel, should fit your car. A 215/60-14 might fit the wheel a bit better, and that will definately not have clearance problems with your car, even with that rear sag you mentioned earlier, but may appear a bit short. Going to a 70 series would get you taller tires, that might fit that narrow wheel better.

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