Not sure if Cliff got a suspension or not. But he went off site just as/or right after it was removed. Didnt even get into it with anyone that i noticed. Started a thread about get'n jumped on another forum when he responded to an engine build or some'tn. Said he doesnt go there, but someone asked him to respond. If its the site think it is, try to stay away myself. Had very personal PM's about my stolen parts and money. Next thing others know. It wasnt the other persons on PM's as we where try'n to flush the thief/thiefs out.