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Well its just another day in paradise trying to put the car back together. Here is the latest issue I am dealing with on the 69. I found out the car had a cobbled Non-tilt column. Purchased a quality rebuilt Tilt column as a replacement. When the column was installed it was determined that the ignition switch for the non-tilt was different than the tilt ignition switch. My question is, Where do I go and what do I need to adapt the current non tilt plug/harness to a tilt plug/harness.


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I remember going through the same thing when I switched to a tilt column in my '69. The "new" column came with a Camaro switch that didn't match with the Firebird's wiring harness.I couldn't just swap the switches because there is a difference between tilt and non tilt units.One is a push to engage and the other is a pull to engage. IIRC the switch can be changed somehow to go either way but I can't remember how it is done. As with so many other things i've done to my car, I didn't take any pictures thinking nobody cares what I'm doing here in my garage.
I realize this is probably not a whole lot of help.


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Originally Posted By Hank350
I remember going through the same thing when I switched to a tilt column in my '69. The "new" column came with a Camaro switch that didn't match with the Firebird's wiring harness.I couldn't just swap the switches because there is a difference between tilt and non tilt units.One is a push to engage and the other is a pull to engage. IIRC the switch can be changed somehow to go either way but I can't remember how it is done. As with so many other things i've done to my car, I didn't take any pictures thinking nobody cares what I'm doing here in my garage.
I realize this is probably not a whole lot of help.


First: Thanks for responding. Second: Although not specific , you offer a glimmer of hope which is very important Third: what does IIRC stand for in you post.


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Originally Posted By Hank350
IIRC the switch can be changed somehow to go either way but I can't remember how it is done. As with so many other things i've done to my car, I didn't take any pictures thinking nobody cares what I'm doing here in my garage.
I realize this is probably not a whole lot of help.


DOES ANYONE HAVE AN IDEA HOW TO DO THIS> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Originally Posted By JimmytheGreek
Third: what does IIRC stand for in you post.


If I recall correctly.

(Thanks Bjorn! grin )

Sorry, but I can't help with the rest. frown


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Originally Posted By 68tpls400
Originally Posted By JimmytheGreek
Third: what does IIRC stand for in you post.


If I recall correctly.

(Thanks Bjorn! grin )

Sorry, but I can't help with the rest. frown



Thanks Bjorn! Learn something everyday....


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Originally Posted By JimmytheGreek
Originally Posted By 68tpls400
Originally Posted By JimmytheGreek
Third: what does IIRC stand for in you post.


If I recall correctly.

(Thanks Bjorn! grin )

Sorry, but I can't help with the rest. frown



Thanks Bjorn! Learn something everyday....


good...as my step dad always said :" a day you didnt learn something new, was a wasted day"


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Ok after 24hrs of frantic research here is what I have found with regard to Firebird ignition switch info.

1. 1969 - 197? share a common switch body for a tilt column
2. Pontiac uses a different ignition switch than that of a Camaro
3. A 69 dash wire harness plug fits both non-tilt and tilt columns
4. To utilize a tilt column, you have to have the specific Pontiac tilt column ignition switch.


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It seems to me that the switch can be turned 180 degrees in the mounting bracket (that mounts it to the steering column) to change it from push to pull. I know that I modified my existing switch to work with a tilt column. The only differance in the two is that one gets pushed with the rod from the key and the other gets pulled.


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You need the green switch that has the part # ending with 093.That switch fits all 69-70 Pontiacs with tilt except 70 Firebirds.When installed the plastic fittings that the wires are in will have to be twisted half a turn to fit into the new switch if changing non-tilt to a tilt.This switch is usually about $50.00 if bought new,not all venders have it but it is still availible.


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Sorry Thread highjack warning!!!!!''

I gotta know. - Andy S. your sig says 1969 R/A IV T/A. Do you have one of the 55 R/A IV Trans Ams? Is it one of the 9 rare automatics? That would be WAYYYY COOL !!!

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It's one of the 46 4 speed cars.I still need to find a set of original 1969 exhaust manifolds for it.I have 1968 R/A II's on it right now.


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That is awsome!! Any pics? Good luck on the exhaust manifold search.

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Wow, that is all I can say.


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