|
|
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,220
Senior Member
|
|
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,220 |
Has anyone here installed the rear speaker enclosure? I have a few questions for some that has.
The repop does not match my bottom holes at all. So I'm a little confused with the bottom lip. Does it turn up and under or turn out from the enclosure.
If the bottom lip turns up under the enclosure, that would mean that the bottom screws would have to go in first, then install the speaker on the enclosure and then install the top screws. Bottom screws not seen.
If the bottom lip turns out from under, the speaker can be installed and then attach the enclosure. Bottom screw can be seen.
Here are a couple pictures. Does anyone have a clue?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,337 Likes: 3
Premium Member
|
|
Premium Member
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,337 Likes: 3 |
Based on the metal originals I found (out of a '68 "Maro)  I'd say the lip goes down. Sorry, I wasn't about to put a cardboard frame back there. Here are some picts I took:
I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure. I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe. 1968 400 convertible (Scarlet) 1976 T/A - 455 LE (No Burt) 1976 T/A New baby, starting full restoration. 1968 350 - 4 speed 'vert - 400 clone (the Beast!) 1968 350 convertible - Wife's car now- 400 clone (Aleutian Blue) (Blue Angel) 2008 Durango - DD 2008 GXP - New one from NH is AWESOME! 2017 Durango Citadel - Modern is nice! HEMI is amazing! 1998 Silverado Z71 - Father-daughter project 1968 400 coupe - R/A clone (Blue Pearl) (sold) 1967 326 convertible - Sold  1980 T/A SE Bandit - Sold
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,337 Likes: 3
Premium Member
|
|
Premium Member
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,337 Likes: 3 |
And yes, they are 100% worthless in a 'vert with the top down.
I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure. I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe. 1968 400 convertible (Scarlet) 1976 T/A - 455 LE (No Burt) 1976 T/A New baby, starting full restoration. 1968 350 - 4 speed 'vert - 400 clone (the Beast!) 1968 350 convertible - Wife's car now- 400 clone (Aleutian Blue) (Blue Angel) 2008 Durango - DD 2008 GXP - New one from NH is AWESOME! 2017 Durango Citadel - Modern is nice! HEMI is amazing! 1998 Silverado Z71 - Father-daughter project 1968 400 coupe - R/A clone (Blue Pearl) (sold) 1967 326 convertible - Sold  1980 T/A SE Bandit - Sold
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,480
Member
|
|
Member
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,480 |
MAN I would sure like to have couple pairs of those metal enclosures.
I would think a person could make some money if he had some dimensions and a metal brake.
Is that made to fit a typical 6x9 speaker or is an oddball size?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,363
Premium Member
|
|
Premium Member
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,363 |
I made some out of 3/8 plywood that attach without drilling any holes. Plus they allow the use of newer speakers and yet will use the old grills. I will try to take a picture. The cardboard ones to me were useless. BTW if anyone wants a free pair of the cardboard ones, pay for shipping and they are yours.
Larry 1967 Sprint Convertible
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,337 Likes: 3
Premium Member
|
|
Premium Member
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,337 Likes: 3 |
Stock, 6x9 rear speaker.
But could be made to any size.
I think I made patterns before I installed it. I will have to dig.
I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure. I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe. 1968 400 convertible (Scarlet) 1976 T/A - 455 LE (No Burt) 1976 T/A New baby, starting full restoration. 1968 350 - 4 speed 'vert - 400 clone (the Beast!) 1968 350 convertible - Wife's car now- 400 clone (Aleutian Blue) (Blue Angel) 2008 Durango - DD 2008 GXP - New one from NH is AWESOME! 2017 Durango Citadel - Modern is nice! HEMI is amazing! 1998 Silverado Z71 - Father-daughter project 1968 400 coupe - R/A clone (Blue Pearl) (sold) 1967 326 convertible - Sold  1980 T/A SE Bandit - Sold
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,220
Senior Member
|
|
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,220 |
Based on the metal originals I found (out of a '68 "Maro)  I'd say the lip goes down. Sorry, I wasn't about to put a cardboard frame back there. Here are some picts I took: Hey I thought you were all about originality? What happen?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,337 Likes: 3
Premium Member
|
|
Premium Member
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,337 Likes: 3 |
Quality happened... No way I was going to put cardboard back there. I can't believe Pontiac did that back then. These cars were built for 10 year life cycles. Look how well that worked out... 
I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure. I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe. 1968 400 convertible (Scarlet) 1976 T/A - 455 LE (No Burt) 1976 T/A New baby, starting full restoration. 1968 350 - 4 speed 'vert - 400 clone (the Beast!) 1968 350 convertible - Wife's car now- 400 clone (Aleutian Blue) (Blue Angel) 2008 Durango - DD 2008 GXP - New one from NH is AWESOME! 2017 Durango Citadel - Modern is nice! HEMI is amazing! 1998 Silverado Z71 - Father-daughter project 1968 400 coupe - R/A clone (Blue Pearl) (sold) 1967 326 convertible - Sold  1980 T/A SE Bandit - Sold
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,220
Senior Member
|
|
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,220 |
I hear you. Those metal ones you found, those were not original in the Camaros were they? Were they home made ones. I know a guy the has a computer ran plasma cutter. He could make a boxes easy I think. I'll email him with a pic and see.
So the first two photos of the cardboard ones. It looks like the bottom is turned out. I take those were repro ones?
Studying this picture it appears it is turned under doesn't? I should be getting the speaker any time now and maybe I'll be able to tell when I have a speaker to work with. It may be to awkward to install with the lip turned back under it.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,337 Likes: 3
Premium Member
|
|
Premium Member
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,337 Likes: 3 |
I studied those same diagrams until my face was blue, and nothing lined up or made sense.
I lined up the metal housing, and the eixisting bolt holes were really close!
But the housing sits a few inches below the top lip of the seatback frame, not like those diagrams show.
I would agree the bottom lip in the sketch seems to be pointing 'up'.
The pictures of the paper housing were ones I found on the web somewhere. They were not from my car.
I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure. I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe. 1968 400 convertible (Scarlet) 1976 T/A - 455 LE (No Burt) 1976 T/A New baby, starting full restoration. 1968 350 - 4 speed 'vert - 400 clone (the Beast!) 1968 350 convertible - Wife's car now- 400 clone (Aleutian Blue) (Blue Angel) 2008 Durango - DD 2008 GXP - New one from NH is AWESOME! 2017 Durango Citadel - Modern is nice! HEMI is amazing! 1998 Silverado Z71 - Father-daughter project 1968 400 coupe - R/A clone (Blue Pearl) (sold) 1967 326 convertible - Sold  1980 T/A SE Bandit - Sold
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,758
FGF Premium Member
|
|
FGF Premium Member
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,758 |
Here is a pic from my 67 book. Hope that helps...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,337 Likes: 3
Premium Member
|
|
Premium Member
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,337 Likes: 3 |
Interesting pict Gus. What book is that out of? It has been confirmed that '67-'68 'birds could only come with one rear speaker as an option as the power level of the stock radio would only power two speakers total.
That's also why the woring diagrams only show one rear speaker.
There was a huge debate about this on PY about a year ago when I was researching for my 4 speed.
I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure. I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe. 1968 400 convertible (Scarlet) 1976 T/A - 455 LE (No Burt) 1976 T/A New baby, starting full restoration. 1968 350 - 4 speed 'vert - 400 clone (the Beast!) 1968 350 convertible - Wife's car now- 400 clone (Aleutian Blue) (Blue Angel) 2008 Durango - DD 2008 GXP - New one from NH is AWESOME! 2017 Durango Citadel - Modern is nice! HEMI is amazing! 1998 Silverado Z71 - Father-daughter project 1968 400 coupe - R/A clone (Blue Pearl) (sold) 1967 326 convertible - Sold  1980 T/A SE Bandit - Sold
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,758
FGF Premium Member
|
|
FGF Premium Member
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,758 |
I have a 1967 Firebird Service Manual Canada version. Guess the Canadian birds had 2 speakers.
Engine Test Stand Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwoxyUwptUcdqEb-o2ArqyiUaHW0G_C88restoring my 1968 Firebird 400 HO convertible (Firedawg) 1965 Pontiac Catalina Safari Wagon 389 TriPower (Catwagon) 1999 JD AWS LX Lawn tractor 17hp (my daily driver) 2006 Sequoia 2017 Murano (wife's car) 202? Electric car 203? 68 Firebird /w electric engine 2007 Bayliner 175 runabout /w 3.0L Mercuiser__________________________________________________________
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 78
Member
|
|
Member
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 78 |
Any Idea Where to purchase a replacement speaker for the enclosure? Size? Does it need to be a Narrower profile?
The various catalogs have no idea....I have a 68 Conv.
TY
Lee
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 78
Member
|
|
Member
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 78 |
Harold,
Your posting shows the type of enclosure I am trying to locate? any idea where...As I wrote the ones online don't reflect this. My convertible has a fixed rear seat if that matters.
Thank You Again,
Lee
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,015
Premium Member
|
|
Premium Member
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,015 |
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,220
Senior Member
|
|
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,220 |
Harold,
Your posting shows the type of enclosure I am trying to locate? any idea where...As I wrote the ones online don't reflect this. My convertible has a fixed rear seat if that matters.
Thank You Again,
Lee I cannot track down any more like that. Npd did have them but I looks like they are no longer available.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 78
Member
|
|
Member
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 78 |
Thank You Again. Much Appreciated.
Lee
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 78
Member
|
|
Member
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 78 |
Thank You....The search continues.
Lee
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,220
Senior Member
|
|
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,220 |
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 520
Member
|
|
Member
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 520 |
Look at Ames Performance, Performance Years, Year One, Classic Industries, just to name a few
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics35,534
Posts298,850
Members8,862
| |
Most Online19,810 Feb 1st, 2026
|
|
|
0 members (),
2,192
guests, and
74
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
There are no members with birthdays on this day. |
|
|
|